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Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

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Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 29/01/2018, 21:36

Contest #2 - Giro d'Italia 2018
The first GT contest (Cat. 1) of the year will, of course, be on Giro d'Italia. Why I'll open it so early? Because drawing a GT is not for all and i want to give you three months to do it (at least say thanks)

The contest will be about redrawing the 2018 Giro d'Italia. That will mainly means
- You have to keep the start from Israel. You can change the starting points and cities but you have to pass on West Jerusalem and you cannot go in Palestinian territories for safety reasons.
- You have to end it in Rome
- You cannot repeat finals or key parts of stages of 2017 real race
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 15 different regions
- 2018 is 100 years after WWI end, so you have to remember it in at least two stages

Opposite from the other contests, you can have a maximum of TWO routes submitted for this one

The Giro should be balanced, offering a "Dumoulin" and a "Quintana" the same chances to compete for the maglia rosa.

The Deadline will be on 4/5, when the first rider of real Giro d'Italia will start his ITT

You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 3 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.

Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus

Good luck anyone

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In Italian:

Il contest verte sul ridisegnare il Giro 2018 con queste condizioni

A) Mantenere la partenza da Israele, senza sconfinare in altri stati o territori palestinesi. Si possono cambiare le città ma bisogna passare da Gerusalemme
B) Bisogna finire a Roma
C) Non si possono ripetere finali o punti chiavi di tappe del Giro 2017
D) Bisogna inserire almeno una partenza o arrivo di tappa in 15 diverse regioni italiane
E) Bisogna inserire almeno due tappe a tema (o con punti che tocchino il tema) "100 anni dalla fine della prima guerra mondiale"

Si possono mandare fino a due percorsi per utente

Il percorso deve essere bilanciato tra cronoman-scalatori, permettendo di essere vinto sia da un Dumoulin che da un Quintana

Chiunque posti il percorso con profili e descrizioni nel topic avrà tre punti bonus per la presentazione

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Routes submitted:
emilio.torre: maps/tours/view/8235
ivan98: maps/tours/view/8238
mauro: maps/tours/view/8284
alfa: maps/tours/view/8281
Anthofou31: maps/tours/view/8297
pereiroseleccion: maps/tours/view/8254
simone.galbiati: maps/tours/view/8237
xiky: maps/tours/view/8377
benoit.guillot: maps/tours/view/8288
ded-moroz: maps/tours/view/8395
belgian4444: maps/tours/view/8416
crisborto11: maps/tours/view/8454
lorenzo.tripodi: maps/tours/view/8441
jsavi: maps/tours/view/8327
lorenzo06: maps/tours/view/8506
emilio.torrei-v2: maps/tours/view/8718
simone.galbiati-v2: maps/tours/view/8807
pereiroseleccion-v2: maps/tours/view/8343
david.tuci: maps/tours/view/8361
david.tuci-v2: maps/tours/view/8360
chiumiento: maps/tours/view/8848
kevink: maps/tours/view/8622
lorenzo.ciconte: maps/tours/view/8972
bomby: maps/tours/view/9004
federico.belluco: maps/tours/view/8952
alberto.avanzi: maps/tours/view/8473
laplaz: maps/tours/view/8964
melz2309: maps/tours/view/8249
jibivalverde: maps/tours/view/8551
quagmire: maps/tours/view/8146
mike4296: maps/tours/view/8547
az1234t: maps/tours/view/8935
rdz1201: maps/tours/view/9156
nebe-v1: maps/tours/view/8498
nebe-v2: maps/tours/view/8758
paoloagb: maps/tours/view/9186
rmax85: maps/tours/view/8253
ciroabete: maps/tours/view/8300
pincoletto: maps/tours/view/8713
xflyinghighx: maps/tours/view/9221
EliaVeronesi: maps/tours/view/8344
Maino della Spinetta: maps/tours/view/8989
Taaramae_crack: maps/tours/view/9214
Marco08: maps/tours/view/8797
Nat63: maps/tours/view/8296
Alegard: maps/tours/view/9055
CaramelMou: maps/tours/view/9147
Giorgio.ponticelli: maps/tours/view/8252
Giorgio.ponticelli-v2: maps/tours/view/8616
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 16/02/2018, 11:56

Considering the Contest #1 review, everyone who sent his route is free to check it and fix it according to the standards until the deadline

You have until may, take your time
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Belgian4444 » 18/02/2018, 18:54

Presentation per stage in the spoiler. Full route: maps/tours/view/8416

A short Grand Tour (3100 km), but action-packed. Lesser climbers can hang on until stage 13, but from there the favourites will have to show themselves. About 5 mass sprints + some stages where sprinters might be able to hang on.

