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Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 29/01/2018, 21:36

Contest #2 - Giro d'Italia 2018
The first GT contest (Cat. 1) of the year will, of course, be on Giro d'Italia. Why I'll open it so early? Because drawing a GT is not for all and i want to give you three months to do it (at least say thanks)

The contest will be about redrawing the 2018 Giro d'Italia. That will mainly means
- You have to keep the start from Israel. You can change the starting points and cities but you have to pass on West Jerusalem and you cannot go in Palestinian territories for safety reasons.
- You have to end it in Rome
- You cannot repeat finals or key parts of stages of 2017 real race
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 15 different regions
- 2018 is 100 years after WWI end, so you have to remember it in at least two stages

Opposite from the other contests, you can have a maximum of TWO routes submitted for this one

The Giro should be balanced, offering a "Dumoulin" and a "Quintana" the same chances to compete for the maglia rosa.

The Deadline will be on 4/5, when the first rider of real Giro d'Italia will start his ITT

You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 3 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.

Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus

Good luck anyone

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In Italian:

Il contest verte sul ridisegnare il Giro 2018 con queste condizioni

A) Mantenere la partenza da Israele, senza sconfinare in altri stati o territori palestinesi. Si possono cambiare le città ma bisogna passare da Gerusalemme
B) Bisogna finire a Roma
C) Non si possono ripetere finali o punti chiavi di tappe del Giro 2017
D) Bisogna inserire almeno una partenza o arrivo di tappa in 15 diverse regioni italiane
E) Bisogna inserire almeno due tappe a tema (o con punti che tocchino il tema) "100 anni dalla fine della prima guerra mondiale"

Si possono mandare fino a due percorsi per utente

Il percorso deve essere bilanciato tra cronoman-scalatori, permettendo di essere vinto sia da un Dumoulin che da un Quintana

Chiunque posti il percorso con profili e descrizioni nel topic avrà tre punti bonus per la presentazione

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Routes submitted:
Emilio.torre: maps/tours/view/8235
Ivan98: maps/tours/view/8238
Mauro: maps/tours/view/8284
Alfa: maps/tours/view/8281
Anthofou31: maps/tours/view/8297
Pereiroseleccion: maps/tours/view/8254
Simone.Galbiati: maps/tours/view/8237
Xiki: maps/tours/view/8377
Benoit.Guillot: maps/tours/view/8288
Ded-Moroz: no link submitted
Belgian4444: maps/tours/view/8416
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Oblo » 10/02/2018, 23:45

sorry,
is an arrive on the rifugio Plose sterrato maps/viewtrack/125316 feasible or it would be penalized?
thanks!

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 10/02/2018, 23:49

Oblo wrote:
10/02/2018, 23:45
sorry,
is an arrive on the rifugio Plose sterrato maps/viewtrack/125316 feasible or it would be penalized?
thanks!
It's very bad to the top until rifugio.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Oblo » 11/02/2018, 13:27

Thanks for the answer
so i guess it's no, right?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 11/02/2018, 13:57

Oblo wrote:
11/02/2018, 13:27
Thanks for the answer
so i guess it's no, right?
Yes, it's no.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Pereiroseleccion » 11/02/2018, 15:15

It's possible to repeat stages in both routes? (for example, the Israeli ones)

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by david.tuci » 11/02/2018, 15:22

Is it viable a finish at Rifugio Calvanico? Or is it better a one at Vesuvius?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 11/02/2018, 15:41

Pereiroseleccion wrote:
11/02/2018, 15:15
It's possible to repeat stages in both routes? (for example, the Israeli ones)
Yes, no restrictions in 2018 stages
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by taaramae_crack » 11/02/2018, 16:10

Do a start/finish in a different countriy from Italy count as 1 of the 15 different regions through which the race must pass?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 11/02/2018, 17:29

taaramae_crack wrote:
11/02/2018, 16:10
Do a start/finish in a different countriy from Italy count as 1 of the 15 different regions through which the race must pass?
No
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by simone.galbiati » 12/02/2018, 16:24

my tour is this: maps/tours/view/8237

stage 1 is a short ITT in jerusalem, stage 2 a sprint, stage 3 a medium mountain stage, stage 4 flat but there is a short climb in the end, stage 5, 6 and 7 are attackers stages, stage 8 is the first summit finish in Campitello. stage 9 is an attackers stage, stage 10 is tricky because of the Tirreno Adriatico's walls. stage 11 is medium mountain with the white road climb of Poti. stage 12 is a sprint, and stage 13 has the same final as Milano-Sanremo. stage 14 is the queen stage with 2 big climbs and a downhill end. stage 15 is high mountain with the climb of oropa, and 16 is medium mountain with the Lomardia's climb of San Fermo in Como. stage 17 is likely a sprint in switzerland (or for attackers), stage 18 has a summit finish in Cavareno. stage 19 is a long ITT with the end in Gries San quirino as a commemoration of Shoah and WW2. stage 20 is the queen stage in dolomites with summit finish on the Passo Campolongo. stage 21 is a sprint in Roma.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by xiky » 12/02/2018, 20:48

