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Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics [Cat. 2]

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Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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The 2nd contest of the season will be about Benelux Cobbled Classics. You are called to re-invent the following classics
  • Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
  • Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
  • Ronde Van Drenthe
  • De Panne Classic
  • E3 Harelbeke
  • Gent-Wevelgem
  • Dwaars Door Vlaanderen
  • Ronde Van Vlaanderen
Constraints are the following ones:
  • General
    • All classics must start and finish into different cities from the original ones. 2019 cities are the one for reference.
    • You can change names of the classics that contains a city in the name, changing the city
    • You can use cities in 'other' classics, example Ypres cannot be used in Gent-Wevelgem (as it's start) but can be used in Ronde Van Drenthe
    • You are not asked to keep the same zone, but classics should be entirely be in Benelux
    • There should be at least three finishes in Netherlands
    • Classics should present the same or at least similar characteristics of the original ones
  • Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
    • Race is intended to be a lighter version of the Ronde. Should be won by people that usually places in top 20-25 of Ronde, not cutting them out. Should not be for pure sprinters (like Viviani). Distance not more than 210 Km.
  • Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
    • Race should have a middle section with cobbled bergs for attacks, then a final circuit that put sprinters back in field, giving them 60-70% chances to win the race.
  • Ronde Van Drenthe
    • It's a sprinter race with some cobbled sections sprinters have less chances than in Kuurne and present no bergs.
  • De Panne Classic
    • Pure sprinter race.
  • E3 Harelbeke
    • Race more similar to a Ronde. Harder than Omloop but easier than Ronde.
  • Gent-Wevelgem
    • It's a race in which pure sprinters can have a 50-50% chance with attackers.
  • Dwaars Door Vlaanderen
    • It's a <200 Km race that present some climbs but only few cobbled so climbers like Valverde can make a top 10-15. Sprinters are definitely taken out of the field
  • Ronde Van Vlaanderen
    • Think there is nothing to explain here. It's THE monument. It's forbbidden to re-propose the old Ronde Finish with Muur and Bosberg
Please use the "ASO 2019 profile" of the race, in 3d mode for all the races. For the Ronde Van Drenthe use the Scheldeprijs profile.

You have to deliver two routes, one for the Men's races and one for the Women's races with classics inserted in that order.

Deadline will be saturday march 21, 2020 h 23.59
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Should/can we present all the races in the same Tour for more visibility?

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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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benoît.guillot wrote:
24/02/2020, 11:40
Should/can we present all the races in the same Tour for more visibility?
Yes.

Edit: One tour for ME and one tour for WE
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Should our Kuurne necessarily have cobbled climbs or can we have bergs and cobbled sectors a part ? Only two cobbled bergs is KBK...

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Just to make sure, women’s and men’s race means we have to deliver 16 routes in total, right?

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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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jibvalverde wrote:
25/02/2020, 1:04
Should our Kuurne necessarily have cobbled climbs or can we have bergs and cobbled sectors a part ? Only two cobbled bergs is KBK...
Like you want.
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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jajoejoe wrote:
26/02/2020, 1:20
Just to make sure, women’s and men’s race means we have to deliver 16 routes in total, right?
Yes, 2 tours of 8 routes each
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Is a final circuit in Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne a must? Or is just a flat section to get to the finish enough?

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Xander66 wrote:
27/02/2020, 11:59
Is a final circuit in Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne a must? Or is just a flat section to get to the finish enough?
At least one circuit lap like 2020 year.
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With Nieuwsblad and GP E3 little Ronde, should you use the same region for three race or could we choose differents regions (like Wallonie for one and Flandres for others) ?

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jibvalverde wrote:
29/02/2020, 19:04
With Nieuwsblad and GP E3 little Ronde, should you use the same region for three race or could we choose differents regions (like Wallonie for one and Flandres for others) ?
You can choose different regions
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Can we start a race in the city in which the real race finishes, or vice versa? Or is it forbidden too?

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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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taaramae_crack wrote:
01/03/2020, 14:10
Can we start a race in the city in which the real race finishes, or vice versa? Or is it forbidden too?
You can
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Hi everyone!

Here are my races for the contest i only did the mens races the WE would just be shorter but very similar.
maps/tours/view/13958

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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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lennert wrote:
05/03/2020, 18:50
Hi everyone!

Here are my races for the contest i only did the mens races the WE would just be shorter but very similar.
maps/tours/view/13958

Thanks clap
You have to do WE races, otherwise you are not admittable to voting phase. And "shorter but very similar" is not enough
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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Do all of the races have to start and finish in the Benelux? And if so can you cross the border for a short trip outside the Benelux during a race?

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I've completed men races but I'm not good enough to propose women's races as well. I regretfully forfeit for contest 2...

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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics

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For every race is it necessary to propose two tracks, one male and one female?

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benoît.guillot wrote:
09/03/2020, 9:26
I've completed men races but I'm not good enough to propose women's races as well. I regretfully forfeit for contest 2...
Really don't get why women races HAVE to be in there nonrulo

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Equality in the sport is important y’all. The women’s calendar is way behind on the men’s and I think designing these races for also the women also gives people who only focus on men’s cycling a look into women’s cycling. I like this challenge and don’t think designing a women’s race for every men’s race is hard

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