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Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
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Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Contest #4 - Tour de France 2018
Four months between us and the 2nd Grand Tour of the season, so it's time to open the 2nd Cat. 1 contest.
The second contest will be - of course - focused on "La Grand Boucle". Like the giro, the contest will be about re-drawing and improving Tour de France 2018.
- You have to keep Vendeé grand Depart with 2 days of racing in it.
- Of course you have to end TDF in Champs-Elysees. This means that stage 20 must end near the start or near a city that has TGV
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2017 real stages
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 7 different france regions (divided with the 2014 France law that reduced the regions in a total of 18)
- 2018 is 100 years after WWI end, so you have to remember it in at least two stages. (Yes, even there )
- 15 of july will be the date of Fifa World Cup 2018 final and the final will be played at 16.00 CET. Stage must end early on that day, so you can draw a stage of maximum 150 Km length if flat or hilly and 120 Km max if it's a mountain stage.
Like the other GT contests, you can have a maximum of TWO routes submitted for this one instead of five.
The Tour should be balanced, offering a "Dumoulin" and a "Quintana" the same chances to compete for the yellow jersey.
The Deadline will be on Satuday 7 July, when the first inline stage of Tour de France will officially starts at Km 0
You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 3 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.
Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus
Good luck anyone
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Italian
Il secondo contest dei grandi giri sarà ovviamente sul Tour de France. Come per il giro il tema del contest è ridisegnare e migliorare il Tour de France 2018.
- Dovete mantenere il Grand Depart in Vandea con due giorni di corsa
- Ovviamente dovete finire ai campi elisi. Questo comporta che la tappa precedente deve finire o vicino alla partenza oppure vicino ad una città servita da TGV
- Non potete ripetere passaggi chiave delle tappe del vero tour 2017
- Dovete inserire una partenza o un arrivo in almeno 7 diverse regioni francesi (fa fede la divisione amministrativa 2014, su 18 regioni totali)
- Ci devono essere due tappe che presentino un passaggio commemorativo della fine della 1a guerra mondiale. (Sì, anche qua)
- Il 15 di luglio c'è la finale del campionato del mondo di calcio. La tappa deve finire presto, per questo motivo la tappa di quel giorno può essere lunga al massimo 150 km se piatta o mossa e 120 se di montagna
Come negli altri contest dei GT potete presentare al massimo due percorsi.
Il Tour deve essere bilanciato offrendo a un "Dumoulin" e ad un "Quintana" le stesse chance di vittoria.
La scadenza è il 7 luglio quando il Tour de France passerà il Km 0 della prima tappa.
Four months between us and the 2nd Grand Tour of the season, so it's time to open the 2nd Cat. 1 contest.
The second contest will be - of course - focused on "La Grand Boucle". Like the giro, the contest will be about re-drawing and improving Tour de France 2018.
- You have to keep Vendeé grand Depart with 2 days of racing in it.
- Of course you have to end TDF in Champs-Elysees. This means that stage 20 must end near the start or near a city that has TGV
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2017 real stages
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 7 different france regions (divided with the 2014 France law that reduced the regions in a total of 18)
- 2018 is 100 years after WWI end, so you have to remember it in at least two stages. (Yes, even there )
- 15 of july will be the date of Fifa World Cup 2018 final and the final will be played at 16.00 CET. Stage must end early on that day, so you can draw a stage of maximum 150 Km length if flat or hilly and 120 Km max if it's a mountain stage.
Like the other GT contests, you can have a maximum of TWO routes submitted for this one instead of five.
The Tour should be balanced, offering a "Dumoulin" and a "Quintana" the same chances to compete for the yellow jersey.
The Deadline will be on Satuday 7 July, when the first inline stage of Tour de France will officially starts at Km 0
You must submit your routes in this topic submitting the link. As stated in general presentation, you can submit from 1 to 3 routes. You can use this topic also for asking the question - we can answer question about climb / road / finish praticability but we won't answer to anyone's questions in private, only in this topic.
Everyone who will present the route also posting in the topic profiles and descriptions in this topic will start the voting phase with 3 points bonus
Good luck anyone
-------------------------------
Italian
Il secondo contest dei grandi giri sarà ovviamente sul Tour de France. Come per il giro il tema del contest è ridisegnare e migliorare il Tour de France 2018.
- Dovete mantenere il Grand Depart in Vandea con due giorni di corsa
- Ovviamente dovete finire ai campi elisi. Questo comporta che la tappa precedente deve finire o vicino alla partenza oppure vicino ad una città servita da TGV
- Non potete ripetere passaggi chiave delle tappe del vero tour 2017
- Dovete inserire una partenza o un arrivo in almeno 7 diverse regioni francesi (fa fede la divisione amministrativa 2014, su 18 regioni totali)
- Ci devono essere due tappe che presentino un passaggio commemorativo della fine della 1a guerra mondiale. (Sì, anche qua)
- Il 15 di luglio c'è la finale del campionato del mondo di calcio. La tappa deve finire presto, per questo motivo la tappa di quel giorno può essere lunga al massimo 150 km se piatta o mossa e 120 se di montagna
Come negli altri contest dei GT potete presentare al massimo due percorsi.
Il Tour deve essere bilanciato offrendo a un "Dumoulin" e ad un "Quintana" le stesse chance di vittoria.
La scadenza è il 7 luglio quando il Tour de France passerà il Km 0 della prima tappa.
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Chiedo due chiarimenti:emmea90 wrote: ↑08/03/2018, 10:29
Il secondo contest dei grandi giri sarà ovviamente sul Tour de France. Come per il giro il tema del contest è ridisegnare e migliorare il Tour de France 2018.
- Dovete mantenere il Grand Depart in Vandea con due giorni di corsa
- Ovviamente dovete finire ai campi elisi. Questo comporta che la tappa precedente deve finire o vicino alla partenza oppure vicino ad una città servita da TGV
- Non potete ripetere passaggi chiave delle tappe del vero tour 2017
- Dovete inserire una partenza o un arrivo in almeno 7 diverse regioni francesi (fa fede la divisione amministrativa 2014, su 18 regioni totali)
- Ci devono essere due tappe che presentino un passaggio commemorativo della fine della 1a guerra mondiale. (Sì, anche qua)
- Il 15 di luglio c'è la finale del campionato del mondo di calcio. La tappa deve finire presto, per questo motivo la tappa di quel giorno può essere lunga al massimo 150 km se piatta o mossa e 120 se di montagna
Come negli altri contest dei GT potete presentare al massimo due percorsi.
Il Tour deve essere bilanciato offrendo a un "Dumoulin" e ad un "Quintana" le stesse chance di vittoria.
La scadenza è il 7 luglio quando il Tour de France passerà il Km 0 della prima tappa.
1) La tappa del 15 luglio può essere una tappa a cronometro? Basterebbe far partire presto il primo corridore per non interferire con la finale dei mondiali
2) La città della penultima tappa deve essere servita da TGV per forza? L'aeroporto non va bene?
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
1) Sinebe wrote: ↑04/06/2018, 19:43Chiedo due chiarimenti:emmea90 wrote: ↑08/03/2018, 10:29
Il secondo contest dei grandi giri sarà ovviamente sul Tour de France. Come per il giro il tema del contest è ridisegnare e migliorare il Tour de France 2018.
- Dovete mantenere il Grand Depart in Vandea con due giorni di corsa
- Ovviamente dovete finire ai campi elisi. Questo comporta che la tappa precedente deve finire o vicino alla partenza oppure vicino ad una città servita da TGV
- Non potete ripetere passaggi chiave delle tappe del vero tour 2017
- Dovete inserire una partenza o un arrivo in almeno 7 diverse regioni francesi (fa fede la divisione amministrativa 2014, su 18 regioni totali)
- Ci devono essere due tappe che presentino un passaggio commemorativo della fine della 1a guerra mondiale. (Sì, anche qua)
- Il 15 di luglio c'è la finale del campionato del mondo di calcio. La tappa deve finire presto, per questo motivo la tappa di quel giorno può essere lunga al massimo 150 km se piatta o mossa e 120 se di montagna
Come negli altri contest dei GT potete presentare al massimo due percorsi.
Il Tour deve essere bilanciato offrendo a un "Dumoulin" e ad un "Quintana" le stesse chance di vittoria.
La scadenza è il 7 luglio quando il Tour de France passerà il Km 0 della prima tappa.
1) La tappa del 15 luglio può essere una tappa a cronometro? Basterebbe far partire presto il primo corridore per non interferire con la finale dei mondiali
2) La città della penultima tappa deve essere servita da TGV per forza? L'aeroporto non va bene?
2) Può andare bene anche l'aeroporto anche se i francesi di solito usano il treno. L'aeroporto deve essere nel caso un aeroporto internazionale
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Perché deve essere internazionale visto che il volo è nazionale?
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Perché gli aeroporti solamente nazionali non sono soliti ospitare voli delle dimensioni dell'intera carovana del Tour ma al massimo piccoli charter
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Ancora una precisazione. Se voglio fare un trasferimento tra due città entrambe servite da TGV ma che non hanno un percorso diretto tra loro nelle tratte e quindi sarebbe necessario uno scalo andrebbe bene lo stesso?
Sai dove posso trovare l'elenco delle città servite da TGV?
Sai dove posso trovare l'elenco delle città servite da TGV?
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Hello,Xander66 wrote: ↑02/06/2018, 20:11 I decided to take a risk on this contest, creating a Tour de France without any real passage through the Pyrenees or the Alps. The big moutain chains is where everything has happened the last few years when it comes to the GC. Surprise attacks in medium mountain stages have become a rare thing, and that's why I chose to make a race like this.
This Tour will be decided in the smaller mountain chains of France: Vosges, Jura and Massif Central. The race will be more open for attacks, and the climbers will have to ride more offensive to beat the more puncher-types such as Valverde, Kwiatkowski etc.
maps/tours/view/8741
Regions passed: Pays de la Loire, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Grand Est, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes and Île-de-France
Three days we will race through Germany after last year's succes with the Grand Départ at Düsseldorf.
Full presentation is in the spoiler.
Spoiler!
What software or what website you use to draw your route on the map of the Tour de France ?
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
HelloDYDYDYDOU wrote: ↑08/06/2018, 21:14Hello,Xander66 wrote: ↑02/06/2018, 20:11 I decided to take a risk on this contest, creating a Tour de France without any real passage through the Pyrenees or the Alps. The big moutain chains is where everything has happened the last few years when it comes to the GC. Surprise attacks in medium mountain stages have become a rare thing, and that's why I chose to make a race like this.
This Tour will be decided in the smaller mountain chains of France: Vosges, Jura and Massif Central. The race will be more open for attacks, and the climbers will have to ride more offensive to beat the more puncher-types such as Valverde, Kwiatkowski etc.
maps/tours/view/8741
Regions passed: Pays de la Loire, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Grand Est, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes and Île-de-France
Three days we will race through Germany after last year's succes with the Grand Départ at Düsseldorf.
Full presentation is in the spoiler.
Spoiler!
What software or what website you use to draw your route on the map of the Tour de France ?