Hi
This is my Giro
maps/tours/view/8377

En la descripción del Giro están los puntos a seguir / In the description of the Giro are the points to follow

Las jornadas de reposo o traslado se harán tras las etapas de Beerseba (3ª), Campocatino (9ª) y Santa Gertrude (15ª).
Tiene como salidas y llegadas 15 regiones diferentes ( Sicilia, Calabria, Basilicata, Campania, Puglia, Molise, Lazio, Emilia - Romagna, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Veneto, Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol, Lombardia, Toscana, Umbria y Marche), además de la salida en Israel y el paso por Austria.

Como reseñas a la I Guerra Mundial, tiene la salida de Feltre, también pasando por Belluno ubicando un sprint intermedio. La llegada a Innsbruck, ciudad conquistada por el ejército italiano, pero que a la postre tuvo que dejarla o cualquiera de las etapas que transcurren por Trentino y Friuli, que son territorios recuperados en la guerra.

The days of rest or transfer will be made after the stages of Beersheba (3rd), Campocatino (9th) and Santa Gertrude (15th).
It has as departures and arrivals 15 different regions (Sicily, Calabria, Basilicata, Campania, Puglia, Molise, Lazio, Emilia - Romagna, Friuli-Venezia Giulia, Veneto, Trentino-Alto Adige / Südtirol, Lombardia, Tuscany, Umbria and Marche), besides the exit in Israel and the passage through Austria.

Like reviews to the I World War, it has the exit of Feltre, also happening through Belluno locating an intermediate sprint. The arrival in Innsbruck, city conquered by the Italian army, but eventually had to leave or any of the stages that run through Trentino and Friuli, which are territories recovered in the war.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by benoît.guillot » 13/02/2018, 14:59

The fight for the pink Jersey is on !
By benoît.guillot

maps/tours/view/8288

A few stats :

- 21 stages on 23 days.
- 11 plain stages, 3 medium moutain stages, 5 high moutain stages, 2 time-trial.
- 3612 km included 95,5 km of time-trial
- 6 top finishes and 64 KOM sprints included the Colle dell'Agnelo, Cima Coppi at 2744m


Main Stages :

Stage 1 : West-Jerusalem – Tiberiade, 212 km, plain

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Tiberiade's Lake

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This first stage will take cyclists to the famous Tiberiade's Lake where Jesus would have been walking on waters. The first Pink Jersey will go a sprinter after this long stage but some breakaway specialists will be dangerous for them.

Stage 2 : Tiberiade – Haïfa, 188 km, medium moutain

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Haïfa

maps/viewtrack/189684

First KOM, first punches and more likely first time gap at standings. This stage is the perfect trap for the leaders.

Stage 3 : Tel-Aviv – Tel-Aviv, 53 km, TTT

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Tel Aviv

maps/viewtrack/189686

Very first time-trial meeting. Large and straight roads, none of the track will be challenging the teams. High speed alert !

Stage 6 : Termoli – Passo San Leonardo, 198 km, medium moutain


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Passo San Leonardo

maps/viewtrack/189697

The very first top finish will bring cyclists at the top of the Passo san Leonardo near the town of Sulmona in Abruzzes. Top climbers will not find enough difficulties to reach the win but the standing will move for sure.

Stage 8 : Ancona – San Marino (Monte Titano), 209 km, medium moutain

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Monte Titano

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Another long stage with somme difficult climbing. This stage end at Monte Titano, above San Marino, with a top finish after 10 km with 6% slopes.

Stage 10 : Padova (Villa Giusti) – Abano Terme, 42 km, ITT


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The Villa Giusti in Padova where austrian's reddition have been signed

maps/viewtrack/191433

Second and last time-trial challenge, this time individual. The stage begin in front of the Villa Giusti where war-end-terms between Austrian and Italian have been signed in 1918. Flat ITT to let specialist of the individual effort come back in the standing.

