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Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020
Later than usually is in the season, it is still time for the 2020 Tour de France Contest

You have to re-draw and improve 2020 Tour de France

Constraints
- Gran Depart should be kept the same way (Stage 1 and 2 starts and finishing in Nice, in same points. You can switch finish of stage 1 and 2 or also starts, but a finish point should remain a finish point and a start point should remain a start point)
- Of course you have to end TDF in Champs-Elysees. This means that stage 20-21 transfer shall be 'realistic'
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 7 different france regions
- You can freely choose what to do before Alps or Pyrenees
- 2020 Tour has Covid-19 problem. So, to simplify things, you are not allowed to leave France for the whole route. All the Kms of Tour de France shall be in France.
- You must have from 5 to 7 stages for pure sprinters, Paris included - and no more than 2 of them consequently
- There should be at least 2 high mountain stages that does NOT end in a MTF

Deadline will be Sunday 20/9/2020, when the first rider will cross Tour de France 2020 Stage 21 line. Or 23.59 if the stage won't happen

Tour must be done using Tour de France - 2019 profiles, with Large X-Size and normal slopes on to have an easy comparison between different routes.

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If I want ITT/TTT for stage 1 - should I use as "starting point" KM zero (Avenue de Rimiez) or GD starting point (Place Masséna)?
If I need to use km zero as starting point - I would need make 4km descent immediately after start for my ITT/TTT. I don't want to start at Avenue de Rimiez because it would have been a waste of ITT/TTT kilometres. I would prefer Place Masséna as Stage 1 starting point. Likewise km zero is not a good start for my stage 2.
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Bocmanis82 wrote: 22/08/2020, 23:16 If I want ITT/TTT for stage 1 - should I use as "starting point" KM zero (Avenue de Rimiez) or GD starting point (Place Masséna)?
If I need to use km zero as starting point - I would need make 4km descent immediately after start for my ITT/TTT. I don't want to start at Avenue de Rimiez because it would have been a waste of ITT/TTT kilometres. I would prefer Place Masséna as Stage 1 starting point. Likewise km zero is not a good start for my stage 2.
For the ITT, the GD starting point as they don't have transfer.
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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Here's my entry

maps/tours/view/15829

-Big Start in Nice, 2 stages in the region
-Queen Stage: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - Méribel-Mottaret (Stage 17) or Albertville - Rumilly (Stage 18)
-Key Climbs: Col de la Lusette (Stage 6), Hautacam (Col de Tramassel) (Stage 8), Col Bagargi and Col Inharpu (Stage 9), Pas de Peyrol and Col du Pertus (Stage 13), Col d'Herbouilly (stage 15), L'Alpe d'Huez (Lac Besson) (Stage 16), Col de la Madeleine and Col de la Loze (Stage 17), Col de la Biche and Col du Grand Colombier (Stage 18), La Planches des Belles Filles (Stage 20)
-Time Trial: 76,1 kms
-The Tour starts and/or finishes in a total of 7 regions, as requested. Provence-Alps-Côte d'Azur, Auvergne-Rhône-Alps, Occitanie, Nouvelle-Aquitane, Pays de la Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comte and Île-de-France

Looking at this year's Tour, i felt like it didn't meet a lot of my expectations, so i decided to see if I could improve its design. Therefore it follows a very similar route, visiting a lot of the same places. I left the Big Start in Nice unchanged, i think they are really nice stages. In addition, I included the real stage 10 as my stage 11, and the final TT in the same place. I hope you'll like my reinterpretation of the Tour de France 2020.
Spoiler!
Tour de France 2020

Stage 1 - Nice - Nice - Flat
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The Tour starts in the stunning Côte d'Azur with 3 loops around the city of Nice. A sprint finish is expected in the Promenades des Anglais, but the hilly nature of the profile up until the 30km to the finish mark, could make some of them suffer if the pace is rather high.

Stage 2 - Nice - Nice - Medium Mountain
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And unusual hard second stage in the Tour. The riders will have to face the hard climbs of Col de la Colmiane and Col de Turini, before a long downhill that returns the show within reach of NIce, where the last 2 climbs await, Col d'Éze and its little sibling Col des Quatre Chemins. It should be a very tricky stage as the riders rarely have to face a stage like this at the start of a Grand Tour. Since it will be hard to control, look for the potential breakaway winners and be careful with some second tier GC riders, as they can have the freedom to gain some time thanks to the breakaway.

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Stage 3 - Cannes - Aix-en-Provence - Hilly
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The stage starts in Cannes, best known for being host to one of the most famous Film Festivals, and goes west, leaaving Nice and Côte d'Azur behind, entering in the charming Provence. It's a largely flat stage, with a punchy final kms around the city of Aix-en-Provence, with several tricky climbs. The final kms are uphill, before flatening out with 500m to the finish. It should be a stage for strong sprinters and puncheurs.

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Stage 4 - Aix-en-Provence - Sisteron - Flat
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A short, flat stage, without much history, that should end up in a massive sprint in the streets of Sisteron.

Stage 5 - Sisteron - Aubenas - Hilly
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The Tour leaves the Alpine landscape behind, going towards the Rhône Valley, through the heart of the Natural Park of Baronnies provençales. As they cross the Rhône, the stage becomes harder, because the riders will have to face 3 categorized climbs, including a Cat 2 and a finish at the top of a Cat 4 climb going up to the historic part of Aubenas. Should be a perfect stage for the puncheurs.

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(Can't post the last climb's profile, as it generates one that's not correct, not sure why)

Stage 6 - Alès - Mont Aigoual - High Mountain
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The first high mountain stage is raced in the Cevennes, in the southern part of the Massif Central, and features the hardest climb in the whole massil, Col de la Lusette, very irregular, with several steep stretches that reach a maximum of 15%. Afterwards, there's still the final climb of Mont Aigoual, which isn't really steep, so if someone wants to take time, they'll have to attack earlier. It will be the first real test for the GC riders and it will make the first selection of riders.

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Stage 7 - Millau - Lavaur - Flat
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The stages goes through the rollercoaster terrain that can easily be found in the Departments of Aveyron and Tarn. It's not the easiest of stages and some sprinters who aren't in shape or can't handle the climbs, could be in trouble. Still, they shouldn't prevent a sprint finish but watch out for the wind that usually blows in this part of France, which could play a very important part both for the sage win and for the GC.

Stage 8 - Auch - Hautacam - High Mountain
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The second weekend kicks off in the city of Auch, the historical capital of Gascony, and goes towards the Pyrenées, After crossing Tarbes and Lourdes, the riders will have to first face the Col du Soulor, the well known Aubisque's little sibling, and after a downhill to Argelès-Gazost, they'll have still to climb the tough Hautacam. The riders will finish at the top of the Col de Tramassel, instead of in the Ski station itself.

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Stage 9 - Oloron-Sainte-Marie - Mauléon-Licharre - High Mountain
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The Queen stage of the Pyrenées is raced between the Bearn and the Pays Basque historical regions. The riders will have to face the HC climbs of Col du Soudet and Col de la Hourcère plus the potentially destructive combo of Col Bagargi and Col Inharpu. A high mountain marathon in the western Pyrenées that will be extremely important for the GC. If a rider has a bad day they can easily lose the Tour in this stage.

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Rest Day - Angoulême

Stage 10 - Jarnac - Cognac - Individual Time Trial
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The roads crossing the Cognac vineyards that give us the famous Cognac brandy will host the first ITT of the Tour. It's almost 40kms, raced through lumpy roads with a lot of ups and downs, at least until Segonzac. The better TTers will have the perfect opportunity to turn the balance in their favour.

Stage 11 - Ile d'Oléron (Le Château-d'Oléron) - Ile de Ré (Saint-Martin-de-Ré) - Flat
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The flattest stage in the Tour will link two islands, and it will be very nervous that to the wind that blows in this region. It can be potentially very dangerous for the GC riders. Otherwise it's a stage that surely will be won by a sprinter.

Stage 12 - Fontenay-le-Comte - Limoges - Flat
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Second consecutive flat stage, but this time with an uphill finish in Limoges. This is the same finish used in 2016 Stage 4, where the recently retired Marcel Kittel ended up beating Brian Coquard in the photofinish. So pure sprinters won't have as much of an advantage, but they still can win.

Stage 13 - Bourganeuf - Masbaraud-Mérignat - Le Lioran - Medium Mountain
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The stage start is co hosted by the rural town of Masbaraud-Mérignat and its bigger more important neighbor town of Bourganeuf. Masbaraud-Mérignat is the hometown of the late Raymond Poulidor. The stage also passes through Saint-Léonard-de-Noblet, where Poulidor lived and eventually died. This stage was meant to be a tribute to him, and also an attempt to merge the Sarran and the Pas de Peyrol stages, and then adding my own personal flavor to it. The result ends up being an extremely long and hard medium mountain stage, facing a fearsome sequence of Col de Neronne, Pas de Peyrol, Col du Pertus and Col de la Font de Cère before the finish at one of the biggest ski stations in the Massif Central, Le Lioran.

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Stage 14 - Brioude - Lyon - Hilly
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A transition stage, best suited for a breakaway with a lot of up and down, pretty common for a stage in the Massif Central. Watch out for riders in the top 10 and top 15 to make the break and potentially make up a lot of ground.

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Stage 15 - Annonay - Villard-de-Lans (Côte 2000) - Medium Mountain
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The second week finishes with a hard medium mountain in the Vercors Massif, which has been largely ignored by the Tour de France. The riders will have to face the tough climbs of Col des Limouches and Col de l'Echarasson, before facing the last sequence of Col d'Herbouilly, a deceptively hard climb, don't let the average slope mislead you, and the final climb up to the ski station of Villard-de-Lans. Great stage for tactical plays and ambushes.

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Rest Day - Grenoble

Stage 16 - Grenoble - L'Alpe d'Huez (Lac Besson) - High Mountain
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The last week starts with a short stage, with no big climbs beside the MTF, but with a pesky lumpy profile, and rarely flat. The legendary climb to L'Alpe d'Huez has been extended, and they will continue to climb towards Col du Poultran and eventually to Lac Besson. It's the toughest MTF in the race.

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Stage 17 - Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - Méribel-Mottaret - High Mountain
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Short, explosive stage with 3 big climbs and almost no kms of flat. The riders will start facing immediately the colossus that is Col de la Madeleine, followed after a short flat section by the even more colossal Col de la Loze, the hardest climb in the race, and with stretches that reach 20%. The race will for sure explode in its slopes. Afterwards the riders will face a long downhill through Courchevel and loop towards Méribel again, for the long final climb to Méribel-Mottaret. Who will survive?