You can find the map and every other icon you may need to create your own map with this link:
http://legruppetto.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 60#p838265
I used paint.net as my photoshop program, but everything is explained once again if you follow the url.
Good luck!
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
OkXander66 wrote: ↑09/06/2018, 14:05HelloDYDYDYDOU wrote: ↑08/06/2018, 21:14Hello,Xander66 wrote: ↑02/06/2018, 20:11 I decided to take a risk on this contest, creating a Tour de France without any real passage through the Pyrenees or the Alps. The big moutain chains is where everything has happened the last few years when it comes to the GC. Surprise attacks in medium mountain stages have become a rare thing, and that's why I chose to make a race like this.
This Tour will be decided in the smaller mountain chains of France: Vosges, Jura and Massif Central. The race will be more open for attacks, and the climbers will have to ride more offensive to beat the more puncher-types such as Valverde, Kwiatkowski etc.
maps/tours/view/8741
Regions passed: Pays de la Loire, Nouvelle-Aquitaine, Occitanie, Provence-Alpes-Côte d'Azur, Grand Est, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Auvergne-Rhône-Alpes and Île-de-France
Three days we will race through Germany after last year's succes with the Grand Départ at Düsseldorf.
Full presentation is in the spoiler.
Spoiler!
What software or what website you use to draw your route on the map of the Tour de France ?
You can find the map and every other icon you may need to create your own map with this link:
http://legruppetto.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 60#p838265
I used paint.net as my photoshop program, but everything is explained once again if you follow the url.
Good luck!
Thank you very much !
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Hi! I'm happy to present my Tour de France 2018:
maps/tours/view/9444
(Here you can find also the descriptions of each stage)
Preview: 21 Stages
1) St-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie > Saint-Jean-le-Monts / 20,90 Km / Team-Time-Trial
2) Challans > Clisson / 170,84 Km / Plain
3) Nantes > Tours / 233,92 Km / Plain
4) Château-du-Loir > Falaise / 207,70 Km / Plain
5) Lisieux > Dieppe / 206,50 Km / Plain
6) Saint-Valery-sur-Somme > Cambrai / 180,61 Km / Plain
7) Verdun > Nancy Aérodrome / 222,21 Km / Medium Mountain
8) Nancy > Château du Haut Koenigsbourg / 191,44 Km / Medium Mountain
9) Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines > La Bresse - Col du Brabant / 118,61 Km / Medium Mountain
REST DAY 1
10) Autun > Mâcon / 156,50 Km / Medium Mountain
11) Bourg-en-Bresse > Annecy-Semnoz / 157,28 Km / High Mountain
12) Annecy > Grenoble / 155,15 Km / Plain
13) Grenoble > Albertville / 206,51 Km / High Mountain
14) Albertville > Col du Mont-Cenis - Plan des Fontainettes / 163,69 Km / High Mountain
15) Briançon > Aix-en-Provence / 238,45 Km / Plain
REST DAY 2
16) Carcassonne > Carcassonne / 39,72 Km / Individual-Time-Trial
17) Castelnaudary > Lannemezan / 176,21 Km / Plain
18) Tarbes > Lac de Payolle / 212,79 Km / High Mountain
19) Roquefort-sur-Garonne > Ax-3-Domaines / 193,54 Km / High Mountain
20) Les Angles > Port-Vendres / 177,07 Km / Medium Mountain
21) Versailles > Paris Champs-Élysées / 100,79 Km / Plain
1 Team Time Trial
1 Individual Time Trial
9 Flat Stages
5 Medium-Mountain Stages
5 High-Mountain Stages
IWW-Memory Stages: 6 & 7
maps/tours/view/9444
(Here you can find also the descriptions of each stage)
Preview: 21 Stages
1) St-Gilles-Croix-de-Vie > Saint-Jean-le-Monts / 20,90 Km / Team-Time-Trial
2) Challans > Clisson / 170,84 Km / Plain
3) Nantes > Tours / 233,92 Km / Plain
4) Château-du-Loir > Falaise / 207,70 Km / Plain
5) Lisieux > Dieppe / 206,50 Km / Plain
6) Saint-Valery-sur-Somme > Cambrai / 180,61 Km / Plain
7) Verdun > Nancy Aérodrome / 222,21 Km / Medium Mountain
8) Nancy > Château du Haut Koenigsbourg / 191,44 Km / Medium Mountain
9) Sainte-Marie-aux-Mines > La Bresse - Col du Brabant / 118,61 Km / Medium Mountain
REST DAY 1
10) Autun > Mâcon / 156,50 Km / Medium Mountain
11) Bourg-en-Bresse > Annecy-Semnoz / 157,28 Km / High Mountain
12) Annecy > Grenoble / 155,15 Km / Plain
13) Grenoble > Albertville / 206,51 Km / High Mountain
14) Albertville > Col du Mont-Cenis - Plan des Fontainettes / 163,69 Km / High Mountain
15) Briançon > Aix-en-Provence / 238,45 Km / Plain
REST DAY 2
16) Carcassonne > Carcassonne / 39,72 Km / Individual-Time-Trial
17) Castelnaudary > Lannemezan / 176,21 Km / Plain
18) Tarbes > Lac de Payolle / 212,79 Km / High Mountain
19) Roquefort-sur-Garonne > Ax-3-Domaines / 193,54 Km / High Mountain
20) Les Angles > Port-Vendres / 177,07 Km / Medium Mountain
21) Versailles > Paris Champs-Élysées / 100,79 Km / Plain
1 Team Time Trial
1 Individual Time Trial
9 Flat Stages
5 Medium-Mountain Stages
5 High-Mountain Stages
IWW-Memory Stages: 6 & 7
Last edited by kanon16 on 07/07/2018, 11:36, edited 6 times in total.
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Here I present the second try i've made to please your eyes about a fantasy Tour de France 2018
maps/tours/view/9673
- 07/07 : Stage 1 Noirmoutier-en-L'île > Les Herbiers 199.24 Km Plain
- 08/07 : Stage 2 La-Roche-sur-Yon > Le Puy du Fou 54.20 Km TTT
- 09/07 : Stage 3 La Roche-sur-Yon > Jarnac 180.81 Km Plain
- 10/07 : Stage 4 Angoulème > Tulle 174.50 Km Plain
- 11/07 : Stage 5 Tulle > Aurillac 188.39 Km Medium Moutain
- 12/07 : Stage 6 Figeac > Marmande 188.83 Km Plain
- 13/07 : Stage 7 Bordeaux > Biarritz 232.80 Km Plain
- 14/07 : Rest In Pau
- 15/07 : Stage 8 Oloron-Sainte-Marie > La Pierre-Saint-Martin High Moutain
- 16/07 : Stage 9 Accous > La Mongie 175.09 Km High Moutain
- 17/07 : Stage 10 Saint-Lary-Soulan > Vicdessos 191.48 Km High Moutain
- 18/07 : Stage 11 Foix > Béziers 174.96 Km Plain
- 19/07 : Stage 12 Béziers > Les Baux-de-Provence 198.32 Km Medium Moutain
- 20/07 : Stage 13 Pernes-les-Fontaines > Valence 169.72 Km Plain
- 21/07 : Stage 14 Valence > Grenoble 169.72 Km Plain
- 22/07 : Rest in Grenoble
- 23/07 : Stage 15 Grenoble > Passy 204.50 Km High Moutain
- 24/07 : Stage 16 Saint-Gervais-Mont-Blanc > Alp Rionda 187.33 Km High Moutain
- 25/07 : Stage 17 Montreux > Besançon - Citadelle 186.91 Km Medium Moutain
- 26/07 : Stage 18 Besançon > Mulhouse 189.38 Km Plain
- 27/07 : Stage 19 Mulhouse > Hartmannswillerkopf 209.35 Km High Moutain
- 28/07 : Stage 20 Rethondes - Mémorial de l'Armistice > Rethondes - Mémorial de l'Armistice 44.77 Km ITT
- 29/07 : Stage 21 Crecy-la-Chapelle > Paris - Champs Elysées 102.77 Km Plain
maps/tours/view/9673
- 07/07 : Stage 1 Noirmoutier-en-L'île > Les Herbiers 199.24 Km Plain
First stage, First battle for srpinters. Only 1 for the polka dot jersey, still, cyclists will be fighting with another enemy : wind
- 08/07 : Stage 2 La-Roche-sur-Yon > Le Puy du Fou 54.20 Km TTT
This first TT will allow leaders to take part of the early battle for the yellow jersey
- 09/07 : Stage 3 La Roche-sur-Yon > Jarnac 180.81 Km Plain
Leaving Vendée but another sprint one the road.
- 10/07 : Stage 4 Angoulème > Tulle 174.50 Km Plain
First difficult stage as the pack reaching the Massif Central. Last day of rest before the first big battle
- 11/07 : Stage 5 Tulle > Aurillac 188.39 Km Medium Moutain
The battle begin softly. Yet, several climbs will make leaders take their responsabilities in case of one of them is either missing or attacking.
- 12/07 : Stage 6 Figeac > Marmande 188.83 Km Plain
Half turn and strauight ahead, back to the ocean. Sprint one more time.
- 13/07 : Stage 7 Bordeaux > Biarritz 232.80 Km Plain
The longest stage of ths Tour. Sprint without a doubt but it will be the last before a long time
- 14/07 : Rest In Pau
- 15/07 : Stage 8 Oloron-Sainte-Marie > La Pierre-Saint-Martin High Moutain
Day of the final of the Football World Cup ! Go France ! Short stage in the Tour de France, but a very hard one ! Finish line in la Pierre-Saint-Martin after 3 hard climbs
- 16/07 : Stage 9 Accous > La Mongie 175.09 Km High Moutain
175 kilometers of a epic battle ending by climbing the Tourmalet before a short downhill to reach the finish line. One of the very greatest moment of that Tour.
- 17/07 : Stage 10 Saint-Lary-Soulan > Vicdessos 191.48 Km High Moutain
Last day in the Pyrennés, last High moutain stage before a while. Leaders would certaintly be enjoying the warm of the pack while lieutenant would try to add a prestigious victory on their career. Or will it be no such things? Wait and see...
- 18/07 : Stage 11 Foix > Béziers 174.96 Km Plain
Down to the sea, cyclists would have a look to the walls of the medieval city of Carcassonne. Still, there is no chance that sprinters let this win go.
- 19/07 : Stage 12 Béziers > Les Baux-de-Provence 198.32 Km Medium Moutain
This time no sprinter would make it in les Baux de Provence ! The finish of that stage is too difficult for them. However, strong punchers will dynamite the race to take the win.
- 20/07 : Stage 13 Pernes-les-Fontaines > Valence 169.72 Km Plain
And we go back to a sprinter race.
- 21/07 : Stage 14 Valence > Grenoble 169.72 Km Plain
Even if some beautiful climb will spice the begin iof the satge a little, for the last sure time, no doubt about who's gonna take the victory.