Stage 11 : Venezia – Altipiano d'Asiago, 202 km, high moutain

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Trenches at Monte Zebio near Altipiano d'Asiago

maps/viewtrack/191428

Let's remember. In may 1916, trying to conquer the plain of Venety, Austrian's troop took Asiago's plateau. Italian resistance will stop Austrian's soldier in the moutain. This battle causes 250 000 dead in both side.
Remembering is a thing but Giro is still on the road ! With the highest climb since the beginning of the race, leaders will be on duty to conquer yellow jersey.

Stage 14 : Borgosesia – Saint-Vincent, 178 km, high moutain

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Aoste's Valley

maps/viewtrack/191460

This orignal valley, full of wonderful castle and where people speaks italian and french, will be the scene for a marvelous fight in one of the most difficult clim of this edition : the Colle Tze Core (17km, 7%). After the climb, cyclists will go down in the valley to reach the victory.

Stage 15 : Aoste – Colle del Nivolet, 180 km, high moutain

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Colle del Nivolet

maps/viewtrack/191462

Many years that the Grio look at this climb, For the first time, they put it on the track to test cyclist's organism. One of the very most difficult stage for sure, ending with this giant of 16 km to climb at 2540 m.

Stage 17 : Saluces – Saint-Paul-sur-Ubaye (Combe Brémond), 197 km, high moutain

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Colle Dell'Agnelo

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Without a doubt, we have here the queen stage of this edition. Almost 6000 meters will be clim during this stage of 197 km. Three monsters with Sampeyre, Agnel and Vars (in France), three of the most difficult pass of this year. In the Combe Brémond, in France, a yellow jersey will be strongly hang on a strong man's shoulders.

Stage 20 : Norcia – Monte Terminillo, 199 km, high moutain

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Monte Terminillo

maps/viewtrack/191445

Last but not least, 24 hours before the final line, cyclists will be one more time climbing. The Monte Terminillo and its 7% 20 km will decide who will be the strongest man of those three weeks. One last climb for win the race or lose everything.

Stage 21 : Roma (Città del Vaticano) – Roma (Circo Massimo), 138 km, plain


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The Maximus' Circus

maps/viewtrack/191453

End of the road for the cyclists. Yellow jersey and his team will celebrate along the coast near Ostia. One last climb at Castel Gandolfo (pope's summer residence) and they'll go around the ancient rome to a wonderful finish along the Maximus' Circus where ancient race were standing.

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Alfa » 13/02/2018, 17:33

"TWO routes" means that we can submit two different giros?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 13/02/2018, 23:02

Alfa wrote:
13/02/2018, 17:33
"TWO routes" means that we can submit two different giros?
Yes, while for the other contests you can submit until a maximum of five.
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by Ded-Moroz » 14/02/2018, 10:45

Giro d'Italia
maps/tours/view/8395
Total distance - 3083.56 Km
Sprint stages - 9
Medium mountain stages - 4
Mountain stages - 5
Time trials - 3
MTF - 5
Hill finish - 1
Cima Coppi - Mount Mangart(2060 m)

Stage 1
Jerusalem(Israel) > Be'er Sheva(Israel) 164.46 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Ahva (Km 58.2), Re'im (Km 120.3)
KOM SPRINT: Mount Ethan (4th Category, 2.9 Km at 5.0%, Km 10.5)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Kohav Michael (Km 82.4)

Stage 2(TTT)
Be'er Sheva(Israel) > Be'er Sheva(Israel) 20.93 Km
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INTERMEDIATE POINTS: Cluj-Napoca Centre (Km 6.9), Ha-Kfir Square (Km 14.4)
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Attacks on Be'er Sheva 31 October 1917

Stage 3
Be'er Sheva(Israel) > Tel-Aviv(Israel) 177.11 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Be'eri (7Km 50.5), Beit Guvrin (Km 109.4)
KOM SPRINT: Zeharya (4th Category, 1.4 Km at 6.0%, Km 123.5)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Kiryat Gat (Km 94.8)

TRANSFER
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Stage 4
Crotone(Calabria) > Policoro(Basilicata) 188.21 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Villaggio Volvito (Km 40.3), Bruscate Piccola (Km 126.2)
KOM SPRINT: Crucoli (3rd Category, 5.0 Km at 5.7%, Km 53.5)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Mirto (Km 91.3)