Italian regions with start and/or finish: Calabria, Basicilata, Puglia, Molisse, Campania, Lazio, Abruzzo, Emilia Romagna, Veneto, Fruili, Trentino, Lombardia, Piemonte, Liguria, Toscana
Spoiler!
Stage 1: Tel Aviv (TTT)

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Not the shortest TTT, not the longest, all set in Tel Aviv. No major difficulties, so there should be some gaps in the GC, but overall those shouldn't be too big.

Stage 2: Tel Aviv - Jerusalem

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A perfect opportunity for the hill specialists to have their chance to wear the pink jersey. Ramat Razi'El should thin the peloton and/or create the chance for a small group to breakaway, where Mount Herzl could be the scene of the start of a solo effort but it could also mean that the tactical battle brings the peloton back.

Stage 3: Bet Shemesh - Asjdod

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The first mass sprint finishes with a straight of 1km.

REST DAY

Stage 4: Rosano Stazione - Maratea (Statua del Cristo)

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Finally we get to Italy. The last kilometres sees no less than 15 hairpin turns on the climb to the Statua del Cristo in Maratea. It's a tight finish, so the final 2km will be without public on the route. The Abbey, combined with the parking & Santa Catharina a bit lower, provides space for logistics. A hill specialist with an explosive sprint will take the win here and might take over the pink jersey.

Stage 5: Francavilla in Sinni - Altamura

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A second sprint stage, but a lot tougher. The first climb of the day will certainly be a wake up call.

Stage 6: Oppido Lucano - Pompeii

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Will the hill specialist on top of the GC hang on here? Or will an early attack make it? Not an important stage for the GC riders as they will ride along comfortably, but the riders who want to stay in the top 10 for a while before the first mountains will find this stage crucial for their hopes to have a day in pink.

Stage 7: Pompeii - Bojano

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A third sprint stage, but, again, not the easiest one.

Stage 8: Bojano - Montecassino

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If you look at the final climb, the riders who were in front in Maratea could battle it out again, but the road is now more difficult. Again, the abbey and parking should provide enough space for logistics in combination with the city of Cassino.

Stage 9: Cassino - Aremogna

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Climbers can make their first moves here. Again make-or-break for hill specialists to stay in the running.

REST DAY

At this point, the GC riders main concern should have been hanging on. Some might have found some opportunities to gain a little time here and there, but unless someone had an off-day, the GC should still be wide open.

Stage 10: Ravenna - Padua

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Another good shot for a mass sprint.

Stage 11: Martellago - San Michele del Carso (WW1 remembrance)

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Not exactly a sprint uphill. If you want to go solo from a peloton, this is the stage to do that. The route goes along the two main rivers that were the scenery of the Italian front during WW1.

Stage 12: Gradisca d'Isonzo - Gorizia (ITT, WW1 remembrance)

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An extra stage to remember the battle on the Isonzo. The ITT isn't 100% for the pure TT riders, so the results could bring some small surprises. Expect quite the mix-up of the GC here.

Stage 13: Udine - Passo Pramolo

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If some TT specialists got some big gaps, the frustration of the climbers can provide some nice initiatives here.

Stage 14: Enemezo - Tonadico

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A few times above 10% for the Cima Coppi. The opportunity for the best downhill specialists to show themselves, or to reduce their distance to the first riders.

Stage 15: Borgo Valsugana - Bréscia

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This might be the best stage for an early attack to get to the end. Sprinters won't be in the front at the halfway point. If some are, an interesting cat-mouse game can develop.

REST DAY

A mix-up of the GC should have happened. Some semi-climbers might still have been able to hang on. Gaps shouldn't be too big, but noticeable.

Stage 16: Varese - Alpe di Mera

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A very steep end to the day. If a GC rider didn't manage their rest day well, they could lose a lot of time.

Stage 17: Ivrea - Passo della Croce

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A short stage. The final climb isn't very hard, but the sequence of three climbs (the first two are very difficult) should lure the climbers to take initiative and attack if they want to get a lead.

Stage 18: Rivoli - Novi Ligure

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The last chance for a good, clean sprint.