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Stage 18 - Albertville - Rumilly - High Mountain
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The last mountain stage is a long marathon between Savoie Haute-Savoie and Ain. The riders have to face 5 categorized climbs, including the HC Col de la Biche and the steepest side of the Col du Grand Colombier. The race should explode on the Grand Colombier, but after a long, scenic and technical descent, they still have to face yet another steep climb inedit to the Tour, Col du Clergeon. The finish is in Rumilly after a descent, interrupted by a steep uncategorised climb, very close to the finish. It's the last opportunity for the climbers

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Stage 19 - Bellegarde-sur-Valserine - Besançon - Flat
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A transition type of stage, that crosses the Jura into Franche-Comté for a probable sprint finish in Besançon. However, so late in the tour, a breakaway could have success.

Stage 20 - Lure - La Planche des Belles Filles - Individual Time Trial
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The day of decisions. A very tough ITT with a long rolling section and a steep Cat 1 to finish. The diferences could be huge

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Stage 21 - Montgeron - Paris Champs-Elysées - Flat
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The Tour ends with the traditional epilogue in Paris, at the Champs Elysees. Time for the usual sprinters party and afterwards the big celebrations in a stunning scenery.
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Post by benoît.guillot »

ellvey wrote: 24/08/2020, 5:56 Here's my entry

maps/tours/view/15829

-Big Start in Nice, 2 stages in the region
-Queen Stage: Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - Méribel-Mottaret (Stage 17) or Albertville - La Roche-sur-Foron (Stage 18)
-Key Climbs: Col de la Lusette (Stage 6), Hautacam (Col de Tramassel) (Stage 8), Col Bagargi and Col Inharpu (Stage 9), Pas de Peyrol and Col du Pertus (Stage 13), Col d'Herbouilly (stage 15), L'Alpe d'Huez (Stage 16), Col de la Madeleine and Col de la Loze (Stage 17), Col de la Colombière and Col des Glières (Stage 18), La Planches des Belles Filles (Stage 20)
-Time Trial: 76,1 kms
-The Tour starts and/or finishes in a total of 7 regions, as requested. Provence-Alps-Côte d'Azur, Auvergne-Rhône-Alps, Occitanie, Nouvelle-Aquitane, Pays de la Loire, Bourgogne-Franche-Comte and Île-de-France

Looking at this year's Tour, i felt like it didn't meet a lot of my expectations, so i decided to see if I could improve its design. Therefore it follows a very similar route, visiting a lot of the same places. I left the Big Start in Nice unchanged, i think they are really nice stages. In addition, I included the real stage 10 as my stage 11, and the final TT in the same place. I hope you'll like my reinterpretation of the Tour de France 2020.
Spoiler!
Tour de France 2020

Stage 1 - Nice - Nice - Flat
Image
The Tour starts in the stunning Côte d'Azur with 3 loops around the city of Nice. A sprint finish is expected in the Promenades des Anglais, but the hilly nature of the profile up until the 30km to the finish mark, could make some of them suffer if the pace is rather high.

Stage 2 - Nice - Nice - Medium Mountain
Image
And unusual hard second stage in the Tour. The riders will have to face the hard climbs of Col de la Colmiane and Col de Turini, before a long downhill that returns the show within reach of NIce, where the last 2 climbs await, Col d'Éze and its little sibling Col des Quatre Chemins. It should be a very tricky stage as the riders rarely have to face a stage like this at the start of a Grand Tour. Since it will be hard to control, look for the potential breakaway winners and be careful with some second tier GC riders, as they can have the freedom to gain some time thanks to the breakaway.

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Stage 3 - Cannes - Aix-en-Provence - Hilly
Image
The stage starts in Cannes, best known for being host of one of the most famous Film Festivals, and goes west, leaaving Nice and Côte d'Azur behind, entering in the charming Provence. It's alargely flat stage, with a punchy final kms around the city of Aix-en-Provence, with several tricky climbs. The final kms are uphill, before flatenning out with 500m to the finish. It should be a stage for strong sprinters and puncheurs.

ImageImage

Stage 4 - Aix-en-Provence - Sisteron - Flat
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A short, flat stage, without much history, that should end up in a massive sprint in the streets of Sisteron.

Stage 5 - Sisteron - Aubenas - Hilly
Image
The Tour leaves the Alpine landscape behind, going towards the Rhône Valley, through the heart of the Natural Park of Baronnies provençales. As they cross the Rhône, the stage becomes harder, because the riders will have to face 3 categorized climbs, including a Cat 2 and a finish at the top of a Cat 4 climb going up to the historic part of Aubenas. Should be a perfect stage for the puncheurs.

Image Image
(Can't post the last climb's profile, as it generates one that's not correct, not sure why)

Stage 6 - Alès - Mont Aigoual - High Mountain
Image
The first high mountain stage is raced in the Cevennes, in the southern part of the Massif Central, and features the hardest climb in the whole massil, Col de la Lusette, very irregular, with several steep stretches that reach a maximum of 15%. Afterwards, there's still the final climb of Mont Aigoual, which isn't really steep, so if someone wants to take time, they'll have to attack earlier. It will be the first real test for the GC riders.

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Stage 7 - Millau - Lavaur - Flat
Image
The stages goes through the rollercoaster terrain that can easily be found in the Departments of Aveyron and Tarn. It's not the easiest of stages and some sprinters who aren't in shape or can't handle the climbs, could be in trouble on the last climb, which has some steep ramps. Still, that climb shouldn't prevent a sprint finish as there's still 10kms of flat until the finishing line. Besides the profile, in this region the wind could also play a factor.

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Stage 8 - Auch - Hautacam - High Mountain
Image
The second weekend kicks off in the city of Auch, the historical capital of Gascony, and goes towards the Pyrenées, After crossing Tarbes and Lourdes, the riders will have to first face the Col du Soulor, the well known Aubisque's little sibling, and after a downhill to Argelès-Gazost, they'll have still to climb the tough Hautacam. The riders will finish at the top of the Col de Tramassel, instead of in the Ski station itself.

Image Image

Stage 9 - Oloron-Sainte-Marie - Mauléon-Licharre - High Mountain
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The Queen stage of the Pyrenées is raced between the Bearn and the Pays Basque historical regions. The riders will have to face the HC climbs of Col du Soudet and Col de la Hourcère plus the potentially destructive combo of Col Bagargi and Col Inharpu. A high mountain marathon in the western Pyrenées that will be extremely important for the GC. If a rider has a bad they can easily lose the Tour in this stage.

Image Image
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Rest Day - Angoulême

Stage 10 - Jarnac - Cognac - Individual Time Trial
Image
The roads crossing the Cognac vineyards that give us the famous Cognac brandy will host the first ITT of the Tour. It's almost 40kms, raced through lumpy roads with a lot of ups and downs, at least until Segonzac. The better TTers will have the perfect opportunity to turn the balance in their favour.

Stage 11 - Ile d'Oléron (Le Château-d'Oléron) - Ile de Ré (Saint-Martin-de-Ré) - Flat
Image
The flattest stage in the Tour will link two islands, and it will be very nervous that to the wind that blows in this region. It can be potentially very dangerous for the GC riders. Otherwise it's a stage that surely will be won by a sprinter.

Stage 12 - Fontenay-le-Comte - Limoges - Flat
Image
Second consecutive flat stage, but this time with an uphill finish in Limoges. This is the same finish used in 2016 Stage 4, where the recently retired Marcel Kittel ended up beating Brian Coquard in the photofinish. So pure sprinters won't have as much of an advantage, but they still can win.

Stage 13 - Bourganeuf - Masbaraud-Mérignat - Le Lioran - Medium Mountain
Image
The stage start is co hosted by the rural town of Masbararaud-Mérignat and its bigger more important neighbor town of Bourganeuf. Masbaraud-Mérignat is the hometown of the late Raymond Poulidor. The stage also passes through Saint-Léonard-de-Noblet, where Poulidor lived and eventually died. This stage was meant to be a tribute to him, and also an attempt to merge the Sarran and the Pas de Peyrol stages, and then adding my own personal flavor to it. The result ends up being an extremely long and hard medium mountain stage, facing a fearsome sequence of Col de Neronne, Pas de Peyrol, Col du Pertus and Col de la Font de Cère before the finish at one of the biggest ski stations in the Massif Central, Le Lioran.

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Stage 14 - Brioude - Lyon - Hilly
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A transition stage, best suited for a breakaway with a lot of up and down, characteristically for a stage in the Massif Central. The highlight of the stage will be the punchy finish in the streets of Lyon, which could allow some attacks between the favourites, but it shouldn't have a real impact on the GC. On the other hand watch out for riders in the top 10 and top 15 to make the break and potentially make up a lot of ground.
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Stage 15 - Annonay - Villard-de-Lans (Côte 2000) - Medium Mountain
Image
The second week finishes with a hard medium mountain in the Vercors Massif, which has been largely ignored by the Tour de France. The riders will have to face the tough climbs of Col des Limouches and Col de l'Echarasson, before facing the last sequence of Col d'Herbouilly, a deceptively hard climb, don't let the average slope mislead you, and the final climb up to the ski station of Villard-de-Lans. Great stage for tactical plays and ambushes.

Image Image
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Rest Day - Grenoble

Stage 16 - Grenoble - L'Alpe d'Huez (Lac Besson) - High Mountain
Image
The last week starts with a short stage, with no big climbs beside the MTF, but with a pesky lumpy profile, and rarely flat. The legendary climb to L'Alpe d'Huez has been extended, and they will continue to climb towards Col du Poultran and eventually to Lac Besson. It's the toughest MTF in the race.

Image

Stage 17 - Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne - Méribel-Mottaret - High Mountain
Image
Short, explosive stage with 3 big climbs and almost no kms of flat. The riders will start facing immediately the colossus that is Col de la Madeleine, followed after a short flat section by the even more colossal Col de la Loze, the hardest climb in the race, and with stretches that reach 20%. The race will for sure explode in its slopes. Afterwards the riders will face a long downhill through Courchevel and loop towards Méribel again, for the long final climb to Méribel-Mottaret. Who will survive?

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Stage 18 - Albertville - La Roche-sur-Foron - High Mountain
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The last mountain stage is a long marathon between Savoie and Haute-Savoie and the riders have to face 5 categorized climbs, including the HC Col des Glières, very steep, with a dirt road on the plateau at the top, and with a lot of historical value. Riders will have to attack there, as the last climb is quite easy. Also watch out for long range attacks and tactical plays in the Col de la Colombière. It's the last chance for the climbers to gain some time.