Stage 5
Policoro(Basilicata) > Sala Consilina(Campania) 156.91 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Alianello di Sotto (Km 42.3)
KOM SPRINTS: Grumento Nova (4th Category, 2.5 Km at 4.8%, Km 95.4), Viggiano (3rd Category, 4.5 Km at 5.2%, Km 109.7), Valico di Paterno (2nd Category, 7.3 Km at 6.7%, Km 138.2)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Spinoco (Km 76.8)

Stage 6
Sala Consilina(Campania) > San Severo(Apulia) 191.94 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Pizzutella (Km 78.8)
KOM SPRINTS: Atena Lucana (3rd Category, 2.8 Km at 6.5%, Km 5.1), Brienza (3rd Category, 5.0 Km at 5.3%, Km 11.9), Serra (3rd Category, 5.4 Km at 3.8%, Km 37.3)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Melfi (536 m, Km 98.9)

Stage 7
San Severo(Apulia) > Trivento(Molise) 161.41 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Gambatesa (Km 55.3)
KOM SPRINTS: Sella di Castelnuovo (2nd Category, 9.8 Km at 5.1%, Km 29.8), Pietracatella (2nd Category, 8.5 Km at 5.3%, Km 69.5), Cerro (3rd Category, 4.2 Km at 4.4%, Km 83.4), Castelbottaccio (2nd Category, 10.9 Km at 4.3%, Km 113.4), Sant'Angelo Limosano (2nd Category, 9.8 Km at 5.9%, Km 140.9), Lago Montano (3rd Category, 5.0 Km at 4.2%, Km 159.9)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Casacalenda (610 m, Km 94.4)

Stage 8
Trivento(Molise) > Roseto degli Abruzzi(Abruzzo) 148.41 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Vasto (Km 49.3), Foro (Km 102.9)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Borgata Marina (11 m, Km 74.7)

Stage 9
Roseto degli Abruzzi(Abruzzo) > Mucciafora(Umbria) 187.13 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Mozzaro (217 m, Km 57.4)
KOM SPRINTS: Vettore (2nd Category, 8.5 Km at 6.0%, Km 88.5), Forca Canapine (1st Category, 14.7 Km at 5.4%, Km 117.7), Poggio Primocaso (2nd Category, 8.4 Km at 5.6%, Km 156.7), Mucciafora (1st Category, 11.5 Km at 7.5%, Arrive)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Arquata del Tronto (Km 96.8)
DIRT SECTOR: Mucciafora (8200 m, Km 187.1)
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REST DAY

Stage 10
Pesaro(Marche) > Arezzo(Tuscany) 198.24 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Pontedazzo (Km 69.6), Bacanella (Km 136.0)
KOM SPRINTS: Urbino (3rd Category, 4.7 Km at 4.3%, Km 34.3), Pestrino (3rd Category, 4.5 Km at 4.2%, Km 47.3), Gubbio (4th Category, 1.2 Km at 8.4%, Km 81.9)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Zangolo (395 m, Km 94.0)

Stage 11
Borgo San Lorenzo(Tuscany) > Faenza(Emilia-Romagna) 140.98 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Moraduccio (Km 54.6)
KOM SPRINTS: Colla di Casaglia (2nd Category, 9.7 Km at 6.4%, Km 18.4), Valico del Paretaio (2nd Category, 7.7 Km at 5.9%, Km 40.7), Valico di Prugno (3rd Category, 5.0 Km at 7.2%, Km 73.9), Monte Albano (3rd Category, 4.9 Km at 5.5%, Km 85.4), Valico La Valletta (3rd Category, 3.1 Km at 7.6%, Km 93.1), Monte Casale (2nd Category, 6.9 Km at 5.5%, Km 106.7), Passo del Trebbio (2nd Category, 6.3 Km at 6.5%, Km 117.8)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Castel del Rio (Km 61.1)

Stage 12(ITT)
Faenza(Emilia-Romagna) > Imola(Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari)(Emilia-Romagna) 27.21 Km
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INTERMEDIATE POINTS: Tebano (Km 11.8), Serra (Km 19.6)

Stage 13
Imola(Emilia-Romagna) > Treviso(Veneto) 185.09 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Volania (Km 61.5), Zena (Km 130.9)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Isola d'Ariano (Km 93.7)

Stage 14
Treviso(Veneto) > Mount Mangart(Slovenia) 201.44 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Piramidi (Km 65.1), Staro Selo (Km 149.4)
KOM SPRINT: Mount Mangart (Hors Catégorie, 16.1 Km at 8.9%, Arrive)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Risano (Km 100.9)
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Sosa(Izonzo) near Bovec
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An Austro-Hungarian fortification near Bovec

