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Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 18/01/2018, 10:07

Contest #1 - Tour Down Harder (Category 2)

Sorry for the bad joke of words in the title, but the Contest #1 consists exactly into that.

Finally, Tour Down Under organization decide to improve the route drawing a route that suits better the climbers like Quintana but is also balanced to permit to compete also to time triallist like Dumoulin.

You are called to redesign Tour Down Under making an harder and better route. You have to keep the format of a six day World Tour race with an end in one of the biggest city of South Australia. You can choose for the finish one between Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra and Sidney. Of course, you have to insert a time trial in the route.

Deadline will be on saturday, February 10, h 23.59 Rome time.

You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 5 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.

Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus

Good luck anyone

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Please ALL use a "Tour de France" style. Choose the one you want between the TDF Family (Tour, Nice, Liege, Roubaix etc) but the important is that everyone uses the same style so will be easier to compare the races between users

You can also add your climbs in the presentation in the topic.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by nat63 » 26/01/2018, 19:10

Hi guys !!! I would like to take part in this contest clap
But I've just one question about my route :

Is this type of road ok ? (it doesn't seem too dirty, but just a little bit to make the race more interesting)

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 27/01/2018, 12:11

nat63 wrote:
26/01/2018, 19:10
Hi guys !!! I would like to take part in this contest clap
But I've just one question about my route :

Is this type of road ok ? (it doesn't seem too dirty, but just a little bit to make the race more interesting)

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yes, this type of road is ok
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 27/01/2018, 12:11

lorenzo.ciconte wrote:
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My Tour Down Harder presentation (with images this time ) Part 1
Stage 1 Canberra ------------------> Moruya
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Stage 1 presents 50 km of dirt roads that end 7 km before the finish line in Moruya, turns and rompepiernas climbs are featured also in this section, definitely a stage for riders like Sagan, Trentin and local hero Matthews
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by nat63 » 27/01/2018, 14:40

emmea90 wrote:
27/01/2018, 12:11
nat63 wrote:
26/01/2018, 19:10
Hi guys !!! I would like to take part in this contest clap
But I've just one question about my route :

Is this type of road ok ? (it doesn't seem too dirty, but just a little bit to make the race more interesting)

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yes, this type of road is ok
Thank you ! Im gonna present my route soon siinc

Climbers will adore, and there will be almost 30 km of dirty roads R&R !!

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Post by pesallu » 27/01/2018, 22:35

TOUR DOWN HARDER by Pesallu

Running from Sunday January 14th to Fridayy January 19th 2018, the Tour Down Harder will be made up of 6 stages and will cover a total distance of 921 kilometres.

[*] 1 Flat stage
[*] 2 hilly stages and one altitude finish in Black Mountain
[*] 2 high mountain stages with 2 altitude finish Lake Mountain, Falls Creek
[*] 1 individual time-trial 13,5 km

The Tour Down Harder will include a total of 14 mountain climbs or hills and altitude finishes ranked in fourth (4), third ( 2) , second (4) and first (4).

THE ROUTE

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The race will go through Victoria and New South Wales. The starting point is Phillip Island, near Melbourne, and the finishing point is Canberra, the Capital of Australia

Grand Départ
The MotoGP circuit Phillip Island

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Stage 1: Phillip Island > Phillip Island ITT

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This Tour Down Under starts with a bang! The starting point is the astonishing Phillip Island Moto GP Circuit. The cyclists will take three laps to the circuit (13 km). The distance is long enough to create some gaps but it's short enough so that the GC is not decided.

Favourites: Tom Dumoulin, Geraint Thomas, Tony Martin

Stage 2: Inverloch > Bairnsdale

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First flat stage where sprinters will be have the leading role.

Favourites: Kittel, Gaviria, Demare

Stage 3: Traralgon > Healesville

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First test for climbers to reduce the gap over the time trial specialists. The race includes two major climbs, the last one is a 1st category climb, just before a fast descent to the finishing line. Those with downhill skills will obviously take advantage of the profile.