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Stage 19 - Saint-Julien-en-Genevois - Besançon - Flat
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A transition type of stage, that crosses the Jura into Franche-Comté for a probable sprint finish in Besançon. However, so late in the tour and with a challenging first half of the stage, which includes the Cat 1 Col de la Faucille, a breakaway could have success.

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Stage 20 - Lure - La Planche des Belles Filles - Individual Time Trial
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The day of decisions. A very tough ITT with a long rolling section and a steep Cat 1 to finish. The diferences could be huge

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Stage 21 - Montgeron - Paris Champs-Elysées - Flat

The Tour ends with the traditional epilogue in Paris, at the Champs Elysees. Time for the usual sprinters party and afterwards the big celebrations in a stunning scenery.
The col de la Loze is for now a one way passage as the road is not praticable on the downhill.

Sadly, you have choose to keep the stages praticcaly as they already are (stage 2 and 20 for example). I don't think your submission will count as the rules explicitely said that you cannot use parts or key sectors of the real Tour...
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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benoît.guillot wrote: 24/08/2020, 15:53
The col de la Loze is for now a one way passage as the road is not praticable on the downhill.

Sadly, you have choose to keep the stages praticcaly as they already are (stage 2 and 20 for example). I don't think your submission will count as the rules explicitely said that you cannot use parts or key sectors of the real Tour...
I've seen pictures of it and it seems fine for a downhill, certainly the Giro has done way more dangerous descents. It's a recently paved and reasonably wide road. Cars are not allowed in the road, but that also applies to the Méribel side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSpiK-D5i4 https://www.cycling-challenge.com/col-de-la-loze/
This dates back to last year, so unless something has happened that prevents the race from going down, which certainly can happen without me knowing, as i'm not a local, i think it should be fine.

As for your second point, Emmea referenced in the first post that you couldn't reuse the key parts of the last year's Tour, but if we can't use this year's keys parts aswell, I'll happily redesign the stages in case.
Thank you for bringing your concerns to me, I appreciate it :)
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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ellvey wrote: 24/08/2020, 17:27
benoît.guillot wrote: 24/08/2020, 15:53
The col de la Loze is for now a one way passage as the road is not praticable on the downhill.

Sadly, you have choose to keep the stages praticcaly as they already are (stage 2 and 20 for example). I don't think your submission will count as the rules explicitely said that you cannot use parts or key sectors of the real Tour...
I've seen pictures of it and it seems fine for a downhill, certainly the Giro has done way more dangerous descents. It's a recently paved and reasonably wide road. Cars are not allowed in the road, but that also applies to the Méribel side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSpiK-D5i4 https://www.cycling-challenge.com/col-de-la-loze/
This dates back to last year, so unless something has happened that prevents the race from going down, which certainly can happen without me knowing, as i'm not a local, i think it should be fine.

As for your second point, Emmea referenced in the first post that you couldn't reuse the key parts of the last year's Tour, but if we can't use this year's keys parts aswell, I'll happily redesign the stages in case.
Thank you for bringing your concerns to me, I appreciate it :)
Oups my bad ! Once again I misread the rules and understood that you cannot use part of Tour 2020...
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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Here is my Tour de France for this contest.
It's 3498.39km long (just 1610 meters within the limit :shock: )
It consists of 7 flat stages
7 medium mountain stages
6 high mountain stages
1 ITT
It has 71 KOM sprints of which 7 HC

maps/tours/view/15834
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Stage 1: NICE->NICE. 152.75km
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The first stage is pretty similar to the real first stage of 2020, but with some tweaks to make it easier and probably also more boring, anyway the sprnters will be more happy with this one.

Stage 2: NICE->NICE. 161.76km
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Same as stage 1, quite similar, but a bit easier. This one shouldn't be more boring though. Long range attacks are possible.

Stage 3: NICE->BAU DE LA SAOUPE. 221.25km
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This stage has a long long build up with 2 small climbs to warm up the climbing legs before we reach the explosive finale with th eRote des Crêtes where Vlasov won earlier this year (my god does that feel like an eternity ago), after a couple of kilometers on top we have a small descent before the short and steep Bau de la Saoupe climb

Stage 4: MARSEILLE->LUNEL. 182.79km
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A completely flat stage, nothing interesting to say about it apart from the fact that we pass the Perrier "factory".

Stage 5: SAINT-MATHIEU-DE-TRÉVIERS->POUNCHO D'AGAST. 172.47km
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We leave the coast behind and go further into the mainland of France. The GC riders won't worry about this stage and may let a big breakaway go all the way to the finish just above Millau.

Stage 6: MILLAU->LAUTREC. 165.57km
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We enter Sam Bennett terrain with this stage. A flat stage with a short uphill sprint to the line, although Ewan may be able to beat him.

Stage 7: LABRUGIÈRE->CAP RÉDERIS. 226.99km
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Another long hilly stage next to the coast. The stage starts with an almost 21km long 3% drag uphill where the brake will form and create a gap, after a rolling middle section and a rolling flat part the riders will dash up 3 hills before finishing on a sllightly uphill section next to the coast close to Spain.

Stage 8: MILLAS->LUZENAC. 144.68km
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A fairly short first mountain stage awaits the riders. It's harder than it looks on paper as the first 70km is uphill apart from some small descents and the Port de Pailhères is gruesome. Dreams of winning the Tour de France can be born or shattered in this stage.

Stage 9: FOIX->HAUTACAM. 192.19km
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A classic Pyrenees stage, flat flat flat and then a massive climb to finish it off with. Who will enter the restday with the Maillot Jaune?

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~REST DAY~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stage 10: ROYAN->LA ROCHE-SUR-YON. 163.92km
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Flashbacks to the 2018 tour with this stage as the sprinters are finally allowed to let lose again in this 2 day sprinters intermezzo.

Stage 11: LA ROCHE-SUR-YON->LE BLANC. 219.06km
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Part 2 out of 2 of the sprinters intermezzi as we go east, it's still flat, but the altitude meters start to ramp up again.

Stage 12: ARGENTON-SUR-CREUSE->LAC DE VAISSIVIÈRE. 136.22km
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This stage will still be pretty calm, but no sprinter will win here. Last time cycling visited the lake Alejandro Valverde won in front of Gerrans and Meersman, will it be a reduced sprint in the peloton or will the break prevail?

Stage 13: LAC DE VAISSIVIÈRE->SUPER-BESSE. 160.36km
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It doesn't look hard on paper, but this stage is a rollercoaster, constantly up and down in the last 60 kilometers can surprise some gc contenders.

Stage 14: COURNON D'AUVERGNE->COL DU BÉAL. 167.67km
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The riders have to conquer the mountains once again, but this time not in either the alps or the Pyrenees. A stage that would've been pretty straight forward if it wasn't for the long stretch of gravel in the middle of this stage where some gc contenders can be caught out.

Stage 15: SAINT-CHAMOND->CHABEUIL. 167.75km
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The last stage before the rest day and the last chances for sprinters untill the Champs-Elysees.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~REST DAY~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Stage 16: SAINT-NAZAIRE-EN-ROYANS->SAINT-JEAN-EN-ROYANS. 39.83km
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It's the first and last time trial of this tour, but it's quite a long one in the beautiful region just west of the Vercors.

Stage 17: SAINT-JEAN-EN-ROYANS->SANCTUAIRE DE LA SALETTE. 178.98km
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A really hard stage awaits the riders as we enter the Alps, first crossing the Vercors with the long Col d'Herbouilly, then the really hard Laffrey/Morte combo before we reach the gruesome Parquetout before finishing at the Sanctuaire de la Salette.

Stage 18: LE BOURG-D'OISANS->PRAZ-SUR-ARLY. 186.15km
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Another hard mountain stage which starts off with the Glandon and Madeleine, the race settles down after that before we reach the 42 hairpins of the Arpettaz. A quick descent follows before a sort of climb to the line.

Stage 19: FLUMET->COLLONGES. 169.12km
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A stage with the potential to be crazy, the steep croisette is too far from the line to go solo, but with good teamplay someone can create a gap.

Stage 20: COLLONGES->COL DU GRAND COLOMBIER. 167.74km
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A gruesome penultimate stage in the alps. Who will lead the Tour and arrive in Paris with the maillot jaune?

Stage 21: SENLIS->PARIS - CHAMPS-ELYSEES. 121.14km
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The annual parade for gc riders and unofficial sprinters WC is here!
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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benoît.guillot wrote: 24/08/2020, 23:36
ellvey wrote: 24/08/2020, 17:27
benoît.guillot wrote: 24/08/2020, 15:53
The col de la Loze is for now a one way passage as the road is not praticable on the downhill.

Sadly, you have choose to keep the stages praticcaly as they already are (stage 2 and 20 for example). I don't think your submission will count as the rules explicitely said that you cannot use parts or key sectors of the real Tour...
I've seen pictures of it and it seems fine for a downhill, certainly the Giro has done way more dangerous descents. It's a recently paved and reasonably wide road. Cars are not allowed in the road, but that also applies to the Méribel side

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TFSpiK-D5i4 https://www.cycling-challenge.com/col-de-la-loze/
This dates back to last year, so unless something has happened that prevents the race from going down, which certainly can happen without me knowing, as i'm not a local, i think it should be fine.

As for your second point, Emmea referenced in the first post that you couldn't reuse the key parts of the last year's Tour, but if we can't use this year's keys parts aswell, I'll happily redesign the stages in case.
Thank you for bringing your concerns to me, I appreciate it :)
Oups my bad ! Once again I misread the rules and understood that you cannot use part of Tour 2020...
Hi ! The restriction is about 2019 key parts, not about 2020 real route. Other years you could take a real stage and keep it in your personal design for the contest. So, I think you can let your entry as you did it first !
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May i make a question, Is it possible include arrives and repeatings makes on other french stage races like Criterium du Dauphine, Paris-Nice, Tour d'Occitanie, Tour de Limousin, Tour de l'Ain or part of french one-day races? That's a my curiosity about that thing.
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emilio.torre wrote: 27/08/2020, 9:16 May i make a question, Is it possible include arrives and repeatings makes on other french stage races like Criterium du Dauphine, Paris-Nice, Tour d'Occitanie, Tour de Limousin, Tour de l'Ain or part of french one-day races? That's a my curiosity about that thing.
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Tour de France 2020

Here is my track.
maps/tours/view/15983

In my version of Tour the france 2020 there are:
  • Seven flat stage
    Five medium mountain stage
    Seven high mountain stage with four MTF
    Two ITT of the lenght of 45 Km and 30 Km
Spoiler!
Stages presentation[/spoiler[/code]

Stage 1: Nice(Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)-Nice (Medium Mountain Stage-177,6 Km)
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The first stage is a hilly circuit around Nice of the lenght of 88 Km which has to be repated two times. This circuit contains three climbs: Saint Jeannet, Col de Vence and the last one Colomars, which is ten Km distant from the finish line.

Stage 2: Nice (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)-Nice (ITT-45,2 Km)
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The second stage is an ITT around Nice it contains the climb of Cote de Falicon and Col d'Eze, after these there are 15 Km of descent and flat which takes cyclist to the finish in Promenade des Anglais.

Stage 3: Nice(Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)-Digne les Bains (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur) (Flat Stage-161,4 Km)
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The third stage is a stage for the sprinter there is just one climb in this stage (Col de Toutes Aures) which is 55 km distant from the finish line, after this there is just plan for the rest of this stage.

Stage 4:Digne les Bains (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)-Mont Ventoux (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur) (High Mountain stage-170,6 Km)
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If a climber want to win the Tour de France he can't fail this stage which contains the first MTF of the tour: Mont Ventoux (Hors Categorie of 23,3 Km at 4,9 %) from Chalet Reynard. This climb is preceded some kilometres before from Signal de Lure a climb of First Categorie 17.9 Km at 5.8%.

Stage 5: Carpentras (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur)-Sainte-Maries-de-la-Mer (Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur) (Flat Stage-215,7 Km)
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This stage is completely plan and adapt for sprinter. The stage starts in Provence and finishes in Saint-Maries-de-la-Mer a town of Camargue in fron of Mediterraine Sea.

Stage 6:Aigues Mortes-Perpignan (Occitanie) (Flat Stage-218,1 Km
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This stage is completely plan except for the climb of Fourth Category Col du Souil whic is 50 Km distant from the finish line so the sprinters fight for the victory of thi stage.

Stage 7:Perpignan-Plateau de Beille (High Mountain Stage-168,4 Km
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This stage, the first of pyrenees is for climbers and present four climbs two of Second category (in the first part of the stage) and two HC: Col de Pailhères 23.4 Km al 6.1% which descent takes cyclist to the start of Plateau de Beille (Hors Catégorie, 1778 m, 15.5 Km al 7.8%).

Stage 8:Foix >Bagnères-de-Luchon(High Mountain Stage-185.87 Km
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This stage is for climbers but finish wit a descent from de climb of Port de Bales (1° Categoria, 1741 m, 18.6 Km al 6.1%) in Bagnères-de-Luchon . This stage contains in addition to the Port de Balès othe four climbs that make this stage more diffcult.

Stage 9: Bagnères-de-Luchon > Hautacam (High Mountain Stage143.00 Km
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The nineth stage is the last on pyrenees and present a MTF in Hautacam (1° Categoria, 1513 m, 15.2 Km al 7.0%) after the climb of Col de Tourmalet from la Mongie (Hors Catégorie, 2094 m, 11.2 Km al 8.8%) that can make who want to win the stage more tired before the last climb.

Stage 10: Lourdes > Lavaur (Nouvelle-Aquitaine) (Flat Stage-200.53 Km)
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The tenth stage, the last one before the first Rest Day, is quite easy and plan expect for some very short climb in the part of the stage, so the sprinters should win the stage.

Rest Day

Stage 11:Saint-Jean > Rodez (Occitanie): (Medium Mountain Stage-219.37 Km)
https://www.la-flamme-rouge.eu/maps/viewtrack/376047
This stage is Hilly and ideal who want to search the victory of stage far from finish line because there are five climbs one consequently to the other and takes cyclist to Rodez, where starts a climb of 2 Km in this city and takes to finish line.

Stage 12: Rodez > Super Lioran (Auvergne-Rhone-Alpes)(Medium Mountain Stage-147.91 Km
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This stage is similar to the last one because it presents six climbs more difficult as hte last stage. The last climb Col de Font de Cère (2° Categoria, 1291 m, 6.9 Km al 5.2%) finishes just 1,5 km before the finish line so it is decisive to decide who win the stage.

Stage 13 Saint Georges > Romans sur Isère (Flat Stage-223.68 Km
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This stage probably finish with a sprint but the sprinters have to pass some climbs before reaching Romans sur Isere, the last one is 50 km before finish line.

Stage 14:Bourg-de-Péage > Chambery (High Mountain Stage-192.97 Km
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This stage is for climbers and contains two climbs in the final circuit of 50 km: Mont du Chat (Hors Catégorie, 1467 m, 13.7 Km al 8.8%, Km 153.2) and Col de L'Epine (1° Categoria, 984 m, 7.3 Km al 7.4%), who is first at top of this last climb probably win the stage because after there are just descent and plan.

Stage 15:Chambery > Grenoble (High Mountain Stage 156.97 Km)
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This stage,the first on Alps, is a continuation of climb and descent as for alll the kilometres. There are seven climbs the last one finish 11 km before the finish line. The arrive in Grenoble is after som kilometres of descent and plan.

Stage 16:Grenoble > Annecy (High Mountain Stage 209.78 Km
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This stage is quite long and full of climbs always in Alps. It Contains climbs as Col du Glandon (1° Categoria, 1905 m, 13.2 Km al 5.3%), Col du Grand Cucheron (1° Categoria, 1196 m, 12.6 Km al 6.6%), Col du Frene (1° Categoria, 924 m, 9.2 Km al 6.9%, Km 152.1) and Cret-de-Tertére (1° Categoria, 1648 m, 12.8 Km al 5.9%) th last climbs (17 Km before finish line) before starting the descent for Annecy.

Rest Day in Annecy

Stage 17:Annecy > La Grand Colombier(High Mountain Stage 212.58 Km)
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The last one stage on the Alps starts from Annecy and arrive in La Grand Colombier (MTF, Hors Catégorie, 17.6 Km al 6.8%). This rider would pass two time in this climb the first in the start of the stage,and will be climb after some other climbs when the rider would pass in Culoz. Thi is the last High Mountain stage so if a climber want to win the Tour he has to to do well this stage.

Stage 18:Bourg En Bresse > Morez (Medium mountain Stage-121.59 Km
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This short stage is hilly, it starts in bourg en Bresse (Auvergne-Rhone-Alps) and arrive in Morez (a town in the region of Bourgogne-Franche-Comté). This stage finish line is after the climb of Col de Premanon (2° Categoria, 1285 m, 18.8 Km al 4.5%) which finist at 10 Km before the finish line.

Stage 19:Champagnole (Bourgogne-Franche-Comté)> Dijon (Bourgogne-Franche-Comté) (Flat Stage-138.51 Km)
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This stage is an occasion for the remain sprinters because it is completely flat. There are two passage on finish line because in Dijon there is a final circuit of 21 Km.

Stage 20:Dijon (Bourgogne-Franche-Comté) > Dijon: (ITT-30.41 Km)
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This indivual time trial in Dijon can change something in the final classification. This ITT present an easy climb in the first kilometres but after the track is in favour of specialised cyclist on time trial.

Stage 21:Dourdan (Île-de-France) > Paris Champs Elysees (Île-de-France)(Flat Stage-124.66 Km)
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This is the final stage of this Tour de France is the classic final walkway for the the cyclist. This sprint is most important of the entire Tour.
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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MY TOUR DE FRANCE 2020!!

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Spoiler!
I've chosen to keep the original path for the first two stages, which seem perfect to me. Then my Tour proceeds differently.

- 3489 Km
- 2 ITT STAGES
- 7 FLAT STAGES
- 5 MEDIUM MOUNTAIN STAGES (2 MTF)
- 7 HIGH MOUNTAIN STAGES (3 MTF)

30 KOM HC, 1°Cat & 2°Cat
7 HC climbs:
Montagne de Labérou (Stage 10)
Col d'Aubisque, Col du Tourmalet - Souvenir Jacques Goddet (Stage 11)
Col du Glandon, Saint François Longchamp (Stage 16)
Col de l'Arpettaz, Col du Pré (Stage 17)

The Souvenir Henry Desgrange is the Col du Petit Saint Bernard (2186 m), 1° Cat, Stage 17


STAGE 1
PLAIN **
Nice > Nice: 156.45 Km +1500 m
Tension, falls, fast wheels... The Tour begins!
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STAGE 2
HIGH MOUNTAIN ***
Nice > Nice: 186.44 Km +3600 m
Perfect stage on the paper.. But in reality?
Anyway along the Turini some big could say goodbye to the yellow dream..
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STAGE 3
PLAIN **
Cannes > Martigues: 212.36 Km +1800 m
Again sprinters.. Not without effort!
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STAGE 4
PLAIN *
Martigues > Montélimar: 185.20 Km +900 m
Flat flat flat!
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STAGE 5
MEDIUM MOUNTAIN ***
Valence > Vienne: 196.73 Km +3400 m
Puncheurs? Breakaway? Top riders? In any case a long day!
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STAGE 6
MEDIUM MOUNTAIN *** (MTF)
Montbrison > Mont Dore - Puy de Sancy: 167.50 Km +2300 m
Uphill trains and watts.. All in 3 kilometers!
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STAGE 7
PLAIN *
La Bourboule > Brive La Gaillarde: 163.56 Km +1600 m
The sprinters are welcome!
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STAGE 8
MEDIUM MOUNTAIN ***
Brive-la-Gaillarde > Cahors: 204.22 Km +2200 m
The circuit calls the puncheurs!
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STAGE 9
ITT *****
Tournon d'Agenais > Villeneuve-sur-Lot: 39.70 Km +400 m
First sentences!
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STAGE 1-9 ANALYSIS
Long week with some tricky stages.
The top riders will need to be in good shape right away and have to be careful some stages: the second one (a real mountain stage but with the top climbs far away from the arrival), the couple of MM (5 and 6) and the stage of Cahors. The time gaps will probably not be large at the end of these stages, but surprises are always possible!
For the sprinters a day really simple (stage N.4) and 3 in which they will have to sweat a little more (stage 1, 3 and 7).
The ITT from Tournon d'Agenais to Villeneuve-sur-Lot is the first decisive day of the Tour: 40 Kilometers with also a short hard climb in the middle.. the GC will have surely a new face now.


REST DAY


STAGE 10
HIGH MOUNTAIN (MTF) ****
Orthez > Montagne de Labérou: 161.05 Km +3300 m
First real top finish! Last kilometers a Paradise for the view.. the Hell for the riders!
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STAGE 11
HIGH MOUNTAIN *****
Pau > Sarrancolin: 205.32 Km +5000 m
Pyrenées, climbs, downhills, endurance.. The Tourmalet is far away but only the brave!
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STAGE 12
PLAIN *
Saint-Gaudens > Carcassonne: 180.04 Km +900 m
The quiet after the storm..
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STAGE 13
PLAIN *
Carcassonne > Perpignan: 157.60 Km +800 m
Fast wheels and.. Wind!
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STAGE 14
MEDIUM MOUNTAIN (MTF) **
Gruissan > Seynes - Guidon de Bouquet: 237.06 Km +1900 m
Breakaways and puncheurs. The last ascent lies: there is a ramp at 15%!
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STAGE 15
HIGH MOUNTAIN ****
Carpentras > Sisteron: 167.97 Km +3300 m
White sheet.. Anything can happen with the Ventoux at the start!
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STAGE 10-15 ANALYSIS
The second week starts with two deadly stages on the Pyrenées. The Montagne de Labérou has the last 3 kilometers always over 12% with a maximum slope of 18%.
The day after there is one of the two Queen stages of the Tour: a classical Pyrenaic Ride with 4 climbs but the arrival after the downhill and 5000 m of denivel!
Then 2 stages really flat for sprinters (beware of the wind on the coast!) and the longest stage (the 14th) with a irregular and narrow final ascent.
The last stage of the week is also strange: immediately the Ventoux (until Chalet Reynard), then a long intermediate section before the last climb, towards the spectacular Montagne de Lure. Not steep but very long...What will happen?


REST DAY 2


STAGE 16
HIGH MOUNTAIN (MTF) *****
Embrun > Saint François Longchamp: 206.40 Km +5200 m
Queen stage. The Alps, 200 Km, 5000 m.. The old cycling!
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STAGE 17
HIGH MOUNTAIN (MTF) *****
Albertville > Col du Petit Saint Bernard: 138.22 Km +4600 m
Short stage but look at the climbs! The new cycling..
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STAGE 18
MEDIUM MOUNTAIN **
Annecy > Besançon: 216.98 Km +2600 m
Escape take me away!!
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STAGE 19
ITT ****
Besançon > Besançon: 23.41 Km +400 m
Latest efforts for the yellow!..
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STAGE 20
HIGH MOUNTAIN ***
Vesoul > Mulhouse: 180.75 Km +3000 m
Only the brave Volume II
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STAGE 21
PLAIN *
Chantilly > Paris Champs Elysée: 102.10 Km +800 m
The glory under the Triumph..
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STAGE 16-21 ANALYSIS
The last week starts similar to the second: two decisive mountain stages, but on the Alps.
Few words for the 16th stage, the climbs are all famous and also very hard! The stage starting from Albertville is maybe more particular: short, with the demanding ascents towards the beautiful Col de l'Arpettaz and the Col du Pré and the final climb towards the Petit Saint Bernard, very very long but easier in the slopes.
After the middle mountain stage of Besançon (sure breakaways!), there is the second ITT, shorter than the first but quite demanding.
The last mountain day before the Champs Elysée is the classic stage in which all or nothing could happen: 180 Kilometers with 4 climbs, the last quite hard (the Grand Ballon from a new side), and 14 flat kilometers towards Mulhouse which will make the life complicated for the brave riders.
The final: classic epic sprint in Paris!

I hope you enjoy this Tour!

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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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Tour de France 2020 Reloaded
maps/tours/view/15986

Hi, this is my Tour for the contest. I think the real Tour has some good ideas but also some things I really not like: the only ITT in the ending, no stages can create big gaps or promote long range attack.
So, i redesigned it but keeping all the starting and ending location of every stage. Only exceptions: stage 13 that I transformed into an ITT (near Clermont Ferrand when both stage 13 and stage 14 start); stage 20 starting location, changed to respect the rule of the seven regions.
My new Tour has three ITTs, longer mountain stages with multiple climbs and a design that promote attacks even from long distance, so it's demanding but balanced.
As in real Tour, the route is very original and there are no classic and famous mountains such as Tourmalet, Galibier, Izoard, Mont Ventoux, etc., and there are six more major climbs never faced in previous Tours or in 2020. Four of them were already faced in other races (Moissière and Mont Noir in Dauphinè, Spandelles in Route du Sud and Beyrede in Route d'Occitanie - for Beyrede I added also a couple of kilometers on almost flat gravel roads that are practicable for a road bike according to ORS), other two are Col de l'Arpettaz and Ballon de Servance wich have pretty good roads.

Total high mountain stages: 8 (too much? maybe, but I removed two mountain stages of real race (stage 2 and Puy Mary) even if I classified as high mountain Orcieres-Merlette and Mont Aigoual)
Mountain top finishes: officially 5, but only 3 of them are really top finish: Orcieres-Merlette, Grand Colombier, Col de la Loze (Mont Aigoual and Villard de Lans are very very easy climbs)
Souvenir Henry Desgrange: Col de la Loze: 2226m (Stage 17)
Souvenir Jacques Goddet: Col d'Aubisque (Stage 9)
Total ITT: 84.6 Km
Sprinters stages: stage 3, 7, 10, 11, 21 for pure sprinters, stage 2, 5, 19 could see a sprint too
Total distance: 3401.77 Km

Spoiler!
Saturday - Grand Depart: Nice ITT - 14.5 Km ***
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The Tour starts with a real ITT, more than just a prologue. To be the first yellow jersey, the riders have to distribuite the effort in the double digit traits of Col des Quatre Chemins in the beginning, to ride well the bike in the tecnichal downhill and to give it all in the flat second half. All GC riders must be already in shape, but surely someone will sufffer the difficulties of this stage.
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Sunday - Stage 2: Nice - Nice - 179.5 Km **
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Starting again in Nice, this stage runs along the coast until Cannes and then goes to inland with some easy climbs.
In the middle there are the most demading climbs of the day, Cote de Aspremont to reach again Nice and then Col d'Eze, from a gentle side with a demanding finish.
Top is more than 50 Km far from the finish, but there will be a long downhill until Menton and then a lot of ups and downs on the coast. Team of sprintes who survived Eze will have difficulties in controlling the race and some punchers can escape, especially on the climb to Moyenne Corniche that is also a Bonification.
The stage visits some beautiful locations on Côte d'Azur and the finish line is again in Promenade des Anglais.


Monday - Stage 3: Nice - Sisteron - 201 Km *
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The first 100 Km of this stage has a lot of uphill, but then there is the space for the sprinter's team to reorganize and to catch the breakaway. Some easy climbs will complicate the pursuit, but in the third stage the bunch sprint will be inevitable, even if some sprinter could suffer the 2600m of denivel+.


Tuesday - Stage 4: Sisteron - Orcieres-Merlette - 142.5 Km ***
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First stage in Alps and first mountain one: in the first 100 Km there are a lot of uphill kilometers, nothing too demanding but enough to take out some domestiques (total denivel+ is 3300m). Then, Col de Moissière is the first real climb of the Tour: not an extreme climb, but early in the Tour, it will surely create selection. The last 25 kilometers are easier and will be tactically complicated: probably a small group will sprint for the victory in Orcieres-Merlette, but some GC riders could already be in trouble.
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Wednesday - Stage 5: Gap - Privas - 191.5 Km **
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Between two mountain stages, this one is easier but has an interesting ending.
In the first 150 Km the only demanding point is the top of Col de Valouse, with last 2 Km at 7%, but many sprinters are not suited to the finish so only few teams will work to control the breakaway. Then, in last 30 Km, there are the Col de la Croix de Cruas, a regular climb with no extreme slopes but still demanding, and the Cote de Saint Alban, short but with a trait at 14% and with a Bonification on top.
The battle for the stage should be interesting in the last 10 Km gentle ascending to Privas, when a small peloton will try to catch attackers before last 500m at 6%.


Thursday - Stage 6: Le Teil - Mont Aigoual - 199.5 Km ***
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Another mountain stage, in Massif Central: the ending is the same of the real stage, but the approach to Lusette is complicated by four small climbs with relevant slopes, enough to see a not too numerous peloton on the Lusette and to make this climb really selective. After a total 3470m of denivel+, the last regular climb to Mont Aigoual will determine the stage winner and the gaps between GC contenders.
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Friday - Stage 7: Millau - Lavaur - 163 Km *
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The climbers will rest in this stage between Massif Central and Pyrenees, with only a long but very easy 4th category: no way the sprinters will miss the chance.


Saturday - Stage 8: Cazeres sur Garonne - Loudenvielle - 186 Km ****
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Two Pyrenaic stages will end this difficult first week. This one is the longest, a trip on Pyrenees with a lot of climbing (denivel+ over 4000m) and a flat finish.
Firts 60 Km are flat and will se a fight to enter the breakaway and to take green jersey points in the Sprint. The first and most demanding climbs are a classic combo, Port de Bales (first HC) and Pereysourde, far from finish but very demanding; if some teams wants to make the race more selective, they can.
After some easier kilometers, the key point of the stage: Col de Beyrède, with 4 km over 10% in the middle and easier but with gravel on top. The riders have to face almost 40 km more to reach the finish line, with a very steep downhill, the regular ending part of Aspin and the last decisive and steep climb of Lançon before last flat 8 Km.
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Sunday - Stage 9: Pau - Lauruns - 155 Km ****
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Second Pyrenaic stage is shorter but not easier, with less denivel+ (3347m) but almost all concentrated in 60 Km, between start of Spandelles and top of the Aubisque.
After first 80 easy kilometers, there is only uphill and downhill: Spandelles is a demanding climb, Bordères in the middle is easier, Soulor after a very tough first week will be very selective. Something could still happen in the few flat kilometers and on the short climb to reach the top of Aubisque, then its long technical downhill will be last judge of this stage.
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Monday - Rest Day


Tuesday - Stage 10: Le Chateau d'Oleron - Saint Martin de Re - 236.5 Km **
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This stage is very similar to the original one in the first 170 Km, exposed to sea and wind with a great chance of echelons.
I added two laps around the island of Re: the stage is now the longest of the Tour and the changes of direction of the circuit (and, therefore, of the wind) and the Sprint at last lap will make the ending even more fought: even without any KOM, this stage could be decisive for GC.


Wednesday - Stage 11: Chatellailon - Poitiers - 165.5 Km *
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Very easy stage, this time every sprinter can play his cards at best in the bunch finish.


Thursday - Stage 12: Chauvigny - Sarran - 221 Km ***
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Nothing relevant unti the combo Croix du Pey / Sac au May as in real stage, but in this one there is some plan kilometers between them and the last climb is very closer to finish line. Last climb is also very steep and the last 20 Km (mostly downhill) will be very fast-paced, so an attack on Sac au May can be victorious, even if someone can even try to anticipate on Croix du Pey or in the flat between the two climbs. The last 1.5 Km have a gentle slope too.
A classic-like stage, even because of its length, when different kind of riders can battle for the victory. The winner should come from an early breakaway because next day there will be an ITT and GC riders will prefer to rest, even if someone who already has a big time gap could launch an attack on Sac au May.
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Friday - Stage 13: Panoramique des Domes ITT - 38.5 Km *****
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Again in the Massif Central with this ITT all around the volcanoes of Chaîne des Puys, starting end ending at the foothills of Puy de Dome.
The first 16 Km are very easy, even if not completely flat, then there is a gentle downhill until Mazaye and then Col de Ceyssat, gentle ascending until last 1.5 Km at 10%, followed by 2.5 Km of downhill. Until last 4 Km it's an ITT for specialist, but it will be very important to reach the steep trait of last climb with enough energy. There will be big gaps.
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Saturday - Stage 14: Clermont-Ferrand - Lyon - 224.5 Km ***
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Between two key stages for GC, this one is easier but long and tricky: after an ITT, surprises can ever happen and in first half there is a 1st category, Col du Beal from a most demanding side than in the real stage.
Col de Croix de Par is anothere selective climb that could be very dangerous: the top is almost 50 Km far from the finish line, but the chase will be very difficult because, after a long downhill, last 25 Km are in the city center with a lot of turns, narrow roads, ups and downs, with two categorized climbs with very steep traits. With or without attacks or crisis on Beal or Croix de Par, the ending will be very thrilling.
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Sunday - Stage 15: Lyon - Grand Colombier - 188.5 Km *****
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The second week ends with this very demanding mountain top finish in Jura, that comes after three over 220 Km stages and an ITT in five days.
The first 100 Km will already see a 2nd category, then the Grand Colombier is faced for first time from the Culoz side, just after a Sprint for survivor sprinters.
The climb is long and demanding even if far from finish. After some easier terrain, as in real stage, there are Col de la Biche and Grand Colombier, but I changed the sides faced for both: Biche is longer and steeper, Grand Colombier finish side is shorter and easier, but there is no flat after Biche and its steep downhill. In a stage when total denivel+ is over 4000m, there are conditions to see serious attacks even far from finish. A tough day for pure climbers.
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Monday - Rest Day


Tuesday - Stage 16: La Tour du Pin - Villard de Lans - 116 Km ****
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Alps come back in a very short mountain stage, right after rest day: a stage not too demanding, but there could be surprises. After few kilometers, there is already a small cote, followed by an irregular 2nd category with steep traits. Then, after only 60 Km, riders will face Col de Mont Noir, a long climb, already demanding in first kilometers.
After a long downhill, there is the very irrelugar climb of Gorges de la Bourne, with a max 23% and an amazing passing on Pont de la Goule Noire. Here it is also a Bonification and it's a perfect location for an attack, even more if there was battle on Mont Noir, because the remaining 10 Km are gentle ascending until Villard de Lans-Cote 2000. Last 800m are over 12%.
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Wednesday - Stage 17: Grenoble - Col de la Loze - 195.5 Km *****
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Here it is the first of two Alpin queen stages of this Tour. Both have the same ending of the real stages but much more climbing: this one has four very long climbs and 6650m of denivel+.
Mountain starts right at the beginning with Chamrousse, followed by some easy kilometers and the irregular Col du Glandon.
Then, the peloton will face the two HC category: Madeleine, almost 2000m and without any easy traits, and Col de la Loze, highest peak and most difficult top finish of the race. Maybe the GC riders will wait for last climb, but, after such a stage, the last 5 Km at 10% will be destructive.
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Thursday - Stage 18: Meribel - La Roche sur Foron - 203 Km *****
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After the very tough previous stage, only riders with great stamina and recovery can shine in this even longer one, with 5200m of denivel+ and filled up with mountains. First 30 Km are easy, then the first one is the long Comet de Roselend, almost reaching 2000m.
Then, the race could already explode because there is no more flat and Bisanne and Arpettaz are very demanding climb, filled with hairpin bends and double digit traits. Col des Aravis is regular but not much easier and will be a tactically complicated moment.
Last serious attacks can be launched on the ascending to Plateau of Glières, extremely steep, with a gravel road on top and a very steep downhill too. Col des Fleuries will only determine final gaps before Roche sur Foron. This will be the last chance to accumulate advantage before last ITT.
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Friday - Stage 19: Bourg en Besse - Champagnole - 190 Km **
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This stage could be a break day for GC riders, but must not be understimate: it comes after three very tough days and there is very little flat, with a first half really full of climbs when there will be battle to enter the breakaway and to make KOM points. Then there are another 2nd category and a cote before an easier but not flat ending.
It's a stage very suited for breakaway because the chase will be difficult in such a route and maybe even a GC rider can make a trick team move.


Saturday - Stage 20: Le Thillot - La Planche de Belle Filles ITT - 30.5 Km *****
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The GC will be decide in this demanding stage in the Vosges: gentle climb, downhill, steep climb - the residual energy will be much more important than ITT attitude.
The effort distribution will also be a key factor, since Ballon de Servance can be divided in three parts (first 3 Km at 6%, more gentle up to the intermediate, irregular in the ending with a max slope of 12%) and also PDBF is much more steep in first half. The first half of Servance downhill is very steep, so the downhill attitude and even the recklessness will be relevant too.
An ITT when big gaps can still be made... Giro 2000 had a similar ITT in Stage 20 and the GC were revoluzionited!
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Sunday - Stage 21: Mantes la Jolie - Paris - 121 Km *
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Classical ending stage, I keep the original one... Last sprints for green and pois jerseys, bunch finish in Champs Élysées, podium in front of Arc du Triomphe!
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kanon16 wrote: 29/08/2020, 17:17 MY TOUR DE FRANCE 2020!!

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Best of the best so far ! You'll have my vote !!! Congrats
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Here is my Tour de France 2020 : maps/tours/view/15972

There will be 7 high mountain stage, three middle mountain stages, two individuel time-trials and between 5 to 7 stages for sprinters, even if, sometimes, it not will be easy for them to win. But nobody says that these stages must be offered to them. Two new top finish summit, in Les Allues and at the top of the col de la Croix-de-Fer.

Spoiler!
Stage 1 : Nice – Nice, 192 km

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The sprinters will have to fight with baroudeurs to win the first yellow jersey. The start will be tough with, in particular, the rise of Utelle (5.8km at 7.6%) but there will then be 136km left for the peloton to come back to the breakaway. It should be noted that the riders will complete two laps of a generally flat circuit, despite the Côte des Colles (2km at 5.5%).


Stage 2 : Nice – Nice, 143,5 km

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First important day for the leaders, who could already waste time this Sunday. First very big climb of the Tour, the Turini (15km at 7%) is certainly far from the finish (87km remaining) but there will not be a flat meter remaining. Behind will follow the famous Col de Braus (1st cat) and the Col des Quatre Chemins (3rd cat), only separated from the mysterious and difficult Mur de Bégude (600m at 11%) and Côte du Reboisat (4km at 8.3%) . Enough to create the first gaps!


Stage 3 : Cannes – Marseille, 244,5 km

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Like the first stage, sprinters and barouders will fight for the stage victory. This time, on paper, the advantage will be for barouders with the long ascent (7.3km at 3.4%) of Castelet (3rd cat) at 47km from the finish of what will be the longest stage of the Tour.


Stage 4 : Aix-en-Provence – Vaison-la-Romaine, 199 km

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First big mountain stage with not only one climb of Mont Ventoux but two ! After a first category climb with the Col de Liguiéré (11.2km at 6.3%), the peloton will first face the Mont Ventoux via the uneven slope of Sault (24.5km at 4.9%) before descending a first time via Malaucène and come back to climb the more famous one of Bédoin (20.6 km at 7.6%) whose summit will be located only 31 km from the finish.


Stage 5 : Orange – Montpellier, 156,5 km

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Massive sprint expected in Montpellier, at the end of the flattest stage of this Tour de France. But beware of the risk of echelons in the final, especially in the fifteen kilometers after La Grande
Motte.


Stage 6 : Béziers – Carcassonne, 184,5 km

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This time the breakaway will most likely go to the end. In any case, it is not the sprinters who will fight for victory on this medium mountain stage with three climbs on the program. If these are not hard enough to see the favorites move, an outsider could in particular take advantage of Mont Simel (7.2km at 6.4%), whose top is 26km from the finish.


Stage 7 : Narbonne – Gruissan Plage, 28,5 km (ITT)

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This is the first of the two time trials on this Tour de France. Overall flat, not very long, the main difficulty of this time-trial will mainly be the wind, which could play a role in the second part of the route. Ideal for creating gaps before the Pyrenees.


Stage 8 : Perpignan - Plateau de Beille, 170 km

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The Tour enters the Pyrenees with a big mountain stage marked by three climbs and a difficult summit finish, at the Plateau de Beille. A 15km climb at 8% perfect for a fight between the favorites, especially with the Col de Jau (1st cat) and the Col de Pailhères (HC) in the legs.


Stage 9 : Tarascon-sur-Ariège – Saint-Girons, 185,5 km

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On the eve of the first day of rest, another beautiful mountain stage with five passes on the menu. The difference should be made in particular in the famous Latrape-Agnès sequence but above
all in the new climb, the Col de la Crouzette (1st cat) and its last 2 km at 12% ! With 19km remaining, this is the opportunity to go on the attack.

REST AND TRANSFERT

Stage 10 : Bordeaux – Rochefort, 211 km

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A flat stage for start the second week. So a massive sprint ? Not so sure, because the road will be majority of the time next to the littoral and so, exposed to the possible wind. Whatever its direction, i twill be echelons at a moment. But it’s also possible that nobody want create it and that massive sprint happens in Rochefort.


Stage 11 : Saint-Maixent-l’Ecole – Tours, 218 km

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For the first time in its history, the Tour de France will use white gravel roads. Used on the occasion of Paris-Tours, the five sectors presents in the last 33 kms should stretch the peloton and cause breaks. Without forgetting the risk of punctures. Guaranteed show!


Stage 12 : Château de Chambord – Auxerre, 182 km

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Except the côte de Toucy (2km à 5%), 20km far from the finish, nothing seems capable of avoiding a massive sprint.