Stage 19: Novi Ligure - Carasco

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Teams who haven't had a win will be desperate to get in the early attack. A sprint is nearly impossible and the GC riders will want to spare their legs. The final climb should give an opportunity for a solo rider.

Stage 20: Sestri Levante - Casone

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A steep end to the regular routes. Because of the high percentages, gaps might be small on the top, but the small part after it should lengthen these gaps and bring motivation to attack.

Stage 21: Roma

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An individual effort ends the Giro. Climbers better have gathered some advantage over the previous stages.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 20/02/2018, 0:01

Ded-Moroz wrote:
14/02/2018, 10:45
Giro d'Italia
maps/tours/view/8395

Total distance - 3083.56 Km
Sprint stages - 9
Medium mountain stages - 4
Mountain stages - 5
Time trials - 3
MTF - 5
Hill finish - 1
Cima Coppi - Mount Mangart(2060 m)
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Crisborto11 » 21/02/2018, 12:53

maps/tours/view/8454

My giro d'italia 2018

tappe storiche:
-Osario del Pasubio
-Fedaia

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Ded-Moroz » 21/02/2018, 13:08

emmea90 wrote:
20/02/2018, 0:01
Ded-Moroz wrote:
14/02/2018, 10:45
Giro d'Italia
maps/tours/view/8395

Total distance - 3083.56 Km
Sprint stages - 9
Medium mountain stages - 4
Mountain stages - 5
Time trials - 3
MTF - 5
Hill finish - 1
Cima Coppi - Mount Mangart(2060 m)
Your link is missing
maps/tours/view/8395

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by lorenzo.tripodi » 22/02/2018, 18:58

Hello everyone !!!

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by lorenzo.tripodi » 23/02/2018, 16:50

Day to all, I present my Giro : maps/tours/view/8441

This is the track : Image

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by jsavi » 23/02/2018, 22:57

My race for the contest:
maps/tours/view/8327

The three rest days will be after the Israelian stages, Bologna and Biella.
The WWI will be remembered in the stages finishing in Vittorio Veneto and Gorizia
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Lorenzo06 » 26/02/2018, 15:25

maps/tours/view/8506
:asd: it's the my giro d'italia of contest

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 26/02/2018, 16:31

For all the contest competitors

Remember to indicate CLEARLY in the description of the Tour WHERE the rest days are. Of course the first one will be after the three israelian stages but you have to write down the other two somewhere.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by jibvalverde » 28/02/2018, 15:40

Hey,

I just finish my Giro but i have a question before to formalize my tour. I remember we can't take key part of stages og Giro 2017 but can we take key part of Giro 2017 if it's not a key part at all in our Giro ? Like take Oropa in first climb or climb Grappa+Foza in first half of a stage ? Thanks for the answer and, if i must, i will change but i'd like my Giro now^^

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 28/02/2018, 16:10

jibvalverde wrote:
28/02/2018, 15:40
Hey,

I just finish my Giro but i have a question before to formalize my tour. I remember we can't take key part of stages og Giro 2017 but can we take key part of Giro 2017 if it's not a key part at all in our Giro ? Like take Oropa in first climb or climb Grappa+Foza in first half of a stage ? Thanks for the answer and, if i must, i will change but i'd like my Giro now^^
It's not a good thing as evaluation point, but yes you can and it won't give you any penalty.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emilio.torre » 18/03/2018, 13:31

maps/tours/view/8718

This my second track for this Giro's 2018 contest

In this track there are :
6 stage for Sprinters
6 medium mountain stage
6 high mountain stage
1 prologue time trial
1 pursuit hillclimb time trial
1 individual time trial

The theme stage are
Stage 4, 5 & 6 are dedicated to World War I memorial
Stage 12 is dedicated to Michele Scarponi
Stage 17 is dedicated to Padre Pio's 50th anniversary

The are 3 rest\transfer days
1st Transfer day - from Tel Aviv to Trieste by plane
2nd Rest day - Forte dei Marmi
3rd Transfer day - from Fisciano to Lecce

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by nat63 » 24/03/2018, 14:11