Favourites: V.Nibali, A. Valverde, R. Bardet

Last Climb:
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Stage 4: Yarra Valley > Lake Mountain

Lake Mountain Ski Station
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High mountain stage with the first uphill summit finishing in Lake Mountain, one of the most famous slki resorts near Melbourne. The final climb is 20 km long with percentages above 10%, so it will be plenty of action.

Favourites: C. Froome, R. Bardet, V. Nibali

Summit Finish:
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Stage 5: Mansfield > Falls Creek
Falls Creek Ski Resort:
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Last serious test in the race before tomorrow's stage in Canberra. The stage finihes in Falls Creek, 1st category climb. But before that, the peloton will have to ride across 200 km of hot plains which will dwindle the main favourites strenghts.

Favourites: C.Froome, V. Nibali, R. Bardet

Summit Finish:
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Stage 6: Canberra > Canberra. Black Mountain

The site of Canberra was selected for the location of the nation's capital in 1908 as a compromise between rivals Sydney and Melbourne, Australia's two largest cities. It is unusual among Australian cities, being an entirely planned city outside of any state, similar to Washington, D.C. in the United States.
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Aereal views from the finish line in Black Mountain, Canberra:
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It looks the typical final celebration dull stage, but it's not. This tour will end in Black Mountain, Canberra. It's a 2nd category climb with 3 km long but the percentages are over 9% so it is ideal for puncheurs

Favourites: A. Valverde, J. Alaphilippe, M. Matthews

Last climb:
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Thanks for your attention and see you in the forum!

Full info on: maps/tours/view/8186

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Paganini » 28/01/2018, 15:32

Updated my race in:
post29326.html#p29326

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 29/01/2018, 0:19

Rmax85 wrote:
25/01/2018, 15:52
Hello,

I present you my Tour Down Harder

6 stages
915 km
1 High mountain stage
2 Hill stages
2 flat stages
1 ITT (30.4 km)

Stage 1 : Canberra > Cootamundra (169 km).
A real stage for sprinters

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Stage 2 : Junee > Bethanga Historic Area (182.5 km)
The first occasion for punchers

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Stage 3 : Albury > Shepparton Mooroopna (182 km)
The second and last chance for the sprinters

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Stage 4 : Euroa > Woodend (173 km)
The first real occasion for GC pretenders

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Stage 5 : Craigieburn > Mount Donna Buang (176 km)
The firework stage

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Stage 6 : Port Melbourne > Melbourne (30 km)
The final ITT

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Rmax85 » 29/01/2018, 19:20

emmea90 wrote:
29/01/2018, 0:19
Rmax85 wrote:
25/01/2018, 15:52
I present you my Tour Down Harder [...]
Link is missing
Sorry I didn't know
maps/tours/view/8125
It's good now

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Post by pesallu » 31/01/2018, 19:36

TOUR DOWN HARDER V2 by Pesallu

Running from Sunday January 14th to Friday January 19th 2018, the Tour Down Harder will be made up of 6 stages and will cover a total distance of 913 kilometres.

2 Flat stages
1 hilly stage
2 high mountain stages with 2 altitude finish Ben Lomond Ski (6 km gravel road), Mount Buffalo
1 individual time-trial 21 km (Mount Wellington)

The Tour Down Harder will include a total of 23 mountain climbs or hills and altitude finishes ranked in fourth (9), third ( 7) , second (4), first (2) and Hors Categorie (1).

Full data on: maps/tours/view/8222

THE ROUTE

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The race will go through Tasmania and Victoria. The starting point is George Town, in the north of Tasmania, and the finishing point is Albert Park (Melbourne), the Capital of Victoria State.

Grand Départ
Tasmania Island

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Stage 1: George Town > Launceston. Tasmania
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The stage is mostly hilly. The lasts 30 km include three minor climbs which it will eliminate pure sprinters. Matthews, Gerrans or Sagan are the men to watch. It`s a tribute stage for Richie Porte, who was born in Launceston.

