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Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

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Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

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Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

It's Giro time!

As usual, the Giro contest will be about redesigning the 2021 route of Giro d'Italia.

Constraints are the following

Constraints
  • As Turin and Piemonte paid for the start, Turin shall host start and finish of Stage 1. Piemonte region shall host Stage 2 and 3 start and finishes
  • You have to mantain the finish of one stage in Slovenia
  • You can go in Suisse, but it's not mandatory
  • 2021 race is unbalanced for climbers due to TDF putting more ITT Kms. You have to keep this balance in your race
  • As 2021 race never have two consecutive mass sprint finish stages, you have to keep this constraint also in your route
  • You shall keep a strade bianche stage in your route
  • You shall keep Foggia as the southern possible finish of your route. This doesn't mean you have to finish in Foggia, but that you can't start/finish south of it
  • At least one of the MTFs of the 2021 giro shall be kept and the stage shall be re-designed to suit it better
  • Finish shall be in Milan
Deadline will be June 6, h 23.59

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Re: Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

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1) Can we go south of Foggia if the stage starts and ends north of Foggia?
2) Is it possible to just go to Switzerland or even finish a stage and leave from there the next day?
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nebe wrote: 10/05/2021, 18:03 1) Can we go south of Foggia if the stage starts and ends north of Foggia?
2) Is it possible to just go to Switzerland or even finish a stage and leave from there the next day?
1) not with a start/finish of a stage, yes with a transit
2) only transit, no finish.
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Re: Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

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You have to mantain the finish of one stage in Slovenia
Just to clear any doubts. Stage 15 of Giro goes through Slovenia, but the stage finish is in Gorizia - Italy. Does the above sentence in quote mean that we should have the stage actually finish in Slovenia or just go through it and finish in Italy? Also, is start of stage in Slovenia prohibited?
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emmea90 wrote: 10/05/2021, 14:39
2021 race is unbalanced for climbers due to TDF putting more ITT Kms. You have to keep this balance in your race
Does this mean we have to add more ITT kilometers too? Or just keep the same amount as the real life route?
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Micek_52 wrote: 11/05/2021, 10:25
You have to mantain the finish of one stage in Slovenia
Just to clear any doubts. Stage 15 of Giro goes through Slovenia, but the stage finish is in Gorizia - Italy. Does the above sentence in quote mean that we should have the stage actually finish in Slovenia or just go through it and finish in Italy? Also, is start of stage in Slovenia prohibited?
Gorizia is a mid case as it's a city split in two. Let's just say you can finish in Slovenia, but you have to stay near border. Start is prohibited.
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I will be able to submit for this one gladly. I had a route before but it starts in Potsdam :(
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Hello, i'm new.
I'm thrilled to design a Giro route, is there a general rules page for these contests that i can visit?
If not, i've two generic questions, how much realism is required? (like of course possible finish places, but should i consider things like roads that can't be closed for traffic reasons, etc.) and how much should i stick to the actual 2021 Giro route? Other than the constraints do i've carte blanche?
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Cwatt wrote: 11/05/2021, 22:45 Hello, i'm new.
I'm thrilled to design a Giro route, is there a general rules page for these contests that i can visit?
If not, i've two generic questions, how much realism is required? (like of course possible finish places, but should i consider things like roads that can't be closed for traffic reasons, etc.) and how much should i stick to the actual 2021 Giro route? Other than the constraints do i've carte blanche?
It's up to the voters, but of course the route shall be possible to do in the real life.

How much should you stick? Only constraints, rest is free.
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Looking forward to my first Giro contest especially as I think the constraints on the roads taken are tougher for the Tour de France. I will be quite strict in my final votes but I expect nothing less towards me :)
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Re: Contest #4 - Giro d'Italia 2021

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Ecco il mio percorso, ispirato al novantesimo anniversario della maglia rosa. Ho disegnato un percorso che cerca di toccare le terre di quei corridori che hanno vestito la maglia rosa ma non hanno mai vinto il Giro, anche se per ovvie ragioni non è stato possibile farlo con tutti (per esempio con i siciliani e Aru). Per questo motivo ho pensato ad un percorso che nella prima parte non sia troppo duro e consenta parecchi cambi di leader della classifica. Le tappe di alta montagna sono solo sei, ma non penso che gli scalatori siano sfavoriti, mentre per quanto riguarda le cronometro ho preferito metterne solo una di 45 Km. Le tappe per velocisti sono sei, una in più rispetto al vero Giro 2021. Il primo riposo si effettua il giovedì della seconda settimana; il successivo è previsto quattro giorni più tardi, il lunedì della terza settimana.

PS. Se qualcuno si chiedesse come ho fatto a disegnarlo così velocemente, a soli due giorni dall’apertura del concorso, in realtà l’avevo disegnato nelle scorse settimane e poi mi è bastato semplicemente adattarlo alle regole del contest con qualche ritocco qua e là

Here is my Giro, inspired by the 90th anniversary of the pink jersey. I designed a route that tries to touch the lands of those riders who wore the pink jersey but never won the Giro, even if for obvious reasons it was not possible to do it with everyone (for example with the Sicilians and Aru). For this reason I have thought of a path that in the first part is not too hard and allows several changes of leader of the classification. There are only six high mountain stages, but I don't think the climbers are underdogs, while as regards the time trials I preferred to put only one of 45 km. There are five stages for sprinters, like in the real 2021 Giro. The first rest dat takes place on Thursday of the second week; the next is scheduled four days later, on the Monday of the third week.