Hello, are the descent of Colle di Sampeyre and Fauniera practicable ? |schum

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Post by emmea90 » 24/03/2018, 17:26

nat63 wrote:
24/03/2018, 14:11
Hello, are the descent of Colle di Sampeyre and Fauniera practicable ? |schum
Tecnically they are dangerous. They are asphalted but too risky. Giro actually didn't go there because if someone had an accident would be their responsability.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by simone.galbiati » 25/03/2018, 13:17

hello, my second attempt to this contest:https: //www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/tours/view/8807

there are

2 ITT (first 8km second 30km)
5 flat stages
5 medium mountain stages (1 with MTF)
9 mountain stages (5 with MTF)

ww1 stages are 14th (passage in Caporetto and Friulan area) and 16th (end in Campana dei Caduti)

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Pereiroseleccion » 03/04/2018, 22:42

My second Giro. WWI remembered in Rovereto, Sappada and Vittorio Veneto. Rest days after stages 3, 9 and 15.

maps/tours/view/8343

By the way, I edited the first one removing the ascent of Foza included in 2017 Giro

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by david.tuci » 04/04/2018, 12:26

maps/tours/view/8361

This is my version of Giro d'Italia: it reminds the penultimate Giro ending in Rome, the 2009 edition with the last week in Southern Italy. Compared to 2009 edition this one goes more South to have finish in more regions.
First three stages are in Israel: the first two not too distant from real ones, the third goes Nord instead South, ending 200 m under sea level.
There are finishes in 16 regions: Toscana (il Ciocco), Liguria (Arenzano), Val d'Aosta (Aosta), Piemonte (Arona), Lombardia (Brescia Monte Maddalena and Sirmione), Trentino Alto Adige (Torri del Vajolet), Friuli Venezia Giulia (Redipuglia), Veneto (Monte Grappa), Emilia Romagna (Lugo di Romagna), Marche (Filottrano), Molise (Termoli), Basilicata (Grassano), Calabria (Praia a Mare), Campania (Rifugio Calvanico), Abruzzo (Block Haus), Lazio (Roma). A stage starts in Apulia (San Severo).
4 stages reminds of I world war: Trento-Torri del Vajolet (it starts near Castello del Buonconsiglio, where was executed Italian hero Cesare Battisti), Redipuglia (memorial of I WW), Monte Grappa (memorial of I WW), Lugo di Romagna (city of Francesco Baracca, I WW aviator).
Other than Israel another stage ends in a foreign country, San Marino.
The second time trial is in the tradition of wines time trial of the giro (Prosecco, Barolo, Chianti, Sagrantino): this one is dedicated to the Verdicchio, ending in Filottrano, the city of Michele Scarponi.
Rest days after stage three (air transfer from Israel to Pisa), nine (Sirmione) and fifteen (Filottrano).
Other details in single stage profile.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by david.tuci » 16/04/2018, 19:50

maps/tours/view/8360

This is a correct version of Giro d'Italia: there is no more the finish at Block Haus, that could have been penalized cause there was in 2017 Giro too (though the fnish in my version was different and higher).
It reminds the penultimate Giro ending in Rome, the 2009 edition with the last week in Southern Italy. Compared to 2009 edition this one goes more South to have finish in more regions.
First three stages are in Israel: the first two not too distant from real ones, the third goes Nord instead South, ending 200 m under sea level.
There are finishes in 16 regions: Toscana (il Ciocco), Liguria (Arenzano), Val d'Aosta (Aosta), Piemonte (Arona), Lombardia (Brescia Monte Maddalena and Sirmione), Trentino Alto Adige (Torri del Vajolet), Friuli Venezia Giulia (Redipuglia), Veneto (Monte Grappa), Emilia Romagna (Lugo di Romagna), Marche (Filottrano), Abruzzo (Gran Sasso d'Italia), Molise (Campitello Matese), Basilicata (Grassano), Calabria (Praia a Mare), Campania (Rifugio Calvanico), Lazio (Roma).
4 stages reminds of I world war: Trento-Torri del Vajolet (it starts near Castello del Buonconsiglio, where was executed Italian hero Cesare Battisti), Redipuglia (memorial of I WW), Monte Grappa (memorial of I WW), Lugo di Romagna (city of Francesco Baracca, I WW aviator).
Other than Israel another stage ends in a foreign country, San Marino.
The second time trial is in the tradition of wines time trial of the giro (Prosecco, Barolo, Chianti, Sagrantino): this one is dedicated to the Verdicchio, ending in Filottrano, the city of Michele Scarponi.
Rest days after stage three (air transfer from Israel to Pisa), nine (Sirmione) and fifteen (Filottrano).
Other details in single stage profile.

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