Stage 13 : Auxerre – Dijon, 204 km

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Another day for the puncheurs on the road to Dijon with no less than 7 short but steep climbs in the last 80 kms. The sequence of the Mur de Sombernon (1.2km at 10.3%), the Côte de Savigny (2.1km at 9.8%) and the Côte du Château du Blaisy-Haut (1.2km at 11, 1%) will do immense damage.


Stage 14 : Beaune – Plans d’Hotonne, 195,5 km

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If the peloton returns to the middle mountains on the occasion of this 14th stage in the Jura, baroudeurs will be more in the spotlight than the favorites with a light program. The Col de Colliard (8km at 6%) will be the main climb of the day but victory should be decided in the final climb of the Plans d'Hotonnes and its 4.5km at 6.1% including passages at 13%.


Stage 15 : Bellegarde-sur-Valserine – Rumilly, 103,5 km

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The Jura in the spotlight like never before one the Tour de France ! This second week will end with a 100% jurassian stage, very short and difficult. Four 1st category climbs will be at the menu, with the Col de Richemond (9.4km at 5.6%) but especially the Col de la Biche (6.1km at 9.3%), the Lacets du Grand Colombier (6.5km at 9.2%) and the Col du Clergeon (9km at 8.2%), the top of which will be 24km from the finish. Crazy day expected!

REST AND TRANSFERT TO BOURG-EN-BRESSE

Stage 16 : Bourg-en-Bresse – Lyon, 154,5 km

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Often arrived for punchers or for a breakaway, Lyon should not escape a massive arrival this time. Very flat, this 16th stage will offer a perfect playground for sprinters along the Parc de la Tête d'Or.


Stage 17 : Lyon-La Duchère – Décines-Charpieu Groupama Stadium, 31,3 km (ITT)

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After having been the arrival of a the precedent stage, Lyon this time set off the start of a very important time-trial in the race for final victory. The 31kms should allow rollers to place themselves ideally before the Alps. From La Duchère to Décines, the riders will offer themselves a part of the history of Olympique Lyonnais, with a passage in front of the old stadium, in Gerland, and an arrival in the new one, at Groupama Stadium.


Stage 18 : Grenoble – Col de la Croix-de-Fer, 181 km

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First stage in the Alps with a very high mountain stage and an unprecedented finish beyond the Col du Galibier, highest pass of the 2020 Tour de France. After La Chambre, the peloton will climb directly with a well-known ascent where the Tour de France had never arrived, the Col de la Croix-de-Fer. With its 23.9km at 6.8% and a very irregular slope, there is everything to witness a big fight between the favorites.


Stage 19 : Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne – Les Allues, 125 km

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Short stages in the high mountains often offer a spectacle and this one should not escape the rule with two big climbs, the Madeleine by its hardest slope (19km à 8%), and the unprecedented Col de la Loze (24km à 7,5%) which should serve as a springboard to launch major offensives before the final, shorter climb (6km à 7,6%) to Les Allues. It will be the last finish at the top.


Stage 20 : Bourg Saint-Maurice – Ugine, 121,5 km

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Last opportunity to overturn the general classification and the stage feats perfectly to it. The peloton will face the long (19km at 6%) Cormet de Roselend cold, before continuing with a double ascent of the difficult climb of Bisanne, climbed by its classic southern slope (12.5km at 8%) then by the new on the north side (14km at 7.5%) before returning to Ugine via the Forclaz de Queige (3.5km at 8.3%). Very tough stage, decrescendo, to favorize attack from far away.


Stage 21 : Rambouillet-Château – Paris Champs-Elysées, 112 km

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Last classic stage, starting from the Château de Rambouillet to reach the Champs-Elysées through some coasts of the Chevereuse Valley. But the massive sprint seems inevitable.
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Hello everyone !

There is my route for the Tour de France 2020 contest : maps/tours/view/16027. It contains :
- 3469 km.
- 9 flat stages with 1 uphill finish.
- 4 medium mountain or hilly stages.
- 7 mountain stages with 5 MTF.
- 1 mountain ITT.
- 76 KoM sprints : 8 HC, 13 1st, 14 2nd, 24 3rd and 17 4th.

It goes through 7 French regions : PACA, Occitanie, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Normandie and Ile-de-France.
I tried to keep the spirit created by ASO for this Tour, with rural cities and new places to visit. Innovation is a clue in this year's route, this what I like in Tour de France and I wanted to continue on this way for my route. This is why I kept many key points which are really in the route this year. From Nice (and the two real first stages), it goes to the Southern Alps, then to Cévennes and Pyrénées in the first week. The second week goes from the Atlantic Coast to Bugey and the third one has 3 mountain stages in Northern Alpes and the real ITT of this Tour de France 2020. My route is about to make the yellow jersey's owner change quite everyday by playing with topography and distances.

Stages and explanations in spoiler.
Spoiler!
1. Nice -> Nice. Flat. 156km.
You all know this one, it is the real first stage of this TDF 2020. I kept it because I found it nice to begin and no too selective to offer the first yellow jersey to a sprinter, what is not too often in the Tour.
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2. Nice -> Nice. Medium Mountain. 186km.
This second stage is also the real second stage of the official route. As a first show in the mountains, it is a fine way to begin and to have a second yellow jersey in two days. Puncheurs will have it !
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3. Nice -> Manosque. Flat. 217km.
To go to the Southern Alps, riders will have a nice route in direction of Manosque. With some points to get for the polka dot jersey, sprinters should however take to win after coming from Digne with a back wind : be careful of echelons.
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4. Sisteron -> Super Dévoluy. Medium Mountain. 150km.
Instead of a unique climb to Orcières, which is not too difficult, I prefer the riders to go to Super Dévoluy, another ski resort. After having climbed col de Manse, col du Noyer is on the route with irregular slopes and a bonus point at the top. The final climb is not that difficult but GC contenders can move earlier in the stage. Maybe another yellow jersey there ! Surely nice points of view with a shot near from Serre-Ponçon lake.
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5. Gap -> Caverne du Pont d'Arc. Flat. 209km.
Leaving the Alps has never been easy. :lol: There, it is the exact opposite. Downhill day until Ardèche : two 4th category climbs to finish the stage. The arrive is the same as 2016's ITT. Once again, between sprinters and puncheurs, there will be a game !
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6. Antraigues-sur-Volane -> Mont Aigoual. Medium Mountain. 205km.
I kept the concatenation Lusette-Aigoual for one reason : I dreamt of it in the Tour for years ! The start-city is the one of Jean Ferrat, French singer who died just 10 years ago. We can see it as a tribute. For the route, it is a bit more difficult than the original stage, firstly because the stage is longer and secondly because of the two more climbs I put on the route. The wind will then have less importance during the race, except on the top section to Mont-Aigoual.
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7. Lodève -> Carcassonne. Flat. 148km.
Not a lot to say here, a short stage for sprinters, or to rest before the Pyrénées storm. The arrive is the same as when Cort Nielsen won.
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8. Mirepoix -> Peyragudes - Altiport. Mountain. 188km.
There may be the first battle between GC contenders, in a place well-known by Romain Bardet. I kept both Balès and Peyresourde but I choose to finish on the altiport for its very hard slope and the images it shows. The Peyresourde route will not be the traditional one as the riders will climb a little road through Portet-de-Luchon, keeping 1.5km on the bottom and 2km on the top of the habit route. A bonus is set on the top of Balès.
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9. Loudenvielle -> Luz-Saint-Sauveur. Mountain. 113km.
This one is shorter and harder. It is a concentration of climbs with Azet, Hourquette, east-side of Tourmalet and Trabaou, where will be a bonus point. Big day for the polka dot jersey. Let's see the battle !
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REST DAY

10. Île de Ré — Saint-Martin-de-Ré -> Île d'Oléron — Phare de Chassiron. Flat. 163km.
You cannot draw a more flat stage. Basically drawn for sprinters, there will be some wind all day long, so everyone will have to be ready. I wanted to switch the islands only because I prefer Oléron to Ré, and because Oléron is longer and harder to manage in my opinion.
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11. Saintes -> Saint-Léonard-de-Noblat. Flat. 208km.
This is another long stage designed for sprinters but a breakaway could take the win in a special city : Saint-Léonard-de-Noblat is where Raymond Poulidor lived from 1961 to his death in 2019. This is the second tribute stage of this Tour de France. The 10 last km are hilly but not enough to drop sprinters, not even easy to manage to come back on the escape.
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12. Guéret -> Tulle. Hilly. 177km.
Welcome to the middle of the country ! Between Guéret, start-city for the second time in the Tour, and Tulle, known for being the city of the former French president François Hollande, it will be a kind of rollercoaster in which a breakaway could take the win. GC contenders could attack in the last climb of the day which has its top with 3km to go and a bonus point there.
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13. Sarran -> Puy Mary — Cantal. Mountain. 221km.
Massif Central is known for Puy de Dôme, but have you heard about Puy Mary ? Of course you did ! I wanted to keep it from the original route to mine because I find that idea really fine ! To make the stage bigger and harder, the route follows 11 climbs with 3 in the last 20km, including a bonus point on the top of col de Néronne. About 4800m D+. The start is done from Sarran, where is set the Jacques Chirac museum. This is the third and last tribute of this route.
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14. Vichy -> Lyon. Flat. 163km.
A quite short stage to go to the second city of the country, Lyon. By following some climbs, it stays a quite easy stage in which sprinters could take the win if they are not dropped in the last 3 climbs which are not too hard. Before the Bugey and the Alps, a breakaway has its chance.
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15. Bourgoin-Jallieu -> Grand Colombier. Mountain. 117km.
Hard day in Bugey : short stage and 3 hard climbs. I found it more interesting to have a finish on the top of Grand Colombier by Virieu's side as it is the hardest of the four. Almost 10km with almost 10%, it is nearly as difficult as Zoncolan and I like it. Maybe big gaps at the end.
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REST DAY

16. La Côte-Saint-André -> Grenoble. Mountain. 150km.
Not the hardest way to enter the Alps but Vercors has interesting routes to take for a stage. I did not want to keep the arrive in Villars-de-Lans as I find it to evident there. Putting a bonus point on the top of Palaquit is, in my opinion, a good way to highlight the climb.
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17. Pontcharra -> Méribel — Col de la Loze. Mountain. 131km.
Another short stage with 3 climbs : Grand-Cucheron, Madeleine and Loze. I wanted to keep this latter because it is THE key point of the 2020 edition of the Tour de France. By shortening the stage, we could have one more climb and then, more possibilities for the race.
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18. Méribel -> Samoëns 1600. Mountain. 192km.
With about 4800m D+, this is the last mountain stage before the final TT in Vosges and the last opportunity to put the rouleurs behind ! After 38 flat km, there won't be flat anymore. Riders will climb Glières again after 2018 and go through Arve valley by climbing Saxonnex. Finally, the battle between GC contenders will happen in Giffre mountains, which never happened in the Tour. Before the hard climb to Plateau des Saix, there will an opportunity to anticipate when going to Morillon and with a technical downhill.
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19. Bourg-en-Bresse -> Besançon. Flat. 179km.
Before the last battle for the GC, the penultimate battle for the green jersey. Let's enjoy the sprint !
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20. Lure -> Planche des Belles Filles. ITT. Medium Mountain. 36,2km.
Last fight to win the Yellow War, you all know this route. I adore it, this is why I kept it in my route.
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21. Vernon -> Paris — Champs Élysées. Flat. 150km.
Champagne. Paris. Champs Élysées. Champagne again. Anne Hidalgo and bicycles everywhere. See you next year !
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Hope you will enjoy it ! I really liked what I've already seen in this contest !