- 22/07 : Rest in Grenoble
- 23/07 : Stage 15 Grenoble > Passy 204.50 Km High Moutain
Arriving in the Alps by some spectacular climb. Too soon and not enough hard for leaders but still hard things too do to keep the pack.
- 24/07 : Stage 16 Saint-Gervais-Mont-Blanc > Alp Rionda 187.33 Km High Moutain
Big Battle out there ! 7 Climb included to HC climbs. The finish line will be the unseen Alp Rionda above Aigle in Switzerland.
- 25/07 : Stage 17 Montreux > Besançon - Citadelle 186.91 Km Medium Moutain
Very difficult stage with no rest during the whole stage. Short and hard climb, a few of them not categorized. Finish line will be at the top of the climb of the Citadelle after several hundred meters at more than 10%.
- 26/07 : Stage 18 Besançon > Mulhouse 189.38 Km Plain
First difficult stage as the pack reaching the Massif Central. Last day of rest before the first big battle
- 27/07 : Stage 19 Mulhouse > Hartmannswillerkopf 209.35 Km High Moutain
Last high moutain stage. Very last time that leaders could attack and take time on their opposents. That will be hell of a stage. We will also commemorate WW1 battle of Hartmannswillerkopf with this stage.
- 28/07 : Stage 20 Rethondes - Mémorial de l'Armistice > Rethondes - Mémorial de l'Armistice 44.77 Km ITT
Last round against the clock around the armistice memorial in Rethonds, place of the signature of the armistice of 1918. Yellow jersey would celebrate as the alst cyclist cross the finish line : victory would be his.
- 29/07 : Stage 21 Crecy-la-Chapelle > Paris - Champs Elysées 102.77 Km Plain
Défilé in the street of the french capital before the very last battle for sprinter. After 3 weeks of race, that finish line will be abour proud and relief
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
My created Tour de France:
maps/tours/view/9207
07/07: Stage 1. Challans-Challans, TT, 9,5km
The Grand-Départ in the Vendee brings us to Challans. We begin with a very technical prologue in the streets of Challans.
08/07: Stage 2. Saint-Jean-de-Monts-Les Herbiers, Plain, 198,5km
The first sprint finish of this Tour. With some little hills, where the first polka dot jersey will be handed out, the final it won't be a easy.
09/07: Stage 3. Bressuire-Vendôme, Plain, 204km
Second bunch sprint with the finish in Vendôme. It will be a long day.
10/07: Stage 4. Blois-Evreux, Plain, 220,5km
The same as Stage 3. A long day on the bike and finishes with a bunch sprint.
11/07: Stage 5. Evreux-Le Tréport, Plain, 224,5km
Still a long day, but much harder than previous stages. The pure sprinters will find this much more difficult.
12/07: Stage 6. Amiens-Valenciennes, Plain, 133km
Today we have a cobble stage towards Valenciennes. This stage is a remembrance of the battle of Valenciennes(1918) during the WW1.
13/07: Stage 7. Hirson-Mémorial de Verdun, Medium Mountain, 211km
The first hilly stage which is suited to the puncheurs. As we finish next to the memorial of Verdun we think about the battle of Verdun during the WW1.
14/07: Stage 8. Nancy-Gérardmer, Medium Mountain, 216km
Today the GC riders will face their first real test. After the Col de Sapois the riders will descent to Gérardmer
15/07: Stage 9. Gérardmer-Mulhouse, Medium Mountain(final is flat), 130km
The last stage before the rest day. Because of the World Cup final this will be a short stage. The start of this race is very difficult with some climbs, but after those it's a long time very flat. It's most likely to end up in a bunch sprint.
flight to Pau
16/07: Rest day in Pau
17/07: Stage 10, Pau-Col de la Pierre Saint Martin, High Mountain, 131km
The first high mountain stage. A really difficult day which finishes with a bang.
18/07: Stage 11, Arette-Luz-Ardiden, High Mountain, 118km
After yesterdays stage there will be no rest. A short monster stage to Luz-Ardiden
19/07: Stage 12, Lourdes-Foix, Medium Mountain, 179km
Probably a stage for the breakaway to stay away. This stage won't damage the GC riders that much.
20/07: Stage 13, Limoux-Argèles-sur-Mer, Plain, 142km
Today we have a flat stage which finishes at the coast. The wind can be a problem.
21/07: Stage 14, Perpignan-Perpignan, TT, 45km
A longer time trial today. A ride towards the coast and than back to Perpignan.
22/07: Stage 15, Perpignan-Montpellier, Plain, 218km
A long but difficult stage. As we follow the coast, the wind can play a massive role in todays stage.
23/07: Rest day in Montpellier and Nimes
24/07: Stage 16, Nimes-Gap, Medium Mountain, 218km
A transition stage for the breakaway. No stage for GC riders or sprinters.
25/07: Stage 17, Gap-Chamrousse, High Mountain, 146,5km
As we enter the Alpes, the stages will become more and more difficult. This stage is a clear example of that.
26/07: Stage 18, Le Freney-d'Oisans-Les Deux Alpes, TT, 12km
A mountain time trial up to Les Deux Alpes. As Alpe d'Huez being the better "brother" I decided to give Les Deux Alpes a Tour de France finish.
27/07: Stage 19, Le Bourg- d'Oisans-Beaufort, High Mountain, 161km
Another tough day with a lot of high mountain giants. With a not so difficult last climbs the difference should be made earlier on. The Col des Cyclotouristes will be a good climb for that.
28/07: Stage 20, Albertville-Annecy, High Mountain, 185km
A seriously hard stage with a downhill finish. The descent will put some pressure on the riders.
29/07: Stage 21, Eaubonne-Paris, Plain, 110km
Not much more to say. Just a last sprint finish
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07/07: Stage 1. Challans-Challans, TT, 9,5km
The Grand-Départ in the Vendee brings us to Challans. We begin with a very technical prologue in the streets of Challans.
08/07: Stage 2. Saint-Jean-de-Monts-Les Herbiers, Plain, 198,5km
The first sprint finish of this Tour. With some little hills, where the first polka dot jersey will be handed out, the final it won't be a easy.
09/07: Stage 3. Bressuire-Vendôme, Plain, 204km
Second bunch sprint with the finish in Vendôme. It will be a long day.
10/07: Stage 4. Blois-Evreux, Plain, 220,5km
The same as Stage 3. A long day on the bike and finishes with a bunch sprint.
11/07: Stage 5. Evreux-Le Tréport, Plain, 224,5km
Still a long day, but much harder than previous stages. The pure sprinters will find this much more difficult.
12/07: Stage 6. Amiens-Valenciennes, Plain, 133km
Today we have a cobble stage towards Valenciennes. This stage is a remembrance of the battle of Valenciennes(1918) during the WW1.
13/07: Stage 7. Hirson-Mémorial de Verdun, Medium Mountain, 211km
The first hilly stage which is suited to the puncheurs. As we finish next to the memorial of Verdun we think about the battle of Verdun during the WW1.
14/07: Stage 8. Nancy-Gérardmer, Medium Mountain, 216km
Today the GC riders will face their first real test. After the Col de Sapois the riders will descent to Gérardmer
15/07: Stage 9. Gérardmer-Mulhouse, Medium Mountain(final is flat), 130km
The last stage before the rest day. Because of the World Cup final this will be a short stage. The start of this race is very difficult with some climbs, but after those it's a long time very flat. It's most likely to end up in a bunch sprint.
flight to Pau
16/07: Rest day in Pau
17/07: Stage 10, Pau-Col de la Pierre Saint Martin, High Mountain, 131km
The first high mountain stage. A really difficult day which finishes with a bang.
18/07: Stage 11, Arette-Luz-Ardiden, High Mountain, 118km
After yesterdays stage there will be no rest. A short monster stage to Luz-Ardiden
19/07: Stage 12, Lourdes-Foix, Medium Mountain, 179km
Probably a stage for the breakaway to stay away. This stage won't damage the GC riders that much.
20/07: Stage 13, Limoux-Argèles-sur-Mer, Plain, 142km
Today we have a flat stage which finishes at the coast. The wind can be a problem.
21/07: Stage 14, Perpignan-Perpignan, TT, 45km
A longer time trial today. A ride towards the coast and than back to Perpignan.
22/07: Stage 15, Perpignan-Montpellier, Plain, 218km
A long but difficult stage. As we follow the coast, the wind can play a massive role in todays stage.
23/07: Rest day in Montpellier and Nimes
24/07: Stage 16, Nimes-Gap, Medium Mountain, 218km
A transition stage for the breakaway. No stage for GC riders or sprinters.
25/07: Stage 17, Gap-Chamrousse, High Mountain, 146,5km
As we enter the Alpes, the stages will become more and more difficult. This stage is a clear example of that.
26/07: Stage 18, Le Freney-d'Oisans-Les Deux Alpes, TT, 12km
A mountain time trial up to Les Deux Alpes. As Alpe d'Huez being the better "brother" I decided to give Les Deux Alpes a Tour de France finish.
27/07: Stage 19, Le Bourg- d'Oisans-Beaufort, High Mountain, 161km
Another tough day with a lot of high mountain giants. With a not so difficult last climbs the difference should be made earlier on. The Col des Cyclotouristes will be a good climb for that.
28/07: Stage 20, Albertville-Annecy, High Mountain, 185km
A seriously hard stage with a downhill finish. The descent will put some pressure on the riders.
29/07: Stage 21, Eaubonne-Paris, Plain, 110km
Not much more to say. Just a last sprint finish
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Here's my Tour de France 2018: maps/tours/view/9592
Stage 1: La Roche-sur-Yon > La Roche-sur-Yon (8.35 km): crono prologue completly flat. No problem for the GC contenders
Stage 2: La Roche-sur-Yon > Les Herbies (194 km): a short climb at -15km could be a launch for somebody, otherwise there will be a mass sprint
Stage 3: Les Herbiers > Saint-Nazaire (192 Km): flat satge, mass sprint
Stage 4: Saint-Nazaire > Mur de Bretagne (155 Km): first up-hill arrives the GC contenders will have a first test
Stage 5: Guingamp > Granville (204 Km): another mass sprint
Stage 6: Caen > Amiens (244 km): the longest stage, could be in the legs of the riders in tomorrow stage...
Stage 7: Calais > Dunkirk (42 km) (ITT): a long ITT for specialist, some GC condenders could pay an high price
Stage 8: Ypres > Arenberg (200 km): remembering the five battles of Ypres passing trogh Passchendale (fourth battle of Ypres), an on the route of Ronde Van Valandereen and Paris-Roubaix
Stage 9: Sedan > Verdun (143 km): a short stage for the FIFA World Cup final remebering two battles of WWI
Rest day
Stage 10: Nancy > Ballon d'Alsace (194 km): the first real climb and up-hill finish, we can understand how will not win this TdF
Stage 11: Digione > Lione (197 km): the last mass sprint before the penultimate stage
Stage 12: Chambery > Culoz (195 km): the arrive is at the end of the descent of Grand Colombiere, someone could try to reduce his gap in GC
Stage 13: Albertville > Les Deux Alpes (164 km): the last part is the same than in 1998 with the win of the "Pirata"
Stage 14: Guillestre > Mont Ventoux (199 km): arrive on the top of the MOnt Ventoux from the opposite side than last year
Stage 15: Avignone > Mende (178 km): a stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Rest day
Stage 16: Mende > Rodez (160 km): another stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Stage 17: Albi > Foix (168 km): a small sprint
Stage 18: Foix > Bagneres de Luchon (153 km): an high mountain satge but with a lots of km from the end of Col de Mende to Bagneres de Luchon
Stage 19: Pau > Lac de Payole (188 km): the last stage for how want to try to win the TdF, the Tourmalet and the Aspin will be crucial
Stage 20: Tarbes > Bordeaux (215 km): with no difficults there will be a mass sprint before the Champs-Elysées
Stage 21: Fontainebleau > Paris - Champs Elysees (132 km): the final stage in Paris
Stage 1: La Roche-sur-Yon > La Roche-sur-Yon (8.35 km): crono prologue completly flat. No problem for the GC contenders
Stage 2: La Roche-sur-Yon > Les Herbies (194 km): a short climb at -15km could be a launch for somebody, otherwise there will be a mass sprint
Stage 3: Les Herbiers > Saint-Nazaire (192 Km): flat satge, mass sprint
Stage 4: Saint-Nazaire > Mur de Bretagne (155 Km): first up-hill arrives the GC contenders will have a first test
Stage 5: Guingamp > Granville (204 Km): another mass sprint
Stage 6: Caen > Amiens (244 km): the longest stage, could be in the legs of the riders in tomorrow stage...
Stage 7: Calais > Dunkirk (42 km) (ITT): a long ITT for specialist, some GC condenders could pay an high price
Stage 8: Ypres > Arenberg (200 km): remembering the five battles of Ypres passing trogh Passchendale (fourth battle of Ypres), an on the route of Ronde Van Valandereen and Paris-Roubaix
Stage 9: Sedan > Verdun (143 km): a short stage for the FIFA World Cup final remebering two battles of WWI
Rest day
Stage 10: Nancy > Ballon d'Alsace (194 km): the first real climb and up-hill finish, we can understand how will not win this TdF
Stage 11: Digione > Lione (197 km): the last mass sprint before the penultimate stage
Stage 12: Chambery > Culoz (195 km): the arrive is at the end of the descent of Grand Colombiere, someone could try to reduce his gap in GC
Stage 13: Albertville > Les Deux Alpes (164 km): the last part is the same than in 1998 with the win of the "Pirata"
Stage 14: Guillestre > Mont Ventoux (199 km): arrive on the top of the MOnt Ventoux from the opposite side than last year
Stage 15: Avignone > Mende (178 km): a stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Rest day
Stage 16: Mende > Rodez (160 km): another stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Stage 17: Albi > Foix (168 km): a small sprint
Stage 18: Foix > Bagneres de Luchon (153 km): an high mountain satge but with a lots of km from the end of Col de Mende to Bagneres de Luchon
Stage 19: Pau > Lac de Payole (188 km): the last stage for how want to try to win the TdF, the Tourmalet and the Aspin will be crucial
Stage 20: Tarbes > Bordeaux (215 km): with no difficults there will be a mass sprint before the Champs-Elysées
Stage 21: Fontainebleau > Paris - Champs Elysees (132 km): the final stage in Paris
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Hi Dude !Pontix wrote: ↑17/06/2018, 17:13 Here's my Tour de France 2018: maps/tours/view/9592
Stage 1: La Roche-sur-Yon > La Roche-sur-Yon (8.35 km): crono prologue completly flat. No problem for the GC contenders
Stage 2: La Roche-sur-Yon > Les Herbies (194 km): a short climb at -15km could be a launch for somebody, otherwise there will be a mass sprint
Stage 3: Les Herbiers > Saint-Nazaire (192 Km): flat satge, mass sprint
Stage 4: Saint-Nazaire > Mur de Bretagne (155 Km): first up-hill arrives the GC contenders will have a first test
Stage 5: Guingamp > Granville (204 Km): another mass sprint
Stage 6: Caen > Amiens (244 km): the longest stage, could be in the legs of the riders in tomorrow stage...
Stage 7: Calais > Dunkirk (42 km) (ITT): a long ITT for specialist, some GC condenders could pay an high price
Stage 8: Ypres > Arenberg (200 km): remembering the five battles of Ypres passing trogh Passchendale (fourth battle of Ypres), an on the route of Ronde Van Valandereen and Paris-Roubaix
Stage 9: Sedan > Verdun (143 km): a short stage for the FIFA World Cup final remebering two battles of WWI
Rest day
Stage 10: Nancy > Ballon d'Alsace (194 km): the first real climb and up-hill finish, we can understand how will not win this TdF
Stage 11: Digione > Lione (197 km): the last mass sprint before the penultimate stage
Stage 12: Chambery > Culoz (195 km): the arrive is at the end of the descent of Grand Colombiere, someone could try to reduce his gap in GC
Stage 13: Albertville > Les Deux Alpes (164 km): the last part is the same than in 1998 with the win of the "Pirata"
Stage 14: Guillestre > Mont Ventoux (199 km): arrive on the top of the MOnt Ventoux from the opposite side than last year
Stage 15: Avignone > Mende (178 km): a stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Rest day
Stage 16: Mende > Rodez (160 km): another stage for how will try to escape from the peloton
Stage 17: Albi > Foix (168 km): a small sprint
Stage 18: Foix > Bagneres de Luchon (153 km): an high mountain satge but with a lots of km from the end of Col de Mende to Bagneres de Luchon
Stage 19: Pau > Lac de Payole (188 km): the last stage for how want to try to win the TdF, the Tourmalet and the Aspin will be crucial
Stage 20: Tarbes > Bordeaux (215 km): with no difficults there will be a mass sprint before the Champs-Elysées
Stage 21: Fontainebleau > Paris - Champs Elysees (132 km): the final stage in Paris
Just to let you know that some of the point you've created to trace your roads are strictly impossible ^^ Watch your stage ending in Verdun : your road is making a half turn on the same street a few meters before the arrival and the finish line is in the middle of nowhere (I think you were trying to reach the battlefield of Verdun wich is a few meter north of the point you've drew).
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Here is my Tour de France: maps/tours/view/9171
This is my proposal for the redrawn of 2018 Tour de France.
The two rest days are placed as following:
- From Stage 9 to Stage 10 (Transfer Nancy-Besançon)
- From Stage 15 to Stage 16 (Nice-Nimes)
- Grand Depart: Vendée. Stages 1 to 3 are placed in this department.
- Finish in Champs Elysées. Stage 20 finishes in La Mongie, near Lourdes, where the race can take a TGV to go to Paris.
- The race crosses 9 regions: Pays de la Loire, Bretagne, Normandie, Hauts-de-France, Grand-Est, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Auvergne-Rhone-Alps, Provence-Alpes-Cote-d'Azur and Occitaine.
- There are three stages which commemorate WWI: Stages 6 (Amiens), 7 (Compiégne) and 8 (Verdun).
- Stage 9 is specially short due to the final of the FIFA World Cup.
This is my proposal for the redrawn of 2018 Tour de France.
The two rest days are placed as following:
- From Stage 9 to Stage 10 (Transfer Nancy-Besançon)
- From Stage 15 to Stage 16 (Nice-Nimes)
- Grand Depart: Vendée. Stages 1 to 3 are placed in this department.
- Finish in Champs Elysées. Stage 20 finishes in La Mongie, near Lourdes, where the race can take a TGV to go to Paris.
- The race crosses 9 regions: Pays de la Loire, Bretagne, Normandie, Hauts-de-France, Grand-Est, Bourgogne-Franche-Comté, Auvergne-Rhone-Alps, Provence-Alpes-Cote-d'Azur and Occitaine.
- There are three stages which commemorate WWI: Stages 6 (Amiens), 7 (Compiégne) and 8 (Verdun).
- Stage 9 is specially short due to the final of the FIFA World Cup.
Spoiler!
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Hi guys ! Here is my second route for this Tour de France contest : maps/tours/view/9907.
I added the bonification sprints on my first route which can be found here : maps/tours/view/8893. In this second route, there are also these sprints in seven stages of the first week, in a total of 8 inline stages. I am sorry but I have no time to show you each profile this time, but I'll introduce you some details about the route and the different stages.
It contains :
- 3411 kilometers.
- 10 flat stages including 2 uphill finishes.
- 3 hilly stages with a top finish at Lac Blanc.
- 6 mountain stages with 2 top finishes and a punchy final in La Norma.
- 2 individual time trials, in Metz and in Pau.
- 2 rest days, after stages 9 and 15.
10 crossed regions :
- Pays de la Loire
- Bretagne
- Normandie
- Hauts de France
- Grand Est
- Auvergne - Rhône Alpes
- Provence Alpes Côte-d'Azur
- Occitanie
- Nouvelle Aquitaine
- Île de France
Spain is the only foreign country which is crossed, during the 19th stage.
7 new start and finish cities and sites :
- Le Poiré-sur-Vie (Vendée - Pays de la Loire)
- Abreschviller (Moselle - Grand Est)
- Lac Blanc and Col du Calvaire (Haut-Rhin - Grand Est)
- Plateau d'Agy (Haute-Savoie - Auvergne-Rhône Alpes)
- La Norma (Savoie - Auvergne-Rhône Alpes)
- Col de Portet (Hautes-Pyrénées - Occitanie)
- Élancourt (Yvelines - Île de France)
There are 30 KOM sprints (HC, 1st and 2nd category), and several remembrances of WW1 : the sixth stage has its real start in Rethondes, takes the Chemin des Dames and finishes in Verdun. Then the 8th stage takes the Col de la Chapelotte road where is a memorial of 14-18 and finishes in the region where Charles Mangin, a huge French general, was born. The end of the 8th stage and the all 9th stage can be considered as a remembrance since Alsace and Moselle were successively German and French, because of several wars : in 1870-71 and 1914-18.
The ninth stage is short (132k) due to the final of FIFA World Cup in Russia. It has no bonification sprint because of the top finish at the Lac Blanc.
1. Noirmoutier-en-l'Île -> La Roche sur Yon. Flat. 183km.
The first finish is made for sprinters, with a great right line. The 70 first kilometers are along the sea and wind could have a role, like in the 20 last k. Leaders have to be careful of that if they do not want to lost time on the first day.
2. Luçon -> Mont des Alouettes - Les Herbiers. Flat. 172.5km.
This one is made for punchers or sprinters like Sagan or Boasson Hagen. Without any coast road, this stage is more secure for leaders and the punchy finish shall make the sprinters not able to take the win. By the way, the yellow jersey should change his proprietor, also because of the bonif sprint at the Puy du Fou, not far away from the finish.
3. Le Poiré-sur-Vie -> Rennes. Flat. 179km.
The sprinters can be happy, this stage is for them. No KOM sprint in this stage : it could be strange if the breakaway took the win...