PS. If anyone were to ask how I drew it so quickly, just two days after the competition opened, I actually drew it in the past few weeks and then it was enough for me to simply adapt it to the contest rules with a few tweaks here and there


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1a tappa: Torino – Torino (180 Km)

Al posto della cronometro d’apertura ho pensato ad una prima tappa in linea non banale, che propone in particolare la duplice ascesa al Colle Braida e una serie di collinette che terminano a 19 Km dall’arrivo. Non è escluso l’arrivo allo sprint, ma diversi velocisti saranno tagliati fuori dai giochi e non è esclusa che vada in porto un’azione come quella vista nella tappa di Canale. La tappa è dedicata ai corridori piemontesi Nino Defilippis, Angelo Conterno, Enrico Mollo (nativi di Torino), Agostino Coletto (nativo di Avigliana), al veneto Luciano Galbo (nato a Padova, deceduto a Trofarello) e al siciliano Giovanni Visconti (nato a Torino).

Inoltre si transita per due volte da Cumiana, paese natale di Francesco Camusso, vincitore del primo Giro nel quale era assegnata la maglia rosa (1931)
In place of the opening time trial, I thought of a first non-trivial online stage, which in particular offers the double ascent to Colle Braida and a series of hills that end 19 km from the finish. The arrival in the sprint is not excluded, but several sprinters will be cut off from the game and it is not excluded that an action like the one seen in the Canale stage will go through. The stage is dedicated to the Piedmontese runners Nino Defilippis, Angelo Conterno, Enrico Mollo (born in Turin), Agostino Coletto (born in Avigliana), the Venetian Luciano Galbo (born in Padua, died in Trofarello) and the Sicilian Giovanni Visconti (born in Turin). It also passes twice through Cumiana, the birthplace of Francesco Camusso, winner of the first Giro in which the pink jersey was awarded (1931)

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2a tappa: Castelnuovo Don Bosco – Borgomanero (178 Km)

La prima occasione per i velocisti arriva al termine di una tappa dedicata in particolare a Pasquale Fornara, il corridore di Borgomanero che vestì la maglia rosa nel 1956 nel giorno del tremendo tappone del Bondone: se non ci fosse stato maltempo molto probabilmente sarebbe stato lui ad imporsi in quella edizione. Oltre a Fornara, la tappa è dedicata a Giancarlo Astrua (Biella) e Domenico Piemontesi (Boca). La partenza è da Castelnuovo Don Bosco, paese natale di Luigi Marchisio, il vincitore dell’ultimo Giro nel quale non era prevista l’assegnazione della maglia rosa (1930)

The first opportunity for the sprinters comes at the end of a stage dedicated in particular to Pasquale Fornara, the rider from Borgomanero who wore the pink jersey in 1956 on the day of the terrible Bondone stage: if there hadn't been bad weather, he would have most likely been the one impose itself in that edition. In addition to Fornara, the stage is dedicated to Giancarlo Astrua (Biella) and Domenico Piemontesi (Boca). The start is from Castelnuovo Don Bosco, the birthplace of Luigi Marchisio, the winner of the last Giro in which the pink jersey was not awarded (1930)

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3a tappa: Verbania – Valenza (180 Km)

Il Giro lascia il Piemonte con una tappa che potrebbe terminare allo sprint, ma che fa anche gola ai finisseur. Il finale ricorda quello di Canale con un circuito di una ventina di chilometri, da ripetere due volte, con il GPM di Pecetto di Valenza e soprattutto l’ascesa della Colla, 500 metri al 7.4% in cima alla quale si scollina l’ultima volta a 5 Km dal traguardo. Tappa dedicata a Filippo Ganna (Verbania) e ai corridori originari della provincia di Alessandria Giorgio Zancanaro (Alessandria), Giovanni Pettinati (Cartosio), Luigi Giacobbe (Bosco Marengo) e Osvaldo Bailo (Serravalle Scrivia)

The Giro leaves Piedmont with a stage that could end in the sprint, but which is also tempting for the finisseurs. The finish is reminiscent of Canale with a circuit of about twenty kilometers, to be repeated twice, with the GPM of Pecetto di Valenza and above all the ascent of Colla, 500 meters at 7.4% at the top of which you climb the last time 5 Km from the finish. Stage dedicated to Filippo Ganna (Verbania) and runners from the province of Alessandria Giorgio Zancanaro (Alessandria), Giovanni Pettinati (Cartosio), Luigi Giacobbe (Bosco Marengo) and Osvaldo Bailo (Serravalle Scrivia)

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4a tappa: Savona – La Spezia (209 Km)

Il finale ricalca in parte quello della tappa de La Spezia del Giro del 2015 (diversa è la discesa con la quale si va al traguardo rispetto a quello della tappa vinta da Formolo). La tappa è dedicata a Giuseppe Olmo (Celle Ligure), Massimo Podenzana (Bolano) e Alessandro Petacchi (Castelnuovo Magra). Nota: il trasferimento da Valenza a Savona (110 Km) può sembrare eccessivo ma è molto meno lungo di quello che al vero Giro d’Italia hanno effettuato a questo punto della corsa da Canale a Piacenza (circa 150 Km)

