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Tour de France 2022 Contest
Tour de France 2022 Contest
Since it doesn't look like the voting is going to start, I'm going to start the 2022 Tour de France Contest.
Rules:
The first 3 stages should be in Denmark
The race can visit other countries but not Andorra
The race should finish on Champs-Élysées
The key-points of 2021 cannot be used
The UCI-rules should be followed (Max 3500 kilometers, no half-stages etc.)
The deadline is the 24th of July when the yellow jersey passes the finish line
Rules:
The first 3 stages should be in Denmark
The race can visit other countries but not Andorra
The race should finish on Champs-Élysées
The key-points of 2021 cannot be used
The UCI-rules should be followed (Max 3500 kilometers, no half-stages etc.)
The deadline is the 24th of July when the yellow jersey passes the finish line
Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
I think we need to finish voteing for all the contest before the next (Vuelta) contest.
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Bocmanis82
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
Ok, what date is it then?
Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
I will make a deadline when 7(ish) people have voted, then a will make some maths and make a deadline. You shouldn't worry about the deadline, you should just vote as quickly as possible.
Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
I should clarify that when I mentioned the possibility of a return to Puy de Dome this was one of the articles that interested me in the possibility for a return https://www.lamontagne.fr/clermont-ferr ... _14149756/Fyr3 wrote: ↑14/07/2022, 4:37 Fyr3's Tour de France 2022
Hi all here's my presentation for the competition. My goal was a balanced tour with interesting novelties such as the gravel sectors of Paris Tours, as well as rediscovering iconic climbs such as the Puy de Dome (rumored to return to the Tour in coming years) and the Col du Granon. The stages throughout the opening week increase in difficulty before a big head to head in the Pyrenees for the second week. Finally for the 3rd week the two hardest stages are discovered in succession with a slightly "easier" stage into Morzine to complete the Alpine triptych ahead of the finish in Paris.
maps/tours/view/21178
provisional map (credit to Bad Neos the creator of the blank template, you can find it on Le Grupetto) (I need to find an updated template with year 2022 and add some details like date of stage etc):
Key Statistics:
- Total distance 3413km including 53,600m of elevation gain across all 21 stages
- Most elevation gain on stage 18, roughly 5600m
- Least elevation gain on stage 1, roughly 60m
- Longest road stage 235km on stage 4
- Shortest road stage excluding Paris 129km on stage 13
- 2 Individual time trials amounting to 61.4km against the clock
- 6 Flat stages
- 6 Mid mountain stages including 4 summit finishes
- 7 High mountain stages including 4 summit finishes
- Highest Point the Col de l'Iseran at 2770m, giving the Souvenir Henri Desgrange
- To Celebrate the 100th anniversary of its first passage the Col d'Izoard will award double points, as will the Iseran as the highest point of the race
- 8 HC climbs: Col d'Aubisque (13), Hautacam (13), Port de Pailheres (15), Col d'Izoard (17), Col du Granon (17), Col du Galibier (18), Col de l'Iseran (18), Col de Joux Plane (20)
- 10 Category 1 climbs and 11 Category 2 climbs making for a total of 29 mountain passes ranked 2nd category or above.
- First ever passage of the Col de Spandelles (stage 13)
- 2 countries passed in this Tour de France, with the opening 3 stages in Denmark and the rest in France barring a brief passage through Switzerland on the way to the finish of stage 19.
Spoiler!
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving." - Albert Einstein
Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
Hello all so here is my vote:
1.) Anderson - your route was well balanced and had many interesting locations as promised. In particular I loved the arrival in La Ciotat. For stage 19 you could have repeated the harder climb followed by easier climb of stage 18 by for instance something of the style Roselend > Bisanne > Areches Beaufort (8km 6%.)
2.) JAdmeal - a close second, in particular I really liked the choice to finish in La Mure after Col de Parquetout, I really hope aso feature this climb in the tour soon. I like when people try to take advantage of the french Basque Country but I was unsure some climbs you used would be suitable (in general I think narrow roads are fine for ascents but aso avoids these climbs because descending them could be quite dangerous.)
3.) Mauro - Solothurn stage might be the best individual stage I saw on this competition it was awesome. My main issue was the stage 20 time trial which I generally dislike, but overall the route was very good and balanced. I thought that for the stage to Orcieres Merlette it may have been more interesting to focus on smaller local passes (e.g Col d'Ornon > Parquetout > Noyer east then resume the original route from penultimate climb)
4.) AjachiChakrabarti - I would have preferred the hilly stage later on after the crashes last year, but then again you can't avoid the tension much even with an opening TT and going the other direction across Denmark can be interesting. I really liked the finish in Charleville as well as the finish on Col de Portet d'Aspet, Mente is a hard climb and should be highlighted more. My main issue with the route was that two of the harder mountain stages came outside France, I think it's ok to have one but even then I prefer if the climbs are not as hard (for example verbