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Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

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Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 18/01/2018, 10:07

Contest #1 - Tour Down Harder (Category 2)

Sorry for the bad joke of words in the title, but the Contest #1 consists exactly into that.

Finally, Tour Down Under organization decide to improve the route drawing a route that suits better the climbers like Quintana but is also balanced to permit to compete also to time triallist like Dumoulin.

You are called to redesign Tour Down Under making an harder and better route. You have to keep the format of a six day World Tour race with an end in one of the biggest city of South Australia. You can choose for the finish one between Adelaide, Melbourne, Canberra and Sidney. Of course, you have to insert a time trial in the route.

Deadline will be on saturday, February 10, h 23.59 Rome time.

You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 5 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.

Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus

Good luck anyone

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Please ALL use a "Tour de France" style. Choose the one you want between the TDF Family (Tour, Nice, Liege, Roubaix etc) but the important is that everyone uses the same style so will be easier to compare the races between users

You can also add your climbs in the presentation in the topic.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Paganini » 18/01/2018, 13:47

Wonderful news!
Obviously, I'm in :babbo: :babbo:
I choose Melbourne as a finishing city, and I book a summit finish in Baw Baw :pact:

A question: do the stage have to be quite short like the original TDA?

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 18/01/2018, 15:50

Paganini wrote:
18/01/2018, 13:47
Wonderful news!
Obviously, I'm in :babbo: :babbo:
I choose Melbourne as a finishing city, and I book a summit finish in Baw Baw :pact:

A question: do the stage have to be quite short like the original TDA?
The only rules to respect are the UCI rules. Is up to who will vote to decide that, but it won't cause you a penalty from jury.
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 18/01/2018, 16:09

Just forgot

Please ALL use a "Tour de France" style. Choose the one you want between the TDF Family (Tour, Nice, Liege, Roubaix etc) but the important is that everyone uses the same style so will be easier to compare the races between users

You can also add your climbs in the presentation in the topic.
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by simone.galbiati » 18/01/2018, 17:58

maps/tours/view/8074

This is my route.
Stage 1 is a flat ITT of 20kms which suits cronomen.
Stage 2 ends with a medium-easy uphill finish
Stage 3 has no flat and a tricky final
Stage 4 is mainly flat with the wall of Paracombe in the final
Stage 5 is 4 time Willunga Hill, with the last one as stage finish
Stage 6 will be a sprint in Adelaide, bit two short climbs and a long descent is in the menu.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by lorenzo.ciconte » 18/01/2018, 22:54

My tour Down Harder
maps/tours/view/8085

Stage 1 presents 50 km of dirt roads that end 7 km before the finish line in Moruya, turns and rompepiernas climbs are featured also in this section, definitely a stage for riders like Sagan, Trentin and local hero Matthews |tev
Stage 2 suites breakaways and classics hunters once again, sprinters will have to overcome multiple climbs before having their chance :angry:
Stage 3 is completely flat but echelons can be a factor, GC contenders are advised tafazzi
stage 4 is the queen stage: Baw Baw mountain is a Vuelta-like climb with sections at 17% of gradient, pure climbers like Quintana or Bardet are the ones to watch; |ghirar
stage 5 is an another GC day: pure climbers have to distance guys like Dumoulin, Kelderman or Nibali beacuse there's a flat time trial looming :stupore:
stage 6 is the day of reckoning, 20 km in the centre of Melbourne with only 20 turns, big engines will dominate this one

2 stages for classics hunters
1 stage for pure sprinters
1 mountaintop finish
1 mountain stage with downhill and flat finish
1 TT
0 boredom

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Paganini » 18/01/2018, 23:39

(Post to be updated)
My map:
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maps/tours/view/8131
Features:
  • [/b]23 km ITT
  • 2 sprinter stages
  • 1 summit finish (Baw Baw)
  • 1 dirty road stage (ca. 25 km )
  • 1 medium mountain stage
  • At least 6 weird stage names :mrgreen:
Nicer profiles with the new LFR style:
Spoiler!
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Stage 1
Melbourne -> Melbourne (ITT)
23 km
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The Tour Down Harder 2018 begins with the only Time Trial of the race: the length of the test is rather significant for a week-long race (23 km) and will force pure climbers to the fore in the following days.
Many landmarks of the city are visited: the beach, from which the race takes its start, the Olympic Park, the Albert Park with the scenic ride around the lake, the Carlton Parl with the passage near the Royal Exhibition Building

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Albert Park
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Royal Exhibition Building
Stage 2
Melbourne (Olympic Park) -> Boronia
154 km
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The first rendez-vous for the GC men. After a first easy section looming the Melbourne Bay (beware of possible crosswinds) the climbing fun begins with the 50-km circuit around Boronia: the first climb to Olinda is the longest of the stage but also the easiest, and will serve only to eliminate the heavier men in the peloton.
Much harder is the second difficulty: only 600 meters averaging 15% on a wide street so similar to the Jenkin Road used in the 2014 TDF. The last hill is a little less steep (still averaging 9% tough) but almost 2 km long. The top of the hill is placed at -14, divided in 4 descending kms, a very tortuous section and a 2-km long straight line to the finish

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Stage 3
Yarra Glen -> Alexandra
126 km
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An easy stage that won't move the GC in any means before the last two important stages.

Stage 4
Alexandra -> Baw Baw
178 km
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The only summit finish of the race is a very hard one: here the purest climbers will have to go full gas in order to distance ITT men. Baw Baw has plenty of space for hosting a summit finish

Stage 5
Warragul -> Traralgon
246 km
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Not as hard as the previous one, but this stage could be decisive for a number of factors: the length, the numerous up and downs but mostly the 28 km of gravel road, all in rather good conditions (see Streetview).
After the short and hard Silcocks Hill mid-stage the main dish is undoubtedly the long, rising gravel sector in the Tarra Bulga Park: the slopes are easy but the gravel, the heat and the length of the stage could make the difference. After the top there are 33 kms that could favor regroupings.


Stage 3
Korumburra -> Melbourne
120 km
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A tranquil, sprinter-friendly finale in Melbourne.
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 18/01/2018, 23:57

To get the 2 points bonus, you must provide descriptions posting also images of profiles and/or climbs in topic

Example

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Global description

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Stage 1: XXX > YYY
[Stage 1 profile]
Stage 1 description

Stage 2: XXX > YYY
[Stage 2 profile]
Stage 2 description

etc.

Example of stage presentations: sala-mostre-f308/corse-mike4296-t6880.html
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Crisborto11 » 19/01/2018, 13:22

maps/tours/view/8088
il mio tour down under

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Belgian4444 » 19/01/2018, 23:10

Full route: maps/tours/view/8086

A varied route around Melbourne should give some fun racing early in the season. The stages aren't very long, which should also aid the riders with an attacking mentality.

Stage 1: Geelong - Mount Macedon

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We start of in Geelong for our trip in the state of Victoria. The route to the North is fairly mixed and ends with a trip though Macedon regional park. To create some gaps in the GC standing, the finish is on top of Mount Macedon. Not the hardest climb (max. is around 7,5%), so differences won't be big. Explosive hill specialists/climbers should find their chance for victory here.

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Geelong

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Macedon regional park with Mount Macedon.

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Stage 2: Wallan - Alexandra

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A stage where a sprinter with some climbing talent could take it. While being a bit more than half the distance of Mount Macedon, Eucalypt Ridge provides some higher percentages (above 10% at times). So hanging on is the key for any sprinter who wants to have a shot to get (probably) their first victory of the season. But a strong attack could also succeed...

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Lake Eildon

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Stage 3: Alexandra - Mount Buller

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Anyone who wants to be on top of the standings in Melbourne will have to make a move here. Especially climbers who lack TT skills. Mount Buller is the main setting of this stage and provides a 15km climb going up to 1582m. With 6,1% on average, it's certainly not easy, yet attackers should find some opportunities on the flatter sections.

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Mount Buller

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Stage 4: Mansfield - Nagambie

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The sprint stage of the tour, basically flat, at least for the most of the route. A bit of a rest for the GC riders, so they're well prepared for the final stages.

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Lake Nagambie


Stage 5: Seymour - Healesville

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The final opportunity for hill specialists. Some early moves can be made at the Dom Dom Road, but saving your energy for Mount Donna Buang might be the better option. An attack on this climb, combined with some downhill skill could bring large rewards.

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Mount Donna Buang

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Stage 6: Melbourne (ITT)

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The final stage is an ITT, staring at the Trinity college sports complex, set in Melbourne and quite interesting: the riders with lots of power will like the first part before entering Bellbird Park & Studley Park, where the road will provide some technical challenges. When the riders are out of the parks, it's back on for the power riders with a straight of more than 3km. The finish is set near the Rod Laver Arena, where the Australian Open is going on. So a lot of spectators will be guaranteed.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by emmea90 » 19/01/2018, 23:53

For having better comprehension i suggest to turn on "show slopes on profile" while tracking
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by lucifeba » 20/01/2018, 11:51

Ok!

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Anthofou31 » 20/01/2018, 18:21

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Hi,
That is my Tour Down Harder between Wollongong and Melbourne with 3 arrival in Climb
I hope you will like it
Have a Good day.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by mauro » 20/01/2018, 22:47

Il mio percorso

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Post by Ded-Moroz » 21/01/2018, 10:37

Tour Down Harder
maps/tours/view/8125

Total distance - 679.75 Km
Sprint stages - 3
Medium mountain stages - 2
Time trial - 1
MTF - 2

Stage 1
Clayton Bay > Mannum 142.12 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Langhorne Creek (Km 35.3), Murray Bridge East (Km 105.7)
KOM SPRINT: Callington Hill (1.5 Km at 6.2%, Km 79.4)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Callington (Km 75.3)

Stage 2
Mannum > Teringie Hill 148.25 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Malcolm Creek Vineyard (Km 61.6)
KOM SPRINTS: Palmer Hill (5.6 Km at 4.5%, Km 19.0), Paracombe (3.4 Km at 5.5%, Km 88.9), Marble Hill (11.0 Km at 4.1%, Km 120.5), Teringie Hill (3.3 Km at 8.1%, Finish)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Chain of Ponds (Km 69.9)

Stage 3
Norwood > McLaren Vale 151.48 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Wingfield (Km 55.4), Aldinga (Km 114.3)
KOM SPRINT: O'Halloran Hill (4.2 Km at 4.3%, Km 86.3)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Glenelg North (Km 76.0)

Stage 4
McLaren Vale > Mount Lofty 155.61 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Happy Valley (Km 28.5)
KOM SPRINTS: Chandlers Hill (3.5 Km at 5.4%, Km 23.4), Belair (4.2 Km at 5.1%, Km 45.7), Upper Sturt (4.3 Km at 4.0%, Km 52.9), Cherry Gardens (2.7 Km at 5.4%, Km 70.0), Carey Gully (3.3 Km at 4.5%, Km 120.5), Ashton (2.7 Km at 4.7%, Km 133.2), Mount Lofty (10.3 Km at 5.4%, Finish)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Ironbank (Km 76.9)

Stage 5
Adelaide > Adelaide(4 laps) 67.83 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Lap 2 (Km 33.9)

Stage 6(ITT)
Adelaide(Victoria Park) > Adelaide(Adelaide Oval) 14.46 Km
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INTERMEDIATE POINT: Adelaide Aquatic Centre (Km 7.2)
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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by lorenzo.tripodi » 24/01/2018, 19:07

maps/tours/view/8079

The harder race of Australia.

1° Stage - Stage move and vallonata in the first part, then flat until the arrival.
2° Stage - Pretty flat stage with short ups and downs to the foot of the Ferny Creek tear.
3° Stage - High mountain stage, begins with the Donna Buang climb and up to the slopes of Mount Baw Baw is characterized by false flats and ups and downs.
4° Stage - The hardest stage of the Down Under, you have to face three mountains with difficult slopes until you get to the long climb of The Hump.
5° Stage - Long and flat Time-Trial suitable for specialists.
6° Stage - Very easy stage , flat and short to arrive a Sydney.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by mels2309 » 24/01/2018, 19:54

maps/tours/view/8174

The race includes:
  • Two flat stages
  • Two medium mountain stages
  • One high mountain stage
  • One time trial
1. Wagga Wagga - Holbrook. (110 km) A flat and short stage to start with. Sprinters will get there chance.
2. Albury - Albury. (16 km) The time trial includes two tough hills.
3. Albury - Beechworth (150 km) A hilly stages that ends with a 5 km climb towards Beechworth.
4. Wangaratta - Mount Beauty (137 km) The climb towards Tawonga Gap makes the stage. 6 km and 6,5% before the downhill towards Mount Beauty. Small finish, but wide enough. Like Lac de Payolle 2016.
5. Tallangatta - Thredbo (187 km) The hardest stage of this Tour. 6 categorized climbs and a finish in Thredbo after the 1st category climb towards Dead Horse Gap.
6. Cooma - Canberra (142 km) The race finishes in Canberra. The second chance for the sprinters to take the victory.

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by Rmax85 » 25/01/2018, 15:52

Hello,

I present you my Tour Down Harder
maps/tours/view/8095

6 stages
915 km
1 High mountain stage
2 Hill stages
2 flat stages
1 ITT (30.4 km)

Stage 1 : Canberra > Cootamundra (169 km).
A real stage for sprinters

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Image Cootamundra (Finish Line)

Stage 2 : Junee > Bethanga Historic Area (182.5 km)
The first occasion for punchers

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Image Bethanga (Finish Line)

Stage 3 : Albury > Shepparton Mooroopna (182 km)
The second and last chance for the sprinters

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Image Shepparton Mooroopna (Finish Line)

Stage 4 : Euroa > Woodend (173 km)
The first real occasion for GC pretenders

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Image Camel's Hump= Mount Macedon
Image Woodend (Finish Line)

Stage 5 : Craigieburn > Mount Donna Buang (176 km)
The firework stage

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Image Mount Donna Buang (Finish line)

Stage 6 : Port Melbourne > Melbourne (30 km)
The final ITT

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by mike4296 » 26/01/2018, 11:37

Hey folks!
I'm taking part at the contest too. While I finish with descriptions and stuff like that, here there is an anticipation of my route...
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The race will take place in the state of Victoria, with the finish line placed in its capital and larger city Melbourne. More news coming soon!

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Re: Tour Down Harder (Cat. 2, deadline on 10/2)

Post by lorenzo.ciconte » 26/01/2018, 17:54

My Tour Down Harder presentation (with images this time ) Part 1
Stage 1 Canberra ------------------> Moruya
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Stage 1 presents 50 km of dirt roads that end 7 km before the finish line in Moruya, turns and rompepiernas climbs are featured also in this section, definitely a stage for riders like Sagan, Trentin and local hero Matthews
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(Canberra)
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(Araulen Road)

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(Moruya)

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