Final climb in Launceston:
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Stage 2: Launceston > Ben Lomond Ski

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Tasmania's premier Alpine skiing operations are located at Ben Lomond with downhill skiing facilities in the State. Jacob's Ladder (zig-zag road to Ben Lomond Ski Station) has been made notorious as the steep training ground for Tour de France cyclist Richie Porte and is featured as a cycling destination in itself.

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First chance for climbers to create gaps in the GC over time trialists before next time trial in Hobart. The final 6 km are gravel roads similar to Colle delle Finestre. The final climb is quite irregular with several rest km following hard slopes sectors
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Stage 3: Campbell Town > Glenorchy

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Hilly stage across the center of Tasmania. The second half of the stage goes parallel to the sea so crosswinds could be as decisive as high mouintain stages

Stage 4: Hobart > Mount Wellington ITT

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Ok, it's not a long flat time-trial, but it's still a time trial! Top favourites should have TT skills as well as mountain skills in order to climb this colossus, Mount Wellington, the only HC climb of the race

Quick transfer to Victoria State
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Stage 5: Omeo > Mount Buffalo. Cresta Valley
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After the Time trial there is a last chance to change the GC in Mount Buffalo, Victoria. It's a 1st category climb without high percentages but it's 25 km long.
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Stage 6: Mansfield > Melbourne GP Circuit

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Fine, the leader of the race shouldn't take any risks this fast stage in Melbourne avoiding crashes. The race ends in Albert Park F1 circuit in Melbourne, so the stage favourites should be sprinters

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Alfa » 03/02/2018, 11:01

Hello, here is my tour down harder: maps/tours/view/8295

Stage 1 : Canberra - Canberra (ITT - 12,1 km)
Prologue in the streets of Canberra.
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Stage 2 : : Canberra - Nowra-Bomaderry (Plain - 190,8 km)
First opportunity for sprinters in this Tour Down Harder.
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Stage 3 : Nowra-Bomaderry - Majors Creek (Mountain - 206,0 km)
This stage is a real opportunity for climbers to get back time that they lost in TT.
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Stage 4: Majors Creek - Colinton (Hilly - 166,7 km)
Flat stage with a very hard climb at the end. A stage for punchers.
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Stage 5 : Tumbarumba - Mount Stanley (Mountain - 197,3 km)
Most important stage. The last climb is very hard with 22% at some spots and dirt at the top.
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Stage 6 : Canberra - Canberra (Adelaide Avenue) (Plain - 108,0 km)
My TDH ends with a stage with 6 laps in Canberra. This stage starts and ends at Adelaide Avenue.
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Dennis1107 » 03/02/2018, 14:48

My route: maps/tours/view/8132

The next edition of Tour Down Under is preparing for a big change, the new route will take place along the east coast of the New South Wales in Australia. The race will highlight the tourist beauties of the ocean coasts, starting from the seaside locality of Port Macquarie and arriving at the capital Canberra, passing through Sydney.
The route will be composed by 2 Sprint Stage, 2 Hills Stage, 1 Mountains Stage and 1 Individual Time Trial.
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Stage 1 (Flat) - Port Macquarie > Blueys Beach
The first stage of the Tour Down Under will be a day dedicated to sprinters; it will start from the tourist resort of Port Macquarie to arrive to the magnificent coasts of Blueys Beach passing through tourist spots like Forster.
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Departure road of Port Macquarie

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Forster

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Blueys Beach



Stage 2 (ITT) - Fingal Bay > Nelson Bay
The second day will be that of the Port Stephens Council’s Individual Time Trial, 18 kilometers between the coasts of Fingal Bay and Nelson Bay.
This will be a great opportunity for cronoman to gain some time margin on the pure climbers.
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Port Stephens (Red sign is Fingal Bay)



Stage 3 (Flat) - Newcastle > Sydney
The third stage will be the last chance of victory for the sprinters; the departure will take place in Newcastle and it will proceed along the coast until to three easy GPM that will precede the arrival in the center of Sydney.
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Stage 4 (Hill) - Sydney > Port Kembla
The fourth stage will start again from the north Sydney area in a southerly direction towards the seaside resort of Port Kembla. This day will be the first opportunity to animate the race with the two final ascents (Bulli Pass and Mount Keira) to precede the arrive.
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Sydney - Pyrmont Bay