The ending partly follows that of the La Spezia stage of the 2015 Giro (the descent with which you go to the finish is different from that of the stage won by Formolo). The stage is dedicated to Giuseppe Olmo (Celle Ligure), Massimo Podenzana (Bolano) and Alessandro Petacchi (Castelnuovo Magra). Note: the transfer from Valenza to Savona (110 km) may seem excessive but it is much shorter than the one they took in the real Giro d’Italia at this point of the race from Canale to Piacenza (about 150 km)

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5a tappa: Lucca – Sesto Fiorentino (160 Km)

La tappa celebra il centesimo anniversario della nascita di Alfredo Martini, che pure ha vestito in carriera la maglia rosa, e rende omaggio anche alla figura di Dante Alighieri sfiorando nel finale il centro di Firenze. Oltre che all’indimenticato commissario tecnico della nazionale, la tappa è dedicata anche a Mario Cipollini (Lucca), Cesare Del Cancia (Buti), Secondo Magni (Massarella di Fucecchio), Ezio Cecchi (Monsummano Terme), Aldo Bini (Montemurlo), Franco Bitossi (Carmignano) e Francesco Casagrande (Firenze)

The stage celebrates the hundredth anniversary of the birth of Alfredo Martini, who also wore the pink jersey during his career, and also pays homage to the figure of Dante Alighieri by touching the center of Florence in the final. In addition to the unforgettable technical commissioner of the national team, the stage is also dedicated to Mario Cipollini (Lucca), Cesare Del Cancia (Buti), Secondo Magni (Massarella di Fucecchio), Ezio Cecchi (Monsummano Terme), Aldo Bini (Montemurlo), Franco Bitossi (Carmignano) and Francesco Casagrande (Florence)

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6a tappa: Terranuova Bracciolini - Gualdo Tadino (157 Km)

Tornano protagonisti i velocisti (ma attenzione all’attraversamento in salita del centro storico di Gualdo Tadino) nella tappa dedicata a Bruno Mealli (Terranuova Braccioli) e Adolfo Leoni (Gualdo Tadino)

The sprinters are back (but beware of the uphill crossing of the historic center of Gualdo Tadino) in the stage dedicated to Bruno Mealli (Terranuova Braccioli) and Adolfo Leoni (Gualdo Tadino)

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7a tappa: Sassoferrato – Civitanova Marche (161 Km)

È il “tappone dei muri”. Ne sono previsti ben cinque – la Boccolina (mai affrontata prima), Filottrano, Osimo, Castelfidardo e Montelupone – oltre ad altre difficoltà altimetriche. La tappa è dedicata a Giancarlo Polidori (Sassoferrato)ma anche al vincitore del Giro 2011 Michele Scarponi, che in corsa non indossò mai la maglia rosa perché la vittoria gli sarà assegnata solo dopo la squalifica di Contador

It is the "big stage of the walls". Five of them are planned - Boccolina (never faced before), Filottrano, Osimo, Castelfidardo and Montelupone - in addition to other altitude difficulties. The stage is dedicated to Giancarlo Polidori (Sassoferrato) but also to the 2011 Giro winner Michele Scarponi, who never wore the pink jersey during the race because the victory will be awarded only after Contador's disqualification

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8a tappa: Giulianova - Fossacesia (182 Km)

Arriva il momento della prima montagna vera, anche se la frazione con arrivo a Fossacesia non è definibile di alta montagna perché i 12 Km all’8.5% devono essere scalati a 100 Km dal traguardo. I chilometri successivi sono resi, però, complicati da parecchi saliscendi, tra i quali si annida anche il ripido muro di Guardiagrele. Se ci fosse bagarre tra gli uomini di classifica, qualche “pesce grosso” potrebbe pagare dazio. La tappa è dedicata ad Alessandro Fantini (Fossacesia)

The time has come for the first real mountain, even if the fraction with arrival in Fossacesia cannot be defined as high mountain because the 12 km at 8.5% must be climbed 100 km from the finish. The following kilometers are made, however, complicated by several ups and downs, among which the steep wall of Guardiagrele also nestles. If there was a bagarre among the men of the ranking, some "big fish" could pay duty. The stage is dedicated to Alessandro Fantini (Fossacesia)

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9a tappa: Castel di Sangro - Campo Felice (151 Km)

L’unica tappa del vero Giro 2021 che ho ridisegnato è quella di Campo Felice. Ne ho modificato la prima parte (salite di Roccaraso e Monte Urano al posto di Colle della Croce e Passo Godi) e ho introdotto quattro settori di sterrato pianeggiante tra Forca Caruso e Ovindoli, nell’attraversamento della Piana del Fucino.

The only stage of the real 2021 Giro that I have redesigned is Campo Felice. I modified the first part (climbs of Roccaraso and Monte Urano instead of Colle della Croce and Passo Godi) and I introduced four sectors of flat dirt road between Forca Caruso and Ovindoli, crossing the Piana del Fucino.