4. Fougères -> Lisieux. Flat. 198.5km.
Between Bretagne and Normandy, this stage is promised for punchy sprinters, as the final is the same as 2011 when Boasson Hagen won with Goss and Hushovd just behind. The all stage is not really flat and it could be interesting for breakaways too. In 2011, Adriano Malori was caught by the peloton when entering in Lisieux, with 3k to go !
5. Lisieux -> Beauvais. Flat. 178km.
The wind should help the riders during the all route of this stage to Beauvais, in Hauts de France. Without any difficulty, except one 4th category climb in the beginning of the stage. This stage is for sprinters and for those who want the green jersey.
6. Compiègne -> Verdun. Flat. 225km.
The second longest stage of the Tour is historically strong, with a real start in Rethondes, the through of Chemin des Dames and the finish in Verdun, once again for sprinters. But in the streets of the biggest city of Meuse, riders must be really careful and an alone guy can trap the lords of the sprint. The bonif sprint, at 14k to go, is a good occasion for big rouleurs to escape, like Tony Martin, Lukas Pöstlberger or Maciej Bodnar...
7. Metz -> Metz. ITT. 33.5km.
Hilly and then flat, this ITT is really hard, because of three climbs in the first part of the route firstly, and then because of the suburbs streets the riders have to cross.This is only in the last 10k that big rouleurs could show their power, and even in the beautiful city that is Metz !
8. Tomblaine -> Abreschviller Moselle Sud. Hilly. 202.5km.
The first real climbs of the Tour arrive in the North of Vosges, in the former Lorraine region, before going to Alsace and coming back in Lorraine. Donon is the first col of the Tour, and then there are Pandours and Valsberg, which are not so difficult but could create a good breakaway. The TT of the day before could have create gaps that allow riders to attack this day. The final is really hilly with 3 categorized climbs and another where is set the bonif sprint.
There is another remembrance of WW1, in the col de la Chapelotte, km 83.5, where 2000 French soldiers died during the war.
(the finish line is set in the middle of the village, but can also be set in the site of the ancient sawmill, just a km before. However, on Street View, the sawmill still exists, and there is no place.)
9. Strasbourg Eurométropole -> Le Lac Blanc - Col du Calvaire. Hilly. 132km.
What a concentration of climbs, just before the rest day ! Strasbourg was waiting for the Tour for 12 years and it is here for the most difficult stage of the first week. The arrive is set at the Col du Calvaire, on the Lac Blanc side, for the first time in the Tour history. Before this 1st category climb, the first of the Tour (how many first times here ? ), there are four 2nd category climbs : Sainte-Odile, Charbonnière, Fouchy and Bagenelles. The guy who will be in yellow at the end of the day will surely be a strong man.
The all stage can be considered as a WW1 remembrance as Alsace re-became French at the end of the war, like Moselle, crossed the two precedent days.
There is no bonif sprint in this stage because of the top finish and the route is short due to FIFA World Cup final at 17:00.
REST DAY and transfer to Annecy.
10. Annecy -> Plateau d'Agy. Mountain. 110km.
What a short stage to begin with the Alps, but there are 3400 meters to climb ! Totally, there are 5 climbs (1 of 4th cat. and 4 of 1st cat.) : Bluffy, the new coming Plan-Bois with 6k at 9.5%, Croix-Fry, the easiest side of Colombière and the final to Agy, with 13% roads. The favorites can attack and gain time against their rivals, even at 50k to go, there is almost no flat parts !
The real start is set in Duingt, on the west side of the Annecy lake.
11. Megève -> La Norma. Mountain. 186.5km.
Quite long and really hard (4800m D+), this Alps queen stage has 2 HC and offers Souvenir Henri Desgrange at the top of the Iseran, at 2764 meters above sea level. Queige, Pré, Roselend and Iseran, with a punchy finish in La Norma, 2k at 7%, a strong breakaway could take the win, or a downhiller who is able to ride alone during 35k of a false-flat also.
12. Modane -> Grenoble. Mountain. 199.5km
That one is really long, with Croix de Fer and Grand Cucheron to begin, and the concatenation Granier-Cucheron-Porte to finish. The one who has no good feelings today can lose all hopes for the GC. There are only 3k to go after the end of the last downhill : hi Romain, that one is for you !
13. Grenoble -> Montélimar. Flat. 199km.
It is time to leave the Alps, and this flat stage can be qualified as a "transition" one. Well, it was the same in 2006, in the same arrive-city... Here, there is more than a long breakaway possibility, the wind is omnipresent in the Rhône Valley and echelons can appear. Sprinters should have the last word in Montélimar however.
14. Vaison-la-Romaine -> La Cap d'Agde. Flat. 217km.
On the profile, this stage is easy, really easy. But with the wind, along the coast, with a hard climb a 20k to go, everything is possible, like in 2012 when André Greipel won. The final is exactly the same.
15. Le Cap d'Agde -> Mazamet. Hilly. 178.5km.
It is time to find some other climbs, with the Pic de Nore here, just before the finish in Mazamet. After that, there will be a rest day, it could be an occasion for leaders to attack, or for a breakaway to take the win.
REST DAY.
16. Carcassonne -> Auch. Flat. 191km.
Not fully flat, that stage is however made for sprinters, the last occasion before the Champs Élysées. After that, there will be climbs everywhere.
17. Auch -> Bagnères-de-Luchon. Mountain. 175km.
The beginning of Pyrénées is quite classic, with Menté and Balès. There can be two races in one : in a breakaway and behind that for the GC. The downhill here can be important also.
18. Bagnères-de-Luchon -> Saint-Lary-Soulan - Col de Portet. Mountain. 65.5km.
I kept the real route for this stage, which is the 17th in the real Tour. Its structure is very interesting, and promises an explosive day. Peyragudes, Azet and the new coming Portet are perfect to create some gaps and change the GC. There is the highest finish point of the Tour at the col de Portet BTW.
19. Lourdes -> Laruns. Mountain. 235km.
And what the bloody hell is that ? The longest stage of the Tour, two days before Paris ? Jesus ! You are just mad ! Yes, and I like it.
Aubisque, Pourtalet, Somport and Marie-Blanque to finish the mountain stages of this Tour. With the only foreign escape of the three weeks, this is the last occasion to gain time for climbers before the TT tomorrow. Those who has no legs on this stage could lose everything here.
20. Oloron-Sainte-Marie -> Pau. ITT. 45km.
Without real flat parts, it is a Dumoulin TT. With some technical parts, it will be important to stay on the bike before all. Gaps can be consequent.
After that, everybody will take the plane from Pau Pyrénées to Paris.
21. Élancourt -> Paris Champs Élysées. Flat. 100.5km.
Fictional start at France Miniature park, and the traditional finish on the most beautiful avenue in the world...
I hope you will enjoy this second route, and yours will be good also !
Antonin
I added the bonification sprints on my first route which can be found here : maps/tours/view/8893. In this second route, there are also these sprints in seven stages of the first week, in a total of 8 inline stages. I am sorry but I have no time to show you each profile this time, but I'll introduce you some details about the route and the different stages.
It contains :
- 3411 kilometers.
- 10 flat stages including 2 uphill finishes.
- 3 hilly stages with a top finish at Lac Blanc.
- 6 mountain stages with 2 top finishes and a punchy final in La Norma.
- 2 individual time trials, in Metz and in Pau.
- 2 rest days, after stages 9 and 15.
10 crossed regions :
- Pays de la Loire
- Bretagne
- Normandie
- Hauts de France
- Grand Est
- Auvergne - Rhône Alpes
- Provence Alpes Côte-d'Azur
- Occitanie
- Nouvelle Aquitaine
- Île de France
Spain is the only foreign country which is crossed, during the 19th stage.
7 new start and finish cities and sites :
- Le Poiré-sur-Vie (Vendée - Pays de la Loire)
- Abreschviller (Moselle - Grand Est)
- Lac Blanc and Col du Calvaire (Haut-Rhin - Grand Est)
- Plateau d'Agy (Haute-Savoie - Auvergne-Rhône Alpes)
- La Norma (Savoie - Auvergne-Rhône Alpes)
- Col de Portet (Hautes-Pyrénées - Occitanie)
- Élancourt (Yvelines - Île de France)
There are 30 KOM sprints (HC, 1st and 2nd category), and several remembrances of WW1 : the sixth stage has its real start in Rethondes, takes the Chemin des Dames and finishes in Verdun. Then the 8th stage takes the Col de la Chapelotte road where is a memorial of 14-18 and finishes in the region where Charles Mangin, a huge French general, was born. The end of the 8th stage and the all 9th stage can be considered as a remembrance since Alsace and Moselle were successively German and French, because of several wars : in 1870-71 and 1914-18.
The ninth stage is short (132k) due to the final of FIFA World Cup in Russia. It has no bonification sprint because of the top finish at the Lac Blanc.
1. Noirmoutier-en-l'Île -> La Roche sur Yon. Flat. 183km.
The first finish is made for sprinters, with a great right line. The 70 first kilometers are along the sea and wind could have a role, like in the 20 last k. Leaders have to be careful of that if they do not want to lost time on the first day.
2. Luçon -> Mont des Alouettes - Les Herbiers. Flat. 172.5km.
This one is made for punchers or sprinters like Sagan or Boasson Hagen. Without any coast road, this stage is more secure for leaders and the punchy finish shall make the sprinters not able to take the win. By the way, the yellow jersey should change his proprietor, also because of the bonif sprint at the Puy du Fou, not far away from the finish.
3. Le Poiré-sur-Vie -> Rennes. Flat. 179km.
The sprinters can be happy, this stage is for them. No KOM sprint in this stage : it could be strange if the breakaway took the win...
4. Fougères -> Lisieux. Flat. 198.5km.
Between Bretagne and Normandy, this stage is promised for punchy sprinters, as the final is the same as 2011 when Boasson Hagen won with Goss and Hushovd just behind. The all stage is not really flat and it could be interesting for breakaways too. In 2011, Adriano Malori was caught by the peloton when entering in Lisieux, with 3k to go !
5. Lisieux -> Beauvais. Flat. 178km.
The wind should help the riders during the all route of this stage to Beauvais, in Hauts de France. Without any difficulty, except one 4th category climb in the beginning of the stage. This stage is for sprinters and for those who want the green jersey.
6. Compiègne -> Verdun. Flat. 225km.
The second longest stage of the Tour is historically strong, with a real start in Rethondes, the through of Chemin des Dames and the finish in Verdun, once again for sprinters. But in the streets of the biggest city of Meuse, riders must be really careful and an alone guy can trap the lords of the sprint. The bonif sprint, at 14k to go, is a good occasion for big rouleurs to escape, like Tony Martin, Lukas Pöstlberger or Maciej Bodnar...
7. Metz -> Metz. ITT. 33.5km.
Hilly and then flat, this ITT is really hard, because of three climbs in the first part of the route firstly, and then because of the suburbs streets the riders have to cross.This is only in the last 10k that big rouleurs could show their power, and even in the beautiful city that is Metz !
8. Tomblaine -> Abreschviller Moselle Sud. Hilly. 202.5km.
The first real climbs of the Tour arrive in the North of Vosges, in the former Lorraine region, before going to Alsace and coming back in Lorraine. Donon is the first col of the Tour, and then there are Pandours and Valsberg, which are not so difficult but could create a good breakaway. The TT of the day before could have create gaps that allow riders to attack this day. The final is really hilly with 3 categorized climbs and another where is set the bonif sprint.
There is another remembrance of WW1, in the col de la Chapelotte, km 83.5, where 2000 French soldiers died during the war.
(the finish line is set in the middle of the village, but can also be set in the site of the ancient sawmill, just a km before. However, on Street View, the sawmill still exists, and there is no place.)
9. Strasbourg Eurométropole -> Le Lac Blanc - Col du Calvaire. Hilly. 132km.
What a concentration of climbs, just before the rest day ! Strasbourg was waiting for the Tour for 12 years and it is here for the most difficult stage of the first week. The arrive is set at the Col du Calvaire, on the Lac Blanc side, for the first time in the Tour history. Before this 1st category climb, the first of the Tour (how many first times here ? ), there are four 2nd category climbs : Sainte-Odile, Charbonnière, Fouchy and Bagenelles. The guy who will be in yellow at the end of the day will surely be a strong man.
The all stage can be considered as a WW1 remembrance as Alsace re-became French at the end of the war, like Moselle, crossed the two precedent days.
There is no bonif sprint in this stage because of the top finish and the route is short due to FIFA World Cup final at 17:00.
REST DAY and transfer to Annecy.
10. Annecy -> Plateau d'Agy. Mountain. 110km.
What a short stage to begin with the Alps, but there are 3400 meters to climb ! Totally, there are 5 climbs (1 of 4th cat. and 4 of 1st cat.) : Bluffy, the new coming Plan-Bois with 6k at 9.5%, Croix-Fry, the easiest side of Colombière and the final to Agy, with 13% roads. The favorites can attack and gain time against their rivals, even at 50k to go, there is almost no flat parts !
The real start is set in Duingt, on the west side of the Annecy lake.
11. Megève -> La Norma. Mountain. 186.5km.
Quite long and really hard (4800m D+), this Alps queen stage has 2 HC and offers Souvenir Henri Desgrange at the top of the Iseran, at 2764 meters above sea level. Queige, Pré, Roselend and Iseran, with a punchy finish in La Norma, 2k at 7%, a strong breakaway could take the win, or a downhiller who is able to ride alone during 35k of a false-flat also.
12. Modane -> Grenoble. Mountain. 199.5km
That one is really long, with Croix de Fer and Grand Cucheron to begin, and the concatenation Granier-Cucheron-Porte to finish. The one who has no good feelings today can lose all hopes for the GC. There are only 3k to go after the end of the last downhill : hi Romain, that one is for you !
13. Grenoble -> Montélimar. Flat. 199km.
It is time to leave the Alps, and this flat stage can be qualified as a "transition" one. Well, it was the same in 2006, in the same arrive-city... Here, there is more than a long breakaway possibility, the wind is omnipresent in the Rhône Valley and echelons can appear. Sprinters should have the last word in Montélimar however.
14. Vaison-la-Romaine -> La Cap d'Agde. Flat. 217km.
On the profile, this stage is easy, really easy. But with the wind, along the coast, with a hard climb a 20k to go, everything is possible, like in 2012 when André Greipel won. The final is exactly the same.
15. Le Cap d'Agde -> Mazamet. Hilly. 178.5km.
It is time to find some other climbs, with the Pic de Nore here, just before the finish in Mazamet. After that, there will be a rest day, it could be an occasion for leaders to attack, or for a breakaway to take the win.
REST DAY.
16. Carcassonne -> Auch. Flat. 191km.
Not fully flat, that stage is however made for sprinters, the last occasion before the Champs Élysées. After that, there will be climbs everywhere.
17. Auch -> Bagnères-de-Luchon. Mountain. 175km.
The beginning of Pyrénées is quite classic, with Menté and Balès. There can be two races in one : in a breakaway and behind that for the GC. The downhill here can be important also.
18. Bagnères-de-Luchon -> Saint-Lary-Soulan - Col de Portet. Mountain. 65.5km.
I kept the real route for this stage, which is the 17th in the real Tour. Its structure is very interesting, and promises an explosive day. Peyragudes, Azet and the new coming Portet are perfect to create some gaps and change the GC. There is the highest finish point of the Tour at the col de Portet BTW.
19. Lourdes -> Laruns. Mountain. 235km.
And what the bloody hell is that ? The longest stage of the Tour, two days before Paris ? Jesus ! You are just mad ! Yes, and I like it.
Aubisque, Pourtalet, Somport and Marie-Blanque to finish the mountain stages of this Tour. With the only foreign escape of the three weeks, this is the last occasion to gain time for climbers before the TT tomorrow. Those who has no legs on this stage could lose everything here.
20. Oloron-Sainte-Marie -> Pau. ITT. 45km.
Without real flat parts, it is a Dumoulin TT. With some technical parts, it will be important to stay on the bike before all. Gaps can be consequent.
After that, everybody will take the plane from Pau Pyrénées to Paris.
21. Élancourt -> Paris Champs Élysées. Flat. 100.5km.
Fictional start at France Miniature park, and the traditional finish on the most beautiful avenue in the world...
I hope you will enjoy this second route, and yours will be good also !
Antonin
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
My first and only route for contest: maps/tours/view/9936
TDF with Grand Depart in Vendée region.
Expected sprint stages are: 2-3, 6-7, 10, 16, 21.
In total 5 mountain ranges will be visited: Massif Central in stages 8-9, Vosges in stage 11, Jura in stage 12, Alpes in stages 13-15 and Pyrenees in stages 18-20.
TDF will have 7 high mountain stages with 4 mountain top finishes (Val Thorens, Chamrousse, Plateau de Beille and Le Mourtis) and 4 medium mountain stages with 3 hilltop finishes (Landerneau, Mont-Dore and Lausanne).
ITTs will be held in Stages 1 and 17, TTT in Stage 5.
WW1 will be commemorated at the start of Stage 11 (Mulhouse) and Stage 21 (Compiègne).
Switzerland will be the only foreign country visited.
1. TDF kicks off with 15km dead flat ITT around Challans in Vendée region.
2. First road stage of the Tour, designed for sprinters to win.
3. TDF leaves Vendée region heading towards Bretagne. Stage 3 is also designed for sprinters.
4. Spring classic type stage in Bretagne with eleven small climbs, including 3rd category hilltop finish. Stage 4 should create initial selection among for GC contenders.
5. After difficult spring classic type stage 34km TTT will be held.
6. Stage for sprinters. Short false flat section in Laval should not prevent bunch sprint.
7. Last stage for sprinters before Massif Central.
8. First stage in Massif Central will be 215km long affair with hilltop finish in Station du Mont-Dore, new to Tour. Road will constantly go uphill during the stage.
9. Short but difficult stage in Massif Central with three 2nd category climbs on FIFA World Cup final day. All three climbs are new to Tour. Last stage before rest day.
10. After rest day Tour resumes with a flat stage for sprinters. It will be the only chance for sprinters in the second week.
11. First high mountain stage will start in Gray near to Dijon and will go through the Vosges Mountains. The main difficulties will be located in the second part of the stage when riders will climb legendary Ballon d'Alsace followed by the very steep Vue des Alpes and first category Grand Ballon just 7km before arrival in Le Markstein. It will be the first time Grand Ballon is placed so close before finish. At the start of the stage the Battle of Mulhouse of WW1 will be commemorated.
12. After the Vosges Mountains the riders will briefly visit Swiss part of the Jura Mountains. Stage for breakaway with GC action on very steep uphill finish in Lausanne.
13. First Alpine stage will be all about MTF at Val Thorens, the highest point of the Tour (2275m). Val Thorens is not the steepest climb but its 32km length and 1800m height difference will be the moment of truth for GC riders.
14. Alpine trilogy with classical Madeleine and Glandon as well as MTF at Chamrousse via very steep and narrow Luitel. It will be the first time Chamrousse is climbed via Luitel. Queen stage of the Tour despite its relatively short length.
15. Third and final Alpine stage is between classical TDF cities Grenoble and Gap. Riders will climb very steep Laffrey and Parquetout in first part of the stage followed by series of smaller climbs. The stage will be decided on 1st category Col de Moissière 22km before finish. Last stage before rest day.
16. After the second rest day TDF resumes with 200km+ flat stage for sprinters. Three early minor hills should not prevent bunch sprint.
17. Just before three crucial Pyrenees stages flat 42km ITT between Frontignan and Bessan will be held. The only difficulty will be Mont-Saint-Clair early in the stage.
18. First Pyrennes stage will be a long affair with brutal Pailhères and Plateau de Beille combo. It will be only the second time these two climbs are used in the same stage.
19. Short stage in Pyrennes with four difficult climbs, including uphill finish at Mourtis ski station. Le Mourtis is 1km extension of widely used Col de Menté climb.
20. Final stage in Pyrenees and the last chance for riders to make significant changes in GC. Stage will climb the legendary Aspin, Tourmalet and Solour followed by the debut of 1st. category Col de Spandelles and 15.5km decent to Argelès-Gazost.
21. Traditional sprint in Paris. WW1 will be commemorated in Compiègne.
TDF with Grand Depart in Vendée region.
Expected sprint stages are: 2-3, 6-7, 10, 16, 21.
In total 5 mountain ranges will be visited: Massif Central in stages 8-9, Vosges in stage 11, Jura in stage 12, Alpes in stages 13-15 and Pyrenees in stages 18-20.
TDF will have 7 high mountain stages with 4 mountain top finishes (Val Thorens, Chamrousse, Plateau de Beille and Le Mourtis) and 4 medium mountain stages with 3 hilltop finishes (Landerneau, Mont-Dore and Lausanne).
ITTs will be held in Stages 1 and 17, TTT in Stage 5.
WW1 will be commemorated at the start of Stage 11 (Mulhouse) and Stage 21 (Compiègne).
Switzerland will be the only foreign country visited.
1. TDF kicks off with 15km dead flat ITT around Challans in Vendée region.
2. First road stage of the Tour, designed for sprinters to win.
3. TDF leaves Vendée region heading towards Bretagne. Stage 3 is also designed for sprinters.
4. Spring classic type stage in Bretagne with eleven small climbs, including 3rd category hilltop finish. Stage 4 should create initial selection among for GC contenders.
5. After difficult spring classic type stage 34km TTT will be held.
6. Stage for sprinters. Short false flat section in Laval should not prevent bunch sprint.
7. Last stage for sprinters before Massif Central.
8. First stage in Massif Central will be 215km long affair with hilltop finish in Station du Mont-Dore, new to Tour. Road will constantly go uphill during the stage.
9. Short but difficult stage in Massif Central with three 2nd category climbs on FIFA World Cup final day. All three climbs are new to Tour. Last stage before rest day.
10. After rest day Tour resumes with a flat stage for sprinters. It will be the only chance for sprinters in the second week.
11. First high mountain stage will start in Gray near to Dijon and will go through the Vosges Mountains. The main difficulties will be located in the second part of the stage when riders will climb legendary Ballon d'Alsace followed by the very steep Vue des Alpes and first category Grand Ballon just 7km before arrival in Le Markstein. It will be the first time Grand Ballon is placed so close before finish. At the start of the stage the Battle of Mulhouse of WW1 will be commemorated.
12. After the Vosges Mountains the riders will briefly visit Swiss part of the Jura Mountains. Stage for breakaway with GC action on very steep uphill finish in Lausanne.
13. First Alpine stage will be all about MTF at Val Thorens, the highest point of the Tour (2275m). Val Thorens is not the steepest climb but its 32km length and 1800m height difference will be the moment of truth for GC riders.
14. Alpine trilogy with classical Madeleine and Glandon as well as MTF at Chamrousse via very steep and narrow Luitel. It will be the first time Chamrousse is climbed via Luitel. Queen stage of the Tour despite its relatively short length.
15. Third and final Alpine stage is between classical TDF cities Grenoble and Gap. Riders will climb very steep Laffrey and Parquetout in first part of the stage followed by series of smaller climbs. The stage will be decided on 1st category Col de Moissière 22km before finish. Last stage before rest day.
16. After the second rest day TDF resumes with 200km+ flat stage for sprinters. Three early minor hills should not prevent bunch sprint.
17. Just before three crucial Pyrenees stages flat 42km ITT between Frontignan and Bessan will be held. The only difficulty will be Mont-Saint-Clair early in the stage.
18. First Pyrennes stage will be a long affair with brutal Pailhères and Plateau de Beille combo. It will be only the second time these two climbs are used in the same stage.
19. Short stage in Pyrennes with four difficult climbs, including uphill finish at Mourtis ski station. Le Mourtis is 1km extension of widely used Col de Menté climb.
20. Final stage in Pyrenees and the last chance for riders to make significant changes in GC. Stage will climb the legendary Aspin, Tourmalet and Solour followed by the debut of 1st. category Col de Spandelles and 15.5km decent to Argelès-Gazost.
21. Traditional sprint in Paris. WW1 will be commemorated in Compiègne.
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Hi I present you now my version of the tour de France 2018: As a general comment I like to do 3-week-races giving the same importance to the medium and high mountain, and trying not to repeat so many similar high-climbs at the end of the stages. I think that with 5 or 6 mountain stages (well designed) it’s enough if the medium mountain takes an important part on the tour.
Link: maps/tours/view/9927
Resume:
Stage 1: Noirmoutier-en-l'Île > Fontenay-le-Comte
The first stage it’s exactly the same as real TdF 2018. Very flat stage and high chances to see a massive sprint at the end of the stage. It’s the first opportunity to sprinters to win a stage, and to take the yellow jersey.
Stage 2: Mouilleron-Saint-Germain > Le Mont des Alouettes
The second stage keeps the same start as the real TdF, but the finish changes to Mont des Alouettes (2011 finish). It continues with a flat terrain until the first half of the stage, but in the last 50 km starts a continue “up and down” road. This is a good area to combative riders to try to surprise the peloton in the lasts km and take the yellow jersey. Although Mont des Alouettes it’s the first chance to the up-hill-finishers.
Stage 3: Saumur > Montargis
This is the longest stage of the Tour, 255 km length, it has less to comment, and it is a transition stage and the second opportunity to the sprinters to take a victory. Totally flat stage.
Stage 4: Sens > Verdun
Another long stage finishing at Verdun, one important place of the WWI. Mainly it’s a flat stage with some hills distributed along the route. In the last 40 km there are some little hills that can play against to some sprinters if the pace is high. Forecast of a massive sprint but the last part of the stage can give more extra life to the breakaway.
Stage 5: Metz > Neufchâteau
Second hilly stage of the Tour and short stage. Again good opportunity to combative riders and a good chance for the breakaway, the race takes part in difficult roads to take the control by the peloton, and the numerous hills will be an extra handicap to organize the chase.
Stage 6: Chaumont > Langres
First time trial of the race, and it will be by teams. This force to the teams to make a team with several good time-trialers and rouleurs for this stage. It’s a medium distance for a time trial and maybe this force to the favorite teams in the before stages to put riders in the front of the race or attacking in the lasts km of the hilly finishes, trying to win several time to have a good position for the team time trial.
This time trial goes along the Marne river, another important place of the WWI. The whole time trial it is next to the river. And with this type of stage is possible to give more emphasis to specific places to show. It is going to pass more than one time by the entire route.
Stage 7: Vesoul > le Gaschney
First contact with the “real” mountain in the Tour but it will be in a medium mountain stage. The stage is mainly flat until Giromagny where the road starts to ascend. Since this point there will be no more flat areas with different kind of climbs. The last one le Gaschney (a small snow station), aprox 7 km at 6,5% slope very regular and consistent. It will be the first moment to see the favorite riders fighting in this climb.
Stage 8: Belfort > Nyon
Another transition stage, descending by the east part of France. No relevant climbs in this stage and finishing in Switzerland. Stage for sprinters or a breakaway
Stage 9: Chevry > Le Grand Bornard
And now the first mountain stage, masks off. This is the day of the World Cup Final so the stage will be short, only 120 km. Simple stage with 2 consecutive 1st category climbs. Ramaz and Colombiere with the fast descend to Le Grand Bornard. Ramaz could be a good place to advance several team-mates trying to help the leader in the last climb. Important to realize that the day-after is a rest day, this fact can give more battle added to the short stage.
REST DAY
Stage 10: Cluses > Col du Granier
Medium mountain stage after the rest day. Race will be calm until start the Mont Revard, the most difficult point of the day. Again a good place to move the race because it has a long descend and then starts softly the ascend to the 3 consecutive final ports. The firsts 2 of them are climbs of 4-5 km with a 7-8% as an average slope. In Col du Granier the slope decreases until around 6%.
It’s a very open stage with possibilities for breakaways, leaders and combative riders. All depends on the attitude, but the rest day before that stage can help.
Stage 11: Albertville > Briançon
Stage with a simple design with classic climbs, but with a massive denivel+: 5900 meters, the highest in this Tour. The long descend of Galibier could be a brake to do attacks, but the stage is thought for make a high wear on the riders. Maybe will not be a stage to win the Tour, but sure somebody can lose lot of minutes if the fatigue comes up.
Stage 12: Embrun > Avignon
Another transition and long stage. Important to remark it’s a stage after three days of battle and a stage with more descend than ascend terrain. So a very favorable chance to breakaways, and also for the typical breakaway than advantages the peloton a lot of time at the finish line. Any important rider with time lost could be a chance to entry again in the overall classification. As an attractive point, the stage descends part of the Mont Ventoux
Stage 13: Nîmes > Port-la-Nouvelle
A coast stage near the Mediterranean Sea, the stage has no special climbs and another chance for sprinters. Watch out with the wind.
Stage 14: Perpignan > Ax-3-Domaines
Now is time for the queen stage of the Tour, up and down continued since km 25 and with entity climbs. 4800 denivel+ meters. First 2 ports perfects to make a consistent breakaway, and then the long Coll de Jau with the last 9 km around 7%, then the short Garavel before the port of the day: Palhieres, a huge pass with 14 km at 8.3% average, after all climbs of the day, here the peloton must be reduced only for the favorites riders, letting for Ax-3-Domaines a fight face-to-face the strong mans of the Tour and without teams controlling. Another stage where is possible to lose a lot of time if anyone lose contact in Palhieres or before. To sum up: a perfect stage to move to attack.
Stage 15: Foix > Saint-Girons
End of the second week of the race, and it ends with a “dangerous stage”. Flat stage until reach to the only one climb of the day, Col de la Crouzette, the firsts km of the port are not anything special, only to keep a good position for the second half of the port: 3 km always over 10 % slope, and with one km at 13% average. It’s a climb to make the peloton explode. Watch out with lose contact, after the climb (with a technical descend) there is a difficult terrain to organize any chase where de differences can increase.
Again, this stage is before the second rest day, so this can encourage the riders to have an aggressive attitude.
REST DAY
Stage 16: Le-Puy-en-Velay > Puy de Dôme
Fourth mountain stage of the Tour and the last one with a hard ending, le Puy de Dôme. Recurrent final in 70s and 80s, that I wanted to recover to have more mountain stages beyond the Pyrenees and Alps. The stage is only focused in that emblematic climb with the last 5 km over the 11%
Stage 17: Ussel > Saint-Paul
Individual long time trial (58 km), mainly flat but with several hilly parts, but in general favorable to time-trialers and rouleurs, it’s the time to recover time or to advantage the rivals for people like Dumoulin before the two last mountain days. The time-trial is enough long to create a big gap for specialists.
Stage 18: Aurillac > Montauban
Last transition stage to come-back to the Pyrenees, last opportunity to sprinters before Paris to win a stage.
Stage 19: Auch > Gavarnie
Last top-climb-ending of the race, but the important area to define the race is far from the finish line. First half totally flat, but later 4 consecutive climbs, starting with Aspin and followed by the classic Tourmalet, if the rhythm is high, here it’s the place to select the race, and in Gaborisse the place to start the battle because the last one, Gavarnie, has no exceptional slopes to define the race, it’s a perfect place to see chases caused in the before climbs. Perfect scenario to turn over the overall classification, and make big differences.
Stage 20: Pau > Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port
Last chance to gain positions, with an unclear stage. Again a stage with 5600 denivel+ meters so high wear for the last stage, added to day-before-stage there is a lot of possibilities to see riders exhausted in any place of the stage. The stage has every type of climbs, and transition areas to play with the team just in case. Last important climb, Bagargui can decide the stage and maybe the Tour. A very open scenario to try different tactics to make the race attractive and to turn over again the overall TdF classification.
Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port is 50 km far from Bayonne, a city that has a TVG connection with Paris
Stage 21: Houilles > Paris Champs Elysees
Last stage of de TdF and will be the same as real stage, stage to enjoy the results reached during the whole race and to see the last classic sprint of the TdF.
Link: maps/tours/view/9927
Resume:
Stage 1: Noirmoutier-en-l'Île > Fontenay-le-Comte
The first stage it’s exactly the same as real TdF 2018. Very flat stage and high chances to see a massive sprint at the end of the stage. It’s the first opportunity to sprinters to win a stage, and to take the yellow jersey.
Stage 2: Mouilleron-Saint-Germain > Le Mont des Alouettes
The second stage keeps the same start as the real TdF, but the finish changes to Mont des Alouettes (2011 finish). It continues with a flat terrain until the first half of the stage, but in the last 50 km starts a continue “up and down” road. This is a good area to combative riders to try to surprise the peloton in the lasts km and take the yellow jersey. Although Mont des Alouettes it’s the first chance to the up-hill-finishers.
Stage 3: Saumur > Montargis
This is the longest stage of the Tour, 255 km length, it has less to comment, and it is a transition stage and the second opportunity to the sprinters to take a victory. Totally flat stage.