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Port Kembla



Stage 5 (Mountain) - Wollongong > Cambewarra Lookout
The fifth day will be that of the mountain stage; 160 kilometers that will bring the group from the Wollongong coast to the top finish of Cambewarra Lookout.
In the first part will be overcome the difficult Macquarie Pass but the last 35 kilometers will be decisive with the climbs of Woodhill, Berry Mountain and Cambewarra Lookout.
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Wollongong

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View from Cambewarra Lookout



Stage 6 (Hill) - Nowra > Canberra - Black Mountain
No final parade, the last stage will be fundamental for the general classification of Tour Down Under with the finish on top the Black Mountain in Canberra. The last day will also be the longest with 200 kilometers of racing away from Nowra to the Australian capital.
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Nowra

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Night view from Black Mountain to center of Canberra

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Anthofou31 » 03/02/2018, 14:53

Hi
This is my second Tour Down Harder. It's very Hard with Arrivals in Climb 4 times

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by taaramae_crack » 03/02/2018, 16:36

Here is my first proposal for this contest, hope you like it:

Route: maps/tours/view/8191


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The Tour Down Under organization decided to move the race from Adelaide to Canberra, the capital city of Australia, and maybe, one of the most unknown cities of the country, but maybe one of the nicest too, all surrounded by nature, water and mountains.
Another advantage will be that in Canberra, temperatures aren't usually as high as in Adelaide, so stages can be a bit longer (having in account that we are still in January).
About the course, it will include for the first tima a timetrial and a high mountain stage, which will finish nothing less than in Mount Kosciuszko, the highest mountain of the whole country. The other key point of the race will be the climb to the Telstra Tower, a short but hard climb in the middle of Canberra, very similar to Willunga Hill, but with the inconvenient of having just one side, that means, only one pass, but enough for making some differences. But before those two hard stages, the race will have to complete another two nervous stages through the coast, one of them wih a dirt road and an interesting climb a few kilometers before the end. A circuit through the streets of Canberra will complete the menu and decide the race.




Stage 1 (ITT): Canberra (Parliament House) - Canberra (National Museum)


An ITT for opening this new Tour Down Under. Almost 23 km. that will open the first gaps between the favourites. The course will pass by some of the most important places of the Australian capital city, such as the Parliament House (both the new one and the old one), the City Hill Park, the Government House or the National Museum, where this finish line will be laced.

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New Parliament House:

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National Museum of Australia:

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Stage 2: Queanbeyan - Batemans Bay


Second stage, where the race will move to the coast. A "flat but not flat" stage with little hills through all the course, especially in the last part, where Dunns Creek Road will be the last pitfall right before a pressumable massive sprint between the fast guys that survived to all the complicated terrain.

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Batemans Bay:

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Stage 3: Moruya - Bega


The next stage will stay in the coast, and will be the first test for the GC men, with an up and down terrain all over the course, remembering somehow the Ardennes, that will fatigue and prepair their legs for the last climb, the Dr. George Mountain, with 8 km and not very steep ramps, but with a difficulty added, the dirt, not only in the ascent, but also in the descent, so skillful riders will have a good oportunity to surprise their rivals. If no one is able to arrive alone to the finish line, a slightly (and not that much in the last meters) uphill sprint will decide the stage winner.