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10a tappa: Avezzano - Rocca di Papa (166 Km)

Gran finale sui Colli Albani per la decima tappa, che prevede la doppia scalata a Rocca di Papa, anche se solo al primo passaggio si affronta il ripido tratto in pavè che conduce fino ai Campi di Annibale, storica ascesa del Giro del Lazio. Invece, il traguardo al termine della seconda ascesa è previsto alle porte del centro storico. La tappa è dedicata a Vito Taccone (Avezzano), Vincenzo Meco (Corcumello), Bruno Monti (Albano Laziale) e al romano Valerio Conti

Big finish on the Alban Hills for the tenth stage, which includes the double climb to Rocca di Papa, even if only at the first passage you face the steep section of cobblestones that leads to the Campi di Annibale, the historic ascent of the Giro del Lazio. Instead, the finish line at the end of the second ascent is expected at the gates of the historic center. The stage is dedicated to Vito Taccone (Avezzano), Vincenzo Meco (Corcumello), Bruno Monti (Albano Laziale) and the Roman Valerio Conti

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11a tappa: Velletri – Roccamonfina (176 Km)

Non si tratta del terzo arrivo in salita consecutivo ma poco ci manca, essendo lo scollinamento dell’ultima delle due ascese a Roccamonfina (affrontata da due versanti differenti) collocato a soli 1800 metri dal traguardo. La salita è comunque poco selettiva

This is not the third consecutive uphill finish but we are close to it, being the GPM of the last of the two ascents in Roccamonfina (tackled from two different sides) located just 1800 meters from the finish. However, the climb is not very selective

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12a tappa: Telese Terme – Foggia (156 Km)

È la tappa più meridionale, nella quale tornano per ventiquattrore protagonisti i velocisti.

It is the southernmost stage, in which the sprinters return for twenty-four hours.

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13a tappa: Gorizia – Nova Gorica (45.1 Km – ITT)

L’unica cronometro è ispirata alla tappa transfrontaliera del Giro 2021 da Grado a Gorizia. Il percorso alterna tratti veloci e scorrevoli ad altri più impegnativi e prevede cinque passaggi dalla frontiera tra Italia e Slovenia

The only time trial is inspired by the cross-border stage of the Giro 2021 from Grado to Gorizia. The route alternates fast and flowing sections with others that are more demanding and includes five crossings from the border between Italy and Slovenia

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14a tappa: Udine - Tre Cime di Lavaredo (171 Km)

È la prima dei tre tapponi alpini, in mezzo ai quali ho inserito altre due non semplici tappe sugli Appennini. La tappa è dedicata ai corridori friulani che hanno vestito la maglia rosa: Giordano Cottur (Trieste), Guido De Santi (Trieste) e Oreste Conte (Martignacco)

It is the first of the three Alpine stages, in the middle of which I have inserted two other difficult stages in the Apennines. The stage is dedicated to the Friulian riders who wore the pink jersey: Giordano Cottur (Trieste), Guido De Santi (Trieste) and Oreste Conte (Martignacco)

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15a tappa: Cortina d’Ampezzo – Monte Bondone (Viote) (247 Km)

Tappone da 8963 metri di dislivello positivo che ha in serbo nel finale la doppia scalata al Bondone, ma da due versanti differenti. La prima ascesa avviene dal versante di Lasino, percorrendo all’inizio alcuni tratti della vecchia strada, dimessa da anni ma ancora asfaltata: si tratta di una serie di rampe che costituiscono un muro iniziale di 3.4 Km al 10%. In discesa si percorre il versante storico per far ritorno a Trento e infine salire al Bondone dal versante di Aldeno, affrontato anche al Giro 2020. La tappa è dedicata ad Aldo Moser ed Enzo Moser (Giovo) e a Claudio Michelotto (Trento)

A stage with 8963 meters of positive difference in height that has the double climb to Bondone in store in the final, but from two different sides. The first ascent takes place from the Lasino side, at the beginning along some sections of the old road, abandoned for years but still asphalted: it is a series of ramps that make up an initial wall of 3.4 km at 10%. Going downhill along the historical side to return to Trento and finally climb to Bondone from the Aldeno side, also tackled in the 2020 Giro. The stage is dedicated to Aldo Moser and Enzo Moser (Giovo) and Claudio Michelotto (Trento)

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16a tappa: Zero Branco – Ferrara (163 Km)

Dopo il secondo giorno di riposo si disputa la penultima tappa destinata ai velocisti, dedicata a Silvano Schiavon (Zero Branco), Dino Liviero (Castelfranco Veneto), Matteo Tosatto (Castelfranco Veneto), Antonio Bevilacqua (Santa Maria di Sala), Endrio Leoni (Dolo) e Walter Fantini (Ferrara)

After the second rest day, the penultimate stage for sprinters takes place, dedicated to Silvano Schiavon (Zero Branco), Dino Liviero (Castelfranco Veneto), Matteo Tosatto (Castelfranco Veneto), Antonio Bevilacqua (Santa Maria di Sala), Endrio Leoni (Dolo) and Walter Fantini (Ferrara)

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17a tappa: Lugo - Corno alle Scale (150 Km)