Stage 4: Sens > Verdun
Another long stage finishing at Verdun, one important place of the WWI. Mainly it’s a flat stage with some hills distributed along the route. In the last 40 km there are some little hills that can play against to some sprinters if the pace is high. Forecast of a massive sprint but the last part of the stage can give more extra life to the breakaway.
Stage 5: Metz > Neufchâteau
Second hilly stage of the Tour and short stage. Again good opportunity to combative riders and a good chance for the breakaway, the race takes part in difficult roads to take the control by the peloton, and the numerous hills will be an extra handicap to organize the chase.
Stage 6: Chaumont > Langres
First time trial of the race, and it will be by teams. This force to the teams to make a team with several good time-trialers and rouleurs for this stage. It’s a medium distance for a time trial and maybe this force to the favorite teams in the before stages to put riders in the front of the race or attacking in the lasts km of the hilly finishes, trying to win several time to have a good position for the team time trial.
This time trial goes along the Marne river, another important place of the WWI. The whole time trial it is next to the river. And with this type of stage is possible to give more emphasis to specific places to show. It is going to pass more than one time by the entire route.
Stage 7: Vesoul > le Gaschney
First contact with the “real” mountain in the Tour but it will be in a medium mountain stage. The stage is mainly flat until Giromagny where the road starts to ascend. Since this point there will be no more flat areas with different kind of climbs. The last one le Gaschney (a small snow station), aprox 7 km at 6,5% slope very regular and consistent. It will be the first moment to see the favorite riders fighting in this climb.
Stage 8: Belfort > Nyon
Another transition stage, descending by the east part of France. No relevant climbs in this stage and finishing in Switzerland. Stage for sprinters or a breakaway
Stage 9: Chevry > Le Grand Bornard
And now the first mountain stage, masks off. This is the day of the World Cup Final so the stage will be short, only 120 km. Simple stage with 2 consecutive 1st category climbs. Ramaz and Colombiere with the fast descend to Le Grand Bornard. Ramaz could be a good place to advance several team-mates trying to help the leader in the last climb. Important to realize that the day-after is a rest day, this fact can give more battle added to the short stage.
REST DAY
Stage 10: Cluses > Col du Granier
Medium mountain stage after the rest day. Race will be calm until start the Mont Revard, the most difficult point of the day. Again a good place to move the race because it has a long descend and then starts softly the ascend to the 3 consecutive final ports. The firsts 2 of them are climbs of 4-5 km with a 7-8% as an average slope. In Col du Granier the slope decreases until around 6%.
It’s a very open stage with possibilities for breakaways, leaders and combative riders. All depends on the attitude, but the rest day before that stage can help.
Stage 11: Albertville > Briançon
Stage with a simple design with classic climbs, but with a massive denivel+: 5900 meters, the highest in this Tour. The long descend of Galibier could be a brake to do attacks, but the stage is thought for make a high wear on the riders. Maybe will not be a stage to win the Tour, but sure somebody can lose lot of minutes if the fatigue comes up.
Stage 12: Embrun > Avignon
Another transition and long stage. Important to remark it’s a stage after three days of battle and a stage with more descend than ascend terrain. So a very favorable chance to breakaways, and also for the typical breakaway than advantages the peloton a lot of time at the finish line. Any important rider with time lost could be a chance to entry again in the overall classification. As an attractive point, the stage descends part of the Mont Ventoux
Stage 13: Nîmes > Port-la-Nouvelle
A coast stage near the Mediterranean Sea, the stage has no special climbs and another chance for sprinters. Watch out with the wind.
Stage 14: Perpignan > Ax-3-Domaines
Now is time for the queen stage of the Tour, up and down continued since km 25 and with entity climbs. 4800 denivel+ meters. First 2 ports perfects to make a consistent breakaway, and then the long Coll de Jau with the last 9 km around 7%, then the short Garavel before the port of the day: Palhieres, a huge pass with 14 km at 8.3% average, after all climbs of the day, here the peloton must be reduced only for the favorites riders, letting for Ax-3-Domaines a fight face-to-face the strong mans of the Tour and without teams controlling. Another stage where is possible to lose a lot of time if anyone lose contact in Palhieres or before. To sum up: a perfect stage to move to attack.
Stage 15: Foix > Saint-Girons
End of the second week of the race, and it ends with a “dangerous stage”. Flat stage until reach to the only one climb of the day, Col de la Crouzette, the firsts km of the port are not anything special, only to keep a good position for the second half of the port: 3 km always over 10 % slope, and with one km at 13% average. It’s a climb to make the peloton explode. Watch out with lose contact, after the climb (with a technical descend) there is a difficult terrain to organize any chase where de differences can increase.
Again, this stage is before the second rest day, so this can encourage the riders to have an aggressive attitude.
REST DAY
Stage 16: Le-Puy-en-Velay > Puy de Dôme
Fourth mountain stage of the Tour and the last one with a hard ending, le Puy de Dôme. Recurrent final in 70s and 80s, that I wanted to recover to have more mountain stages beyond the Pyrenees and Alps. The stage is only focused in that emblematic climb with the last 5 km over the 11%
Stage 17: Ussel > Saint-Paul
Individual long time trial (58 km), mainly flat but with several hilly parts, but in general favorable to time-trialers and rouleurs, it’s the time to recover time or to advantage the rivals for people like Dumoulin before the two last mountain days. The time-trial is enough long to create a big gap for specialists.
Stage 18: Aurillac > Montauban
Last transition stage to come-back to the Pyrenees, last opportunity to sprinters before Paris to win a stage.
Stage 19: Auch > Gavarnie
Last top-climb-ending of the race, but the important area to define the race is far from the finish line. First half totally flat, but later 4 consecutive climbs, starting with Aspin and followed by the classic Tourmalet, if the rhythm is high, here it’s the place to select the race, and in Gaborisse the place to start the battle because the last one, Gavarnie, has no exceptional slopes to define the race, it’s a perfect place to see chases caused in the before climbs. Perfect scenario to turn over the overall classification, and make big differences.
Stage 20: Pau > Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port
Last chance to gain positions, with an unclear stage. Again a stage with 5600 denivel+ meters so high wear for the last stage, added to day-before-stage there is a lot of possibilities to see riders exhausted in any place of the stage. The stage has every type of climbs, and transition areas to play with the team just in case. Last important climb, Bagargui can decide the stage and maybe the Tour. A very open scenario to try different tactics to make the race attractive and to turn over again the overall TdF classification.
Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port is 50 km far from Bayonne, a city that has a TVG connection with Paris
Stage 21: Houilles > Paris Champs Elysees
Last stage of de TdF and will be the same as real stage, stage to enjoy the results reached during the whole race and to see the last classic sprint of the TdF.
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Re: Tour de France 2018 (Cat. 1, deadline on 7/7)
Matklimmertje's Tour de France 2018
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Plain: #5
Medium Mountain: #6
High Mountain: #8
ITT: #1
TTT: #1
Stage1: Saint-Nazaire - Mortagne-sur-sèvre 191 km
Flat Stage
Stage2: Bressuire - Les Rivailles 207 km
Punchy finish
Stage3: Limoges - Belvès 222 km
hill stage
last 1.4 km @ 4.4%
last climb (top @13km)
Stage4: Bordeaux - Bordeaux 22 km
Team Time Trial
Stage5: Cadillac - Tartas 165 km
Flat stage
Stage6: Bayonne - Saint-Jean-de-Luz 137 km
Medium Mountain Stage
Col d'Ibardin (top @ 13 km)
Stage7: Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port - Port de Larrau 123 km
First big mountain stage with arrival uphill
profile last climb:
Stage8: Oloron-Sainte-Marie - Pau 154 km
due to the difficulties en route a B.A stage
last climb @ 9km:
Stage9: Pau - Arreau 154 km
Moutain stage
last climb @ 12 km:
Restday
Stage10: Bagnères-de-Luchon - Camurac 211 km
Mountain Stage
last 2 climbs:
Stage11: Luzenac - Station de Puyvalador 118 km
Short Mountain Stage
last 2 climbs:
Stage12: Perpignan - Beziers 164 km
Sprinters stage (last 1.3 km @ 3%)
Stage13: Agde - Frontignac 31 km
Individual Time Trial
a steep hill halfway:
Stage14: Salon-de-Provence - Toulon 163 km
Mountain Stage
last climb (top @ 11km):
Stage15: Toulon - Montagne de Lure 164 km
last climb finish uphill:
Stage16: Sisteron - Notre-damme de la salette 168 km
last climb (topfinish):
Restday
Stage17: Mens - Grénoble 165 km
Stage18: Génoble - Col du Chaussy 194 km
Mountain stage
last climb (top finish):
Stage19: Albertville - Mont Revard 160 km
Mountain stage
last climb (top finish):
Stage20: Annecy - Col du Grand Colombier 188 km
queen`s stage
last 3 climbs:
Stage21: Melun - Paris 106 km
Sprinters stage
maps/tours/view/9279
Plain: #5
Medium Mountain: #6
High Mountain: #8
ITT: #1
TTT: #1
Stage1: Saint-Nazaire - Mortagne-sur-sèvre 191 km
Flat Stage
Stage2: Bressuire - Les Rivailles 207 km
Punchy finish
Stage3: Limoges - Belvès 222 km
hill stage
last 1.4 km @ 4.4%
last climb (top @13km)
Stage4: Bordeaux - Bordeaux 22 km
Team Time Trial
Stage5: Cadillac - Tartas 165 km
Flat stage
Stage6: Bayonne - Saint-Jean-de-Luz 137 km
Medium Mountain Stage
Col d'Ibardin (top @ 13 km)
Stage7: Saint-Jean-Pied-de-Port - Port de Larrau 123 km
First big mountain stage with arrival uphill
profile last climb:
Stage8: Oloron-Sainte-Marie - Pau 154 km
due to the difficulties en route a B.A stage
last climb @ 9km:
Stage9: Pau - Arreau 154 km
Moutain stage
last climb @ 12 km:
Restday
Stage10: Bagnères-de-Luchon - Camurac 211 km
Mountain Stage
last 2 climbs:
Stage11: Luzenac - Station de Puyvalador 118 km
Short Mountain Stage
last 2 climbs:
Stage12: Perpignan - Beziers 164 km
Sprinters stage (last 1.3 km @ 3%)
Stage13: Agde - Frontignac 31 km
Individual Time Trial
a steep hill halfway:
Stage14: Salon-de-Provence - Toulon 163 km
Mountain Stage
last climb (top @ 11km):
Stage15: Toulon - Montagne de Lure 164 km
last climb finish uphill:
Stage16: Sisteron - Notre-damme de la salette 168 km
last climb (topfinish):
Restday
Stage17: Mens - Grénoble 165 km
Stage18: Génoble - Col du Chaussy 194 km
Mountain stage
last climb (top finish):
Stage19: Albertville - Mont Revard 160 km
Mountain stage
last climb (top finish):
Stage20: Annecy - Col du Grand Colombier 188 km
queen`s stage
last 3 climbs:
Stage21: Melun - Paris 106 km
Sprinters stage