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Bega:

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Stage 4: Bemboka - Mount Kosciuszko - Charlotte Pass


After the first test between the favourites, here comes the queen stage of this new Tour Down Under, with a mountain finish on the Charlotte Pass, just in front of Australia's highest mountain, the Mount Kosciuszko. The stage will start with the tough climb of the Glenbog Pass, where the breakaway should be created. Then, an easy terrain will carry the riders, first, to the steep climb of the Range Jindabyne an then, to the namesake city, where the best climbers should start taking positions, because the decissive climb will start just a few kilometers later. 32 km of climbing, divided in two, the 1st categorised Dainers Gap, where the purest climbers will need to open distance with their rivals, because they won't probably be able to do it in the final climb to Charlotte Pass, that suits much better to rouleurs and puncheurs; so far attacks must be done if someone wants to gain time against the people that made well the initial TT,

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Charlotte Pass:

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View of Mount Kosciuszko:

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Stage 5: Cooma - Canberra-Telstra Tower


Fifth and possibly, decissive stage, with a stage in the purest Vuelta a España style, with an easy (maybe not that much) profile until the last 3 km. where awaits the climb to the Black Mountain, in the middle of Canberra, with 8,8% of average slope. That means the same length, but harder slopes that the mythical Willunga Hill. Will be Richie Porte able to exhibit in the same way as in there?

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Telstra Tower:

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Stage 6: Canberra Circuit


The race will finish, as it always did in the past, with a circuit, but this time, instead of the flat and boring one of Adelaide, it will include a little hill (1 km. at 4,7%), that won't probably open any gap between the GC men, but can be de scenary of some later attacks searching the stage victory, giving an extra excitement to the race and opportunities to riders that in a massive sprint have any chances to do a good result.

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Australian War Memorial:

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ANZAC Parade:

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by c_vass99 » 03/02/2018, 21:32

Any kind of TT?

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 04/02/2018, 0:08

c_vass99 wrote:
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Any kind of TT?
Time Trial isn't forbidden.

Finally, Tour Down Under organization decide to improve the route drawing a route that suits better the climbers like Quintana but is also balanced to permit to compete also to time triallist like Dumoulin.
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by mike4296 » 05/02/2018, 17:17

So here I am, taking advantage of this lazy rainy afternoon to show you my route.

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A few points before going into the details of the stages:
1) The Tour Down Under has always been held around one city (Adelaide), so I tried to draw a route which has a precise geographical collocation (in the specific, the area of Victoria around Melbourne).
2) Other peculiarity of the Aussie race consists in short kilometers: I don't like that; however i decided to present two routes, re-drawing my original route, with normal kilometers, in a "light" version, with shorter kilometers. No changes in stage localities (except for the start of Mount Donna Buang stage from Seymour to Alexandra) and no significant changes in climbs, only shorter stages. So if you think that this contest should have kept the shorter classic kilometers, vote my second route; if not, vote the first one.

STAGE 1: GEELONG - GREENSBOROUGH, 178.3/147.3 km
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KOMs: Forest Hill (4° Categoria, 152 m, 1.0 Km al 5.1%, Km 63.1), Flat Rock Road (4° Categoria, 183 m, 2.6 Km al 4.1%, Km 144.8), Pigeon Bank Road (4° Categoria, 125 m, 0.9 Km al 7.9%, Km 156.1), Warrandyte (3° Categoria, 167 m, 1.9 Km al 6.8%, Km 162.3).
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short version
KOMs: GPM: Bulla Hill (4° Categoria, 146 m, 1.0 Km al 4.9%, Km 92.2), Yarrambat Hill (4° Categoria, 152 m, 0.9 Km al 5.2%, Km 122.3), Wattle Glen (4° Categoria, 120 m, 1.1 Km al 5.7%, Km 133.1).

First stage with a tricky hilly final, suitable for complete sprinters such as Matthews and Sagan as well as puncheurs like Gilbert. However, there are no relevant climbs, so all the GC contenders should stay in the lead group.

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The starting line will be placed in Geelong, the second largest victorian city.