Si torna sugli Appennini per una tappa che ripropone l’arrivo in salita a Corno alle Scale 17 anni dopo la vittoria di Gilberto Simoni nel 2004. Previsto un tratto di sterrato in lieve discesa subito dopo il passaggio dal GPM del Passo del Ronchidoso. La tappa è dedicata Giuseppe Minardi (Solarolo), Diego Ronchini (Imola), Marco Cimatti (Bologna) e a tutti i corridori stranieri che hanno indossato la maglia rosa, idealmente rappresentati dal francese Raphaël Géminiani, il cui padre era originario di Lugo

We return to the Apennines for a stage that re-proposes the uphill arrival at Corno alle Scale 17 years after the victory of Gilberto Simoni in 2004. A slightly downhill stretch of dirt road is expected immediately after the passage from the GPM of the Ronchidoso Pass. The stage is dedicated to Giuseppe Minardi (Solarolo), Diego Ronchini (Imola), Marco Cimatti (Bologna) and to all the foreign riders who wore the pink jersey, ideally represented by the French Raphaël Géminiani, whose father was originally from Lugo

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18a tappa: Pavullo nel Frignano - Villa Minozzo (219 Km)

L’ultima tappa appenninica è una delle più impegnative, perché deve essere ripetuta per due volte la tosta salita di San Pellegrino in Alpe, una duplice scalata che ricorda quella al Ventoux della prossima edizione del Tour de France. La tappa è dedicata a Romeo Venturelli (Pavullo nel Frignano) e Nello Trogi (Villa Minozzo)

The last Apennine stage is one of the most demanding, because the tough climb of San Pellegrino in Alpe has to be repeated twice, a double climb that recalls the one at Ventoux of the next edition of the Tour de France. The stage is dedicated to Romeo Venturelli (Pavullo nel Frignano) and Nello Trogi (Villa Minozzo)

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19a tappa: Scandiano – Brescia (176 Km)

Apparentemente è una tappa di trasferimento verso l’ultimo tappone alpino. Nel finale deve però essere affrontata la salita più ripida dell’intero Giro, il Monte Maddalena, 4.8 Km al 12.1% in cima al quale si conclusero due tappe del Giro nel 1966 e nel 1975. La tappa è dedicata a Fermo Camellini (Scandiano), Gianbattista Baronchelli (Ceresara) e Michele Dancelli (Castenedolo). Lungo il percorso si transita da Mantova, dove terminò la prima tappa del Giro del 1931, al cui vincitore (Learco Guerra) fu per la prima volta fatta indossare la maglia rosa.

Apparently it is a transfer stage towards the last Alpine stage. In the final, however, the steepest climb of the entire Giro must be faced, Monte Maddalena, 4.8 km at 12.1% at the top of which two stages of the Giro ended in 1966 and 1975. The stage is dedicated to Fermo Camellini (Scandiano) , Gianbattista Baronchelli (Ceresara) and Michele Dancelli (Castenedolo). Along the way we pass through Mantua, where the first stage of the 1931 Giro ended, whose winner (Learco Guerra) was made to wear the pink jersey for the first time.

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20a tappa: Boario Terme – Passo Gavia (134 Km)

L’ultima occasione per gli scalatori è offerta dall’ascesa al Passo Gavia, preceduto da un Mortirolo diverso dal solito. Si sale inizialmente dal versante più facile per poi imboccare la “Dritta Contador”, la ripidissima scorciatoia (2.8 Km al 14.3%) che è stata inaugurata da Alberto Contador nel 2014. In discesa si percorre la strada di cresta verso l’Aprica prima di far ritorno ad Edolo.

The last chance for climbers is offered by the ascent to the Gavia Pass, preceded by a different Mortirolo than usual. You initially go up from the easier side and then take the "Dritta Contador", the very steep shortcut (2.8 Km at 14.3%) which was inaugurated by Alberto Contador in 2014. Downhill you take the ridge road towards Aprica before return to Edolo.

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21a tappa: Magenta – Milano (95 Km)

L’ultima tappa nasconde una piccola insidia: prima di entrare in Milano si deve percorre una rete di strette stradine immerse nella campagna. Il traguardo finale è a pochi passi dallo storico Velodromo Vigorelli e la tappa è dedicata a tutti coloro che il Giro lo hanno vinto. Oltre a loro è dedicata anche a ad Andrea Noè (Robecco sul Naviglio) e a Gabriele Bosisio (Milano)

The last stage hides a small pitfall: before entering Milan you have to walk through a network of narrow streets immersed in the countryside. The final finish line is a few steps from the historic Vigorelli Velodrome and the stage is dedicated to all those who have won the Giro. In addition to them it is also dedicated to Andrea Noè (Robecco sul Naviglio) and Gabriele Bosisio (Milan)

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In the first ITT of Turin, is it possible to finish it at Superga?
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Is it allowed for the aesthetic to fix profile errors in the presentation, like a necessary passage through a tunnel?

Example Stage is Pordenone to Pian del Cansiglio

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Hence it makes the presentation look a little nicer and means you don't have to avoid climbs / routes just because they have a tunnel in them so it ruins the profile (of course I have simply edited the png in paint here, so the original is what you will see when going through the actual tour on lfr.)
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Fyr3 wrote: 13/05/2021, 14:50 Is it allowed for the aesthetic to fix profile errors in the presentation, like a necessary passage through a tunnel?

Example Stage is Pordenone to Pian del Cansiglio

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Hence it makes the presentation look a little nicer and means you don't have to avoid climbs / routes just because they have a tunnel in them so it ruins the profile (of course I have simply edited the png in paint here, so the original is what you will see when going through the actual tour on lfr.)
I do this always when the road passes the tunnel, because it is not only better looking, it also gives an more accurate profile of the route (Sometimes the tunnels are seen as 30% climbs, while in practice they obviously are not). This exactly what the tunnel function in the editor is meant to do, so I can no reason why it is not allowed
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What are the MTF in "At least one of the MTFs of the 2021 giro shall be kept and the stage shall be re-designed to suit it better"?
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Joak01 wrote: 14/05/2021, 12:43 What are the MTF in "At least one of the MTFs of the 2021 giro shall be kept and the stage shall be re-designed to suit it better"?
Mountain top finish.
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For the MTF to keep, is it allowed to change the side of the climb, as long as we keep the summit unchanged, or is it the whole final climb that must stay the same?
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Spoiler!
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Stage 1 ITT Torino > Torino: 11.7 Km - With oneself

This tour started by short 11 kilometers ITT, which will determine the first holder of the "magilia rosa".

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Stage 2 Pinerolo > Asti: 172.43 Km - Startup

The first sprinters' duel on the stage from Pinerolo to Asti. No traps, and the winner should be the best distributed sprinter.

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Stage 3 Tortona > Rivarolo Canavese: 165.41 Km - First "banana peels"

The first difficulties for Giro riders will come in the stage from Tortona to Rivarolo Canavesy. The climbs up to Cocconato (3.1 Km at 6.1%) and especially the one at Castagneto Po (4.6 Km at 7.3%) will cause the first reshuffle in the peloton. However, the 35km distance of the final climb will result in a reduced peloton, or perhaps a madman, entering the finish line.

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Stage 4 Vercelli > Bargagli: 182.78 Km - Mysterious

On stage 4 we will leave Piedmont and head to the charming Liguria. A stage full of traps and fairly short peaks promises an interesting breakaway and indecision in the peloton. It certainly won't be a hard stage, but it will be a very dynamic one where you will need to be very focused. The climb to the finish in Bargagli is not difficult, but disturbingly irregular, which only adds to the mystery of the stage.
Driveways:
Lanzone (11.7 Km at 3.7%)
Passo della Castagnola (4.7 Km at 5.5%)
Costa di Montemaggio (5.2 Km at 7.1%)
Bargagli (8 Km at 3.9%)

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Stage 5 Sestri Levante > La Spezia: 164.37 Km - Eyes around the head

If we thought that stage 4 was dynamic and interesting then what can we write about stage 5. The mystery of Liguria will show its full face on the stage from Sestri Levante to La Spezia. Dotted with various climbs of varying difficulty, the route will be very dynamic. Despite the fact that the finish line is located in beautiful La Spezia, just before the finish line a tough test of strength awaits us on a short climb to the Sanctuary of Mary in Biassa. There is a lot to gain and a lot to lose, so leaders must be very vigilant at all times.
Driveways:
Valico della Mola (15.5 Km at 4.0%)
Monte d'Sant Agata (7.6 Km at 4.2%)
Passo del Termine (8.0 Km at 6.5%)
Sorbalo (4.4 Km at 6.1%)
Montemarcello (4.1 Km at 6.1%)
Madonna di Biassa (4.0 Km at 7.8%)

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Stage 6 Massa > Follonica: 172.06 Km - Tuscan breath

Stage 6, which is a peaceful Tuscan breather after the Ligurian chase. A stage perfect for sprint cyclists, but the stage from Massa to Follonica will also find something for the leaders - beautiful views of the sea, let's hope for good weather.

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Stage 7 Grosseto > Montepulciano: 152.15 Km - White souvenirs

The stage from Grosseto to Montepulciano is the perfect time "to buy souvenirs". Well, who wouldn't want to have a white Giro memory let him cast the first stone. . . Please, I no longer have glass in my windows.
Coming back, stage-wise, but the Giro loves puzzles. We know only one thing: The showers will be busy after this stage and the riders will certainly not be asking for rain
The "strade bianche" sectors are a total of 34 km, so it will definitely be very, very interesting.

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Stage 8 Perugia > Orvieto: 195.82 Km - Umbrian transit

The stage in Umbria should run in a relaxed atmosphere in the peloton and, due to its length and characteristics, will fall more to the breakaway, which is sure to please many of the losers of the first week. The final in Orvieto is interesting as usual, but whether anyone will want to warm up the peloton before tomorrow, we'll see. . .

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Stage 9 Viterbo > Livata: 179.14 Km - Secret smiles

The final stage of the first week is the traditional climb that closes a chapter of the Giro. This year the stage finale from Viterbo will end at the ski resort of Livata in the Simbruini mountains. Already on Monte de Vico an interesting breakaway should form, but on the 13km climb near Rome the favourites should play out their own contest among themselves, but the irregularity of the climb is sure to show secretive smiles between the leading riders.