Stage 15
Moggio di Sotto(Friuli-Venezia Giulia) > Vila di Sopra(Trentino-Alto Adige/Südtirol) 195.53 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Entrampo (528 m, Km 37.5)
KOM SPRINTS: Sella Ciampigotto (1st Category, 15.1 Km at 5.2%, Km 66.5), Passo Sant'Antonio (1st Category, 8.4 Km at 7.6%, Km 96.7), Passo di Monte Croce di Comelico (2nd Category, 8.1 Km at 4.7%, Km 112.1), Passo Furcia (1st Category, 11.6 Km at 6.6%, Km 160.1), Vila di Sopra (2nd Category, 4.7 Km at 10.5%, Arrive)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Padola (1216 m, Km 101.9)
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REST DAY

Stage 16
Albenga(Liguria) > Basilica di Superga(Piedmont) 176.23 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: Cherasco (Km 104.5), Bossola (Km 137.7)
KOM SPRINTS: Colle San Bernardo (1st Category, 18.0 Km at 4.7%, Km 31.1), Basilica di Superga (2nd Category, 4.9 Km at 9.1%, Arrive)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: I Tetti (286 m, Km 85.5)
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Stage 17
Torino(Piedmont) > Aosta(Aosta Valley) 172.93 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINTS: San Genuario (Km 45.6), Carema (Km 118.9)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Borgomasino (Km 87.2)

Stage 18
Aosta(Aosta Valley) > Verres(Aosta Valley) 156.33 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Rovarey (Km 44.0)
KOM SPRINTS: Col du Saint-Barthelemy (1st Category, 17.0 Km at 6.5%, Km 23.8), Col Saint Pantaléon (1st Category, 19.1 Km at 6.0%, Km 65.5), Col de Joux (1st Category, 17.4 Km at 6.5%, Km 102.0), Col Tze Core (2nd Category, 6.4 Km at 8.8%, Km 120.7), Col d'Arlaz (1st Category, 7.5 Km at 8.5%, Km 146.6)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Châtillon (Km 83.8)

Stage 19
Calolziocorte(Lombardy) > Passo Vivione(Lombardy) 121.58 Km
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INTERMEDIATE SPRINT: Sedrina (319 m, Km 27.9)
KOM SPRINTS: Valpiana (2nd Category, 10.5 Km at 5.6%, Km 48.9), Passo Zambia (4th Category, 2.8 Km at 6.2%, Km 56.9), Passo della Presolana (1st Category, 11.5 Km at 5.8%, Km 92.7), Passo Vivione (2nd Category, 9.0 Km at 6.9%, Arrive)
FEEDING ZONE POINT: Porte Nossa (459 m, Km 71.9)
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Stage 20(ITT)
Brescia(Lombardy) > Brescia Montichiari Airport(Lombardy) 27.78 Km
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INTERMEDIATE POINTS: Preferita (Km 9.3), Centro Fiera (Km 18.6)

Stage 21
Rome(Lazio) > Rome(Lazio) 83.71 Km
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by alberto.avanzi » 15/02/2018, 8:42

emmea90 wrote:
07/02/2018, 22:17
david.tuci wrote:
07/02/2018, 21:47
Is it possible to pose a stage finish in Jordan?
No, you have to stay in Israel avoiding palestinian zones
What did you exactly mean with "palestinian zone"? Just occupied palestinian territories of West Bank and Gaza Strip (and in this case a stage from Israel to Jordan passing thru the Israel-Jordan boundary and not passing thru occupied territories is feasible) or any Arab country is forbidden?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 15/02/2018, 8:51

alberto.avanzi wrote:
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emmea90 wrote:
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Is it possible to pose a stage finish in Jordan?
No, you have to stay in Israel avoiding palestinian zones
What did you exactly mean with "palestinian zone"? Just occupied palestinian territories of West Bank and Gaza Strip (and in this case a stage from Israel to Jordan passing thru the Israel-Jordan boundary and not passing thru occupied territories is feasible) or any Arab country is forbidden?
Occupied palestininan territories are forbidden as soon going outside Israel (is Israel that paid for Grand Depart, makes no sense go in nearest country)
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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by alberto.avanzi » 15/02/2018, 9:26

Understood, thanks.

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Post by Alfa » 15/02/2018, 23:42

Is the road to Forte Interrotto near to Asiago praticable?

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Re: Giro d'Italia 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 4/5)

Post by emmea90 » 16/02/2018, 11:41

Alfa wrote:
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Is the road to Forte Interrotto near to Asiago praticable?
Track me the road and link it please
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