STAGE 2: HURSTBRIDGE - MOUNT MACEDON, 160.2/125.9 km
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KOMs: Arthurs Creek (4° Categoria, 197 m, 1.4 Km al 5.3%, Km 11.7), Mount Gisborne (4° Categoria, 572 m, 1.7 Km al 5.0%, Km 87.8), Cherokee Road (3° Categoria, 720 m, 6.6 Km al 3.9%, Km 120.5), Macedon Pass (1° Categoria, 932 m, 5.9 Km al 7.8%, Km 139.5), Mount Macedon (2° Categoria, 998 m, 7.8 Km al 4.8%, Arrivo).
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KOMs: Arthurs Creek (4° Categoria, 190 m, 1.2 Km al 5.6%, Km 11.5), Cherokee Road (3° Categoria, 738 m, 8.4 Km al 3.6%, Km 87.6), Macedon Pass (1° Categoria, 932 m, 5.9 Km al 7.8%, Km 105.2), Mount Macedon (2° Categoria, 994 m, 8.6 Km al 4.5%, Arrivo).

The Macedon Regional Park will host the first hard stage of the Aussie race. The race will become interesting on the last two climbs: the hard Macedon Pass and the final climb to the Mount Macedon, which consists in 4,5 km of hard slopes and the last 3 km of false flat.

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The Mount Macedon Memorial Cross, established in 1935 by William Cameron, an early resident of the town of Mount Macedon, as a memorial to his son and others who had died in World War I...
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...an autumnial view of the final straight. Ain't that bad, is it?

STAGE 3: MACEDON - BROADFORD, 185.3/128.9 km
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KOMs: Spring Hil (3° Categoria, 662 m, 2.1 Km al 6.3%, Km 27.8), Baynton East (4° Categoria, 546 m, 1.1 Km al 5.2%, Km 88.9).
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KOMs: Baynton East (4° Categoria, 546 m, 1.6 Km al 5.1%, Km 67.6).

With no doubt the easiest stage, sprinters will try to get the victory in Broadford.

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The race will go through the north part of Victoria, with rural landscapes like this.

STAGE 4: SEYMOUR - MOUNT DONNA BUANG, 175.9/144.1 km
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KOMs: Marysville-Woods Point Rd/1 (1° Categoria, 1025 m, 9.2 Km al 6.5%, Km 112.1), Marysville-Woods Point Rd/2 (4° Categoria, 1092 m, 1.8 Km al 7.3%, Km 116.4), Mount Donna Buang (1° Categoria, 1065 m, 13.9 Km al 6.5%, Arrivo).
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KOMs: Marysville-Woods Point Rd/1 (1° Categoria, 1025 m, 10.2 Km al 6.1%, Km 80.4), Marysville-Woods Point Rd/2 (4° Categoria, 1088 m, 2.8 Km al 4.3%, Km 84.7), Mount Donna Buang (1° Categoria, 1064 m, 13.9 Km al 6.5%, Arrivo).

The queen stage, despite not being the stage with the highest difference. Two 1st category climbs, but everything should be decided on the slopes of Mount Donna Buang: almost 14 kms at 6,5%, even though the first 8 kms are much more difficult than the last ones.

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People in Mount Donna Buang are very welcoming.

STAGE 5: WARBURTON - HEATHMONT, 214.5/157.3 km
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KOMs: GPM: Gembrook Launching Pr Rd (3° Categoria, 313 m, 2.9 Km al 5.2%, Km 20.6), A'Beckett Rd (4° Categoria, 171 m, 2.1 Km al 4.5%, Km 95.0), Cockatoo Hill (3° Categoria, 344 m, 1.9 Km al 8.5%, Km 128.0), Kallista (3° Categoria, 423 m, 2.6 Km al 6.1%, Km 147.1), Ferny Creek (2° Categoria, 472 m, 2.5 Km al 10.4%, Km 155.2), One Three Hill (2° Categoria, 535 m, 4.5 Km al 7.1%, Km 162.9), Olinda/1 (2° Categoria, 558 m, 6.7 Km al 5.8%, Km 180.6), Olinda/2 (2° Categoria, 549 m, 4.8 Km al 6.3%, Km 192.8), Kalorama (4° Categoria, 513 m, 1.2 Km al 5.5%, Km 198.4).
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KOMs: GPM: Gembrook Launching Pr Rd (3° Categoria, 304 m, 2.6 Km al 5.3%, Km 20.5), Cockatoo Hill (3° Categoria, 349 m, 2.4 Km al 6.6%, Km 47.2), Patch Hill (4° Categoria, 287 m, 1.3 Km al 6.2%, Km 82.5), Kallista (3° Categoria, 426 m, 2.5 Km al 6.6%, Km 89.6), Ferny Creek (2° Categoria, 471 m, 2.9 Km al 8.5%, Km 97.5), One Three Hill (2° Categoria, 538 m, 4.8 Km al 6.8%, Km 105.3), Olinda/1 (2° Categoria, 560 m, 6.8 Km al 5.8%, Km 123.0), Olinda/2 (2° Categoria, 553 m, 5.5 Km al 5.8%, Km 135.4), Kalorama (4° Categoria, 528 m, 1.3 Km al 6.0%, Km 140.9).