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Stage 10 Montesilvano > Senigalla: 170.39 Km - Calm

For the start of the second week, we will have a traznyt north along the Adriatic Sea. To the eye, a quiet, pleasant stage. For excitement it is worth turning on the TV for the last 5 km, while connoisseurs should enjoy the beautiful view of the Adriatic Sea throughout the whole stage.

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Stage 11 Pesaro > Forlimpopoli: 169.93 Km - A Roman look

We take a break from the beautiful Adriatic Sea for a while. The stage from Pesaro to Forlimpopoli is 130km of very flat stage along the sea, but the last 40km are 3 dynamic hills around Forli. A stage mainly for the breakaway, but the Giro likes surprises and you can really lose a lot here.

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Stage 12 Porto Viro > Venezia (Mestre): 185.95 Km - A wearisome nothingness

Stage 12 is flat, very, very flat. Another very sprightly stage finishing in the new part of Venice. If you have any other plans for the day, the Giro will easily forgive you.

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Stage 13 Castelfranco Veneto > Pordenone: 195.05 Km - Dolomite morsel

This stage will mainly depend on the tactics of the leader teams. The two main stages of this stage were the interesting climbs of Monte Cesen and Passo Crocetta. It will probably be a tough day for the main "Grenadiers" in the teams and those eager for a stage scalp after an interesting breakaway. One of the most interesting stages whetting appetites for the next days.


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Stage 14 Maniago > Trieste: 153.83 Km - The calm before the storm

Stage 14 is a preparatory stage before the main battle of the second week in Slovenia. This is another chance for the sprinters to enjoy a stage triumph. By the way, there will again be time to see the beautiful sights of Friuli.

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Stage 15 Montfalcone > Mangart: 177.83 Km - Full strength

It was time to show the full possibilities. Slovenia will show that it can rival the most iconic moments on the legendary Alpine passes. The Mangart Pass is a special place to end Giro week. Looking ahead to the day's break everyone should show their full potential and the chaotic nature of the stage will show a great spectacle on par with the best stages in the Tour of Italy.

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Stage 16 Vicenza > Mori: 212.75 Km - Garda sigh

The longest stage at the start of week 3 seems ideal for escapees, although the flatness of this stage again gently points to sprinters. It all depends on events on the initial ascent of Madaros. This year's Giro focuses riders with views, and the Garda in May is always beautiful. So I guess it's a run. . .

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Stage 17 Folgaria > Alpe di Pampeago: 163.98 Km - From high C

The first of three key mountain stages in this Giro. The stage from Folgaria to the Alpe di Pampeago resort is a tough, typical stage for the third week of the Grand Tour. It will be important to spread your strength over three main climbs: Passo Brocon, Passo Rolle and the final, irregular Alpe di Pampeago.

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Stage 18 Bolzano > Livigno: 171.72 Km - The key to happiness

Royal stage 18 is a very important stage that will answer the question of how the favourites had form respectively. The most important moment of the stage will be a short ride through Switzerland, as this year's Cima Coppi is the Passo Umbrail, i. e. a "branch" of the legendary Stelvio. The later correction is also fascinating, as it is the tough Passo del Foscagno. There is a short descent to the finish in Livigno which should make the stage more dynamic.

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Stage 19 Edolo > Valle Spluga - Alpe Motta: 168.61 Km - No more ideas

The final mountain stage of the Giro is Lombardy in full swing. Dynamic climbs interspersed with flat moments. Alpe Muran, Teglio, Passo di Cevo, are the treats before the main course, the climbs in the Spluga Valley: Lago di Prestone and the decisive climb to the Alpe Motta resort. For the Highlanders, this is the last call to gain something in their natural habitat. Anyone who is less comfortable with ITT will be trying their hand.

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Stage 20 ITT Lecco > Bergamo: 33.63 Km - Last effort

The final step that can make a difference. A lonely 33km could decide who gets on the podium in the legendary "magilia rosa". A time trial like this can show any suffering hidden by the rest of the Giro.

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Stage 21 Palazzolo sull'Oglio > Milano: 127.96 Km - A champagne feast

Friendship stage. The winners celebrate a great result and the sprinters will play the final stage between them at the rounds in Milan. The finish at the San Siro will complete the huge effort of the participants and will be the culmination of three weeks of terribly hard work.

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Hello, I would like to present my idea for the Giro d'Italia 2021.