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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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TourDeFranceGO wrote: 27/08/2020, 23:50 The route starts with similar stages to the two in the real Grand Depart, however I didn't include the Col de la Colmiane in favour of a really steep Col d'Eze. Mont Faron is the first summit finish on stage 3. The race then heads to Montpellier before stages 5 and 6 go over rugged terrain in southern pyrenees. Stage 7 boasts the first TT while stages 8 and 9 serve as the first true mountain stages, with a summit finish at Puy de Dome and a finish at Le Lioran.
It might not be possible to make MTF at Puy de Dome because local authorities have built railway tack on the final section of this road. Mont Faron could be too narrow for TDF.

A few questions to contest organizers:
[*]Will contestants get penalized or disqualified if they put impracticable/impossible finishes or impracticable roads?
[*]Should be stage starts or finishes commercially feasible?
[*]Should we report if we spot irregularities of such kind? Will contest organizers check all of the routes?
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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Bocmanis82 wrote: 02/09/2020, 22:49
TourDeFranceGO wrote: 27/08/2020, 23:50 The route starts with similar stages to the two in the real Grand Depart, however I didn't include the Col de la Colmiane in favour of a really steep Col d'Eze. Mont Faron is the first summit finish on stage 3. The race then heads to Montpellier before stages 5 and 6 go over rugged terrain in southern pyrenees. Stage 7 boasts the first TT while stages 8 and 9 serve as the first true mountain stages, with a summit finish at Puy de Dome and a finish at Le Lioran.
It might not be possible to make MTF at Puy de Dome because local authorities have built railway tack on the final section of this road. Mont Faron could be too narrow for TDF.

A few questions to contest organizers:
[*]Will contestants get penalized or disqualified if they put impracticable/impossible finishes or impracticable roads?
[*]Should be stage starts or finishes commercially feasible?
[*]Should we report if we spot irregularities of such kind? Will contest organizers check all of the routes?
1) It should be up to people that voting, but we can submit penalties
2) What do you mean for commercially feasible?
3) Yes, it's possible to report. We won't check routes.
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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

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TOUR DE FRANCE 2020

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3456.42 Km
6 high mountain (3 MTF)
6 medium mountain (1 MTF)
7 flat
2 individual time trials (1 MTF)
70 KOM (7 HC)

Regions crossed (in order): Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Occitanie, Nouvelle Aquitaine, Auvergne Rhône-Alpes, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Grand Est, Île-de-France

I decided to keep the direction of the route the same as this year's edition of the Grand Boucle, passing by all of the 5 French montain chains. I also tried to keep the same philosophy, so even though there are two time trials, the total ITT Kms is only 9 more; the other terrains have been mostly kept the same, too, though trying to make stages more interesting, and following a more challenging route.
Spoiler!
STAGE 1
Saturday 29/8
Nice > Nice, 173.87 Km, flat, D+ 1311 m

Easier start than the actual Tour de France, with less slippery descents, but with a route more prone to lateral wind. The first Maillot Jaune should go, nonetheless, to a sprinter.

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STAGE 2
Sunday 30/8
Nice > Nice, 162.50 Km, medium mountain, D+ 2657 m

Here, too, the route has been changed, with 3 KOM instead of 2 in the last 50 Kms and an easier first part, to not rule out puncheurs who suffer long climbs.

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STAGE 3
Monday 31/8
Grasse > Aix-En-Provence, 184.34 Km, flat, D+ 1459 m

A stage for sprinters, who must be careful to the last kilometer and a half (which have a slight positive slope).

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STAGE 4
Tuesday 1/9
Arles > Aérodrome de Mende - Brenoux, 216.52 Km, medium mountain, D+ 3167 m

GC riders will surely be in action in this interesting stage. Not only the last ascent to the Aérodrome de Mende - Brenoux (followed by a 1.5 Km plateau), but also the Col du Pré de la Dame (climbed for the first time in the Tour's history) will pose a threat to the riders.

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STAGE 5
Wednesday 2/9
Mende > Béziers, 207.81 Km, flat, D+ 1600 m

Last chance for spinters in the first week of the Tour, with a track that goes towards the Southern coast after a hilly first part.

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STAGE 6
Thursday 3/9
Béziers > Col de Mantet, 183.25 Km, high mountain, D+ 2249 m

Here's the first mountain top finish of the Grand Boucle, in the first high mountain stage: only one KOM, but brutal, the previously unseen Col de Mantet (first HC of the Tour, 19.5 Km, 6.5%).

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STAGE 7
Friday 4/9
Prades > Tarascon-Sur-Ariège, 151.46 Km, medium mountain, D+ 2487 m

Stage that favours brave attackers, as brakeaways have a strong chance in this Pyrenean course. The final 26 flat Km will certainly have a say on who will cross the finish line first.

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STAGE 8
Saturday 5/9
Foix > Bagnères-De-Luchon, 191.52 Km, high mountain, D+ 4420 m

The queen of the Pyrenees, it keeps a similar route to the original stage (with Col de Menté and Col de Balès), but ending in Bagnères-de-Luchon, before the Peyresourde, so that the hardest climb of the day, Col de Balès, is the last one, too.

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STAGE 9
Sunday 6/9
Saint-Gaudens > Lannemezan, 32.75 Km, individual time trial, D+ 238 m

A flat (apart from a short section in the middle, before the intermediate results will be taken in Saint-Laurent-De-Neste) ITT will test the riders' energy before the first rest day. A new leader may be expected on the podium.

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REST DAY
Monday 7/9

STAGE 10
Tuesday 8/9
Bergerac > Limoges, 188.77 Km, flat, D+ 1482 m

Benevolent restart for the riders in a stage that will mostly cross flat terrains, but with a constant slight slope. Two 4th category KOMs in the last 20 Kms will spice things up, but a group sprint is the most likely outcome of the stage.

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STAGE 11
Wednesday 9/9
Limoges > Sarran Corrèze, 170.93 Km, medium mountain, D+ 2257 m

A hilly stage awaits the peloton, with the most difficult asperity being the 2nd category Suc au May (3.8 Km, 6.9%), to be climbed twice. The last 4 Km have a constant upwards slope (2.5% average gradient).

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STAGE 12
Thursday 10/9
Tulle > Le Lioran, 195.04 Km, medium mountain, D+ 3410 m

The finish in the skiing resort of Le Lioran represents a opportunity for GC riders to surprise rivals in this tough Massif Central stage with 8 categorized climbs. Fireworks to be expected.

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STAGE 13
Friday 11/9
Brioude > Vienne, 206.36 Km, flat, D+ 1948 m

After a first hilly section, the 13th stage gives a good opportunity to sprinters to seize victory. Stage seekers will need to work hard to gain enough gap in the first part, if they want to stand a chance. Grimpeurs will rest their legs before the terrible weekend.

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STAGE 14
Saturday 12/9
Grenoble > L'Alpe d'Huez, 128.37 Km, high mountain, D+ 3945 m

One of the most iconic climbs of the Tour will host the ending of this very hard stage: in L'Alpe d'Huez, the fifth KOM of the day, the race for the Maillot Jaune will start to heat up.

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STAGE 15
Sunday 13/9
Le Bourg-D'Oisans > Meribel - Col de la Loze, 215.96 Km, high mountain, D+ 4241 m

The Tour welcomes the Col de la Loze (this year's Souvenir Henri Desgrange), second consecutive mountain top finish and highest pass of this tour, in what can be considered the queen stage of the Tour: the historic Col de la Madeleine will be also climbed. With two HC climbs in the day right after L'Alpe d'Huez, riders will need to be careful to dose their energy correctly, to not lose the chance to win the Grand Boucle.

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REST DAY
Monday 14/9

STAGE 16
Tuesday 15/9
Chamonix-Mont-Blanc > Morzine, 152.54 Km, high mountain, D+ 3362 m

Last day in the Alps for the peloton, with the third consecutive high mountain stage. Two HC will be climbed: the Col de La Ramaz and the Col de Joux Plane. Another fantastic day of cycling. Will history be made in Morzine this year?

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STAGE 17
Wednesday 16/9
Thanon-Les-Bains > Giron, 147.32 Km, medium mountain, D+ 3112 m

Another mountain stage, though in the Jura, and with less terrible slopes. While stage victory may go to the brakeaway, GC riders can try to attack on the Col de Menthières (where bonus seconds are at stake) on the Côte de Champfromier, before the short descent and the last two uphill kilometers towards Giron.

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STAGE 18
Thursday 17/9
Bourg-En-Bresse > Lure, 234.76 Km, flat, D+ 1230 m

The longest stage of this Tour connects the Jura mountains to the Vosges, and will probably end in a bunch sprint, as long as the sprinters' teams have enough energy left.

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STAGE 19
Friday 18/9
Saint-Maurice-Sur-Moselle > Col du Petit Drumond, 12.08 Km, individual time trial, D+ 528 m

The final uphill ITT in the Vosges has been kept, though with a much shorter flat section (just the first 6 Km this time). Grimpeurs should be able to defend themselves in this terrain. The Tour will climb the Col du Petit Drumond for the first time.

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STAGE 20
Saturday 19/9
Belfort > Le Markstein, 183.98 Km, high mountain, D+ 4248 m

The last chance for riders to change the GC and to win this year's Tour de France will take place in the Vosges: six climbs, with three 1st category KOMs, will decide who will wear the yellow jersey in Paris.

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STAGE 21
Sunday 20/9
Rambouillet > Paris - Champs-Élysées, 116.29 Km, flat, D+ 479 m

The classic ending to the Tour will begin in front of Rambouillet's castle, and will give the winner's team to celebrate the victory and the sprinters a last chance for glory.

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