Not the queen stage, but probabily the hardest: a sort of Aussie Liege-Bastogne-Liege, 214 kms and 9 KOMs that could change the GC. The "muur" of Ferny Creek, 2,5 kms at 10%, could be decisive.

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The Dandenong Ranges National Park, where today's climbs are placed, is a paradise for local cyclists...
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...a nicely photoshopped picture of Melbourne area shot from the top of Mount Dandenong, the highest peak of The Dandenong Ranges National Park.

STAGE 6: BALWYN NORTH - MELBOURNE, 18.5 km, same for both routes
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Last stage, a time-trial with long straight stretches and a couple of tricky corners in the middle part.

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The capital of Victoria and the second biggest city of Australia, Melborune.

That's all, here the links:
Normal route -> maps/tours/view/8080
Short route -> maps/tours/view/8073

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Aramis_SwissCycling » 06/02/2018, 18:23

Hi. :augh:
This is my version of the Tour Down Harder 2018. maps/tours/view/8163

The 1st stage is for sprinters who pass the hills very well or for a small group able to break away from the peloton.
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Victor Harbor !

The leaders of this Tour will have to battle from the 2nd stage with a finish in Halls Gap, in the descent of Mount Victory, quite a nice climb (12 km at 4 %)
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Isn't it beautiful ?

The queen stage is the third stage whose finish is at the top of Mount Baw Baw (12 km at 8% with passages at 17%!). :happy:
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Mount Baw Baw !


The 4th stage is also very interesting to follow, it takes place on the island of Tasmania with a finish at the top of a hill of 2nd category.
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Iron blow, what a view for the finish !

A 27 km individual time trial will benefit the specialists in this discipline.
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Sandy Point : city of departure.

The last stage arrives in Melbourne. We'll probably see a sprinter win.
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Cyclsits in Melbourne ! They just need good bikes. :blink:


Thank you !

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by nat63 » 07/02/2018, 16:28

Hi !!! I'm posting here my route, which contains :
- 1 high mountain stage
- 1 surprising finish, preceded by almost 20 km of dirty road !
- 3 medium mountain stages (with hard ascents near the finish line clap )
- 1 ITT, of more than 30 km.
Moreoover, I decided to finsih at Melbourne, because the city is the second most populated of Australia, it is close to Australien alpine Resort, the city is regularly hosting global events (like formula 1 Grand Prix, which will end this Tour Down Harder)


Stage 1: the hardest stage to begin this australian tour, with two major climbs, that may look like Grand Tour ascents, and quite high height.
Best climbers must gain time gap, and should gain it before the ITT !

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Stage 2:

That's an easier day than the last one, and a large break could gain a good gap until last hill : Stanley pass (highest rate
> 20%)

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Stage 3: This third stage is claerly made for adventurers (very long, favorites will aim to preserve themselves on the day before a decisive ITT, and a rolling finish)

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Stage 4: An Itt divided into two parts: - 0 to 14 km: Moe South road, climb and its technical descent
- 14 to 33 km: this side will give an advantage to specialist with larger and quite flat road.

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Stage 5: This means one of the last chance for climbers to put on the leader jersey, and we push them to do this in promoting a unpredictable finish (dirty road, and huge rate in Baw Baw hill-passages at 22%)

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Stage 6: The last but not the least, this final stage must be intersrting to follow because of its ascents far from the finish line (the last opportunity to win the TDH in creating several gaps), and the rolling last part on Melbourne streets!