As Turin and Piemonte paid for the start, Turin shall host start and finish of Stage 1. Piemonte region shall host Stage 2 and 3 start and finishes - YES
You have to mantain the finish of one stage in Slovenia - YES, stage 15
You can go in Suisse, but it's not mandatory - YES, stage 18
2021 race is unbalanced for climbers due to TDF putting more ITT Kms. You have to keep this balance in your race - YES, it is 45 km ITT (Stage 1 and Stage 20)
As 2021 race never have two consecutive mass sprint finish stages, you have to keep this constraint also in your route - YES
You shall keep a strade bianche stage in your route - YES, stage 7
You shall keep Foggia as the southern possible finish of your route. This doesn't mean you have to finish in Foggia, but that you can't start/finish south of it - YES
At least one of the MTFs of the 2021 giro shall be kept and the stage shall be re-designed to suit it better - YES, stage 19 and finish in Alpe Motta
Finish shall be in Milan - YES

Details of my Giro d'Italia 2021 route
Length: 3327 km
Flat stages: 6
Medium mountain stages: 7
Mountain stages: 6
ITT stages: 2
Longest stage: Stage 16 Vicenza - Mori (212,6 km)
The shortest stage (without ITT): Stage 21 Palazzolo sull'Oglio - Milano (127,9 km)
Cima Coppi: Passo Umbrail (2500 m)

Week 1 - There is a lot going on during this week. You may not be able to win the race, but you can certainly lose it. The chaotic nature of the first week won't give me much peace or provide many lazy days in front of the TV.
Week 2 - There's something for everyone, but if you want to count in the battle for the "magilia rosa", it's definitely not going to be a pleasant week for the leader teams.
Week 3 - An accumulation of chaoticness. Long climbs, crazy descents and steep walls. Only the best legs can accumulate enough strength for 3 days of murderous struggle, but Milan will reward every suffering and sacrifice.

One-day breaks will be after stages 9 and 15.

I want my Giro route to be dynamic, unpredictable and very exciting.

Greetings
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Fyr3 wrote: 15/05/2021, 23:43 Fyr3 2020 Giro d'Italia

I will be posting the route here although I am not completely finished, I have to make the profiles and some stuff like the route map, however here is my provisional route. Of course once finished I will add the full presentation with spoilers.
Summary:
- 2 Individual Time Trials (~40km)
- 7 Flat Stages
- 3 Hilly Stages (Including Strade Bianche)
- 3 Medium Mountain Stages (1 HTF)
- 6 High Mountain Stages (4 MTF)

In keeping with the rules:
Turin hosts the start and finish of the opening stage
Piemonte hosts stages 2 and 3



You haven’t included any source of entering your route
Stage in Slovenia (I am confused about the rules here, my stage finishes back in Italy after a passage but if need be I can move the finish back into slovenia no problem.)
No finishes in Switzerland
Kept the balance of mountain vs tt (5 summit finishes and plenty more opportunities to attack Dumoulins.)
No consecutive flat stages
Strade bianche stage kept (stage 7)
Stayed north of Foggia (lowest point reached is Monte Amiata so not even close)
Redesigned MTF to Sega di Ala to improve attacking opportunities (less valley between the penultimate and final climbs)
Final stage finishes in Milan

Key points:
Summit finishes at Sormano, Abetone, Sega di Ala, Plan di Montecampione and Gerola Alta.
Cima Coppi on the Colle dei Morti (2481m)

Climbs featured in this edition:
- Pian Canelli
- Rifugio Sette Termini
- Civiglio
- Muro di Sormano
- Monte Benedetto
- Passo Cantoniera
- Monte Nerone
- Valico di Monte Amiata
- Passo del Lume Spento
- Passo del Cerreto
- Passo di Pradarena
- Passo di Pradaccio (San Pellegrino in Alpe)
- Passo dell'Abetone
- Kolovrat (Slovenia)
- Passo Praderadego
- Passo Cereda
- Forcella Aurine
- Passo Duran
- Passo della Crosetta
- Passo Fedaia
- Passo Pordoi
- Passo Valparola
- Passo Giau
- Passo di San Valentino
- Sega di Ala
- Passo del Maniva
- Plan di Montecampione
- Colle di Zambla
- Passo San Marco
- Gerola Alta (Pescegallo)
- Rifugio di Valmala
- Colle di Sampeyre
- Colle dei Morti
- Madonna del Colletto

Route
1.)Torino to Torino (ITT)
2.)Venaria Reale to Canale (hill)
3.)Alba to Novara (flat)
4.)Borgomanero to Sormano (med mo)
5.)Modena to Cattolica (flat)
6.)Bagno di Romagna to Pietralunga (med mo)
7.)Castiglione del Lago to Montalcino (hills)
8.)Siena to La Spezia (flat)
9.)Santo Stefano di Magra to Abetone (mountain)
-- rest in Emilia - Romagna --
10.)Ravenna to Mestre (flat)
11.)Venezia to Cividale del Friuli (hills)
12.)Pordenone to Pian del Cansiglio (med mo)
13.)Belluno to Cortina d’Ampezzo (mountain)
14.)Treviso to Mantova (flat)
15.)Riva del Garda to Sega di Ala (mountain)
-- rest in Veneto --
16.)Verona to Plan di Montecampione (mountain)
17.)Mazzano to Gerola Alta (mountain)
18.)Omegna to Verbania (ITT)
19.)Verbania to Rivarolo Canavese (flat)
20.)Cuneo to Borgo San Dalmazzo (mountain)
21.)Nichelino to Milano (flat)
Spoiler!
Temp Profiles here:

Stage 17 (removal of first climb likely)
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Stage 6 (tunnel error to be removed)
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Stage 12 (Potential removal of first climb / shortening of stage)
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Stage 7 (Old profile suits strade sections better)
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Stage 2 (Revised finale with slightly harder climbs, and a bonus sprint on a short ~1km climb)
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