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I post now the global map of the Tour and invit you to know a little bit more baout my route there : maps/tours/view/8342


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Hpe you will enjoy and good luck to every contender ! :babbo:

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by david.tuci » 08/02/2018, 19:58

My Tour Down Harder
maps/tours/view/8355

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Pr8 » 09/02/2018, 0:19

Link of my race: maps/tours/view/8213

I decided to draw a race basically similar to the classical Tour Down Under, with short stages suitable for an early season race and for the torrid summer temperatures of January in South Australia. There's however a notable difference in the typology of stages and in the distribution of difficulties. This new race will be favorable to GT cyclist, basically for the inclusion of two inedited stages for the Australian race, an ITT and an High Mountain arrive.
I chose to draw all the stages in a reduced area, with the aim of enhancing a precise area of Australia, as done by the Tour Down Under with Adelaide. In this case I chose the region of Melbourne, with a greater variety of grounds.
In conclusion, I put a lot of attention in crossing attractive areas from a touristic, cultural and naturalistic point of view.

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Stage 1: Phillip Island (Point Grant) > Warragul (151 km)
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After a scenographic departure from the lighthouse of Point Grant, the race will cross Phillip Island and the green hills of the Mount Worth State Park. The finish line is located in the small city of Warragul, and it seems to be perfect for sprinters. They should be careful not to let this opportunity escape, because the following opportunity could arrive just at the sixth and final stage.

Stage 2: Pakenham > Mornington Peninsula (Arthurs Seat) (185 km)
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A lot of wonderful places will be crossed by the race during the second stage of the TDH. After a little tour around the Cardinia Lake riders will cross the plain south of Melbourne towards the Mornington Peninsula, a region famous for its wine production and for its natural beauties. the second part of the race is rich of short but steep climbs, ending with the challenging Arthurs Seat, above Dromana. It's a great opprtunity for rouleurs.

Stage 3: Portarlington > Woodend (181 km)
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Crossed the Port Phillip Bay, the peloton will depart from the seaside town of Portarlington and go up to the north, crossing places already known by cycling (such as Geelong, home of the 2011 World Races and of the Cadel Evans Great Ocean Road Race).The stage is initially quite easy, with only two "3rd category" climbs in the middle of the route. The main difficult of the day is however the Mount Macedon (5.4 Km - 8.4%). From the top of the climb riders will have to face 10 more km, almost all downhill. The favorites for the final victory can not be hidden today.

Stage 4: Diamond Creek > Diamond Creek ITT (23 km)
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Diamond Creek, northern suburb of Melbourne, located in a green and rural area, is historically famous for its rich Gold Mine. Here riders will face each other in a time trial very important for the general classification, especially in view of the demanding next stage. The route is not flat, but there aren't very demanding climbs. Climbers will have to minimize damage.

Stage 5: Lilydale > Donna Buang Summit (157 km)
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Finally the decisive day, the more demanding stage of the Tour Down Harder. The stage is quite short, but rich of climbs (6), with a total D+ of 3500 m. Myers Creek (9.5 Km - 5.2%) and Mont Toolebewong (5.6 Km - 6.8%) in particular will select the peloton, before the final, decisive climb. Donna Buang (16.0 Km - 6.5%) is a climb worthy of a GT, with maximum slopes of 13%. Climbers can recover today all the time lost during the ITT.

Stage 6: Ringwood > Melbourne (Albert Park) (124 km)
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Starting from the suburbs of Melbourne, the last stage will be run almost entirely (apart from a small deviation towards the Silvan Lake and the Dandegon Ranges National Park) in this metropolis, second city of Australia for population. The second part of the route is completely flat, passes through the big city center of Melbourne and reaches the Albert Park. Here, in one of the temples of "Formula 1", sprinters will face each other in the six rounds of the circuit. Here will be crowned the winner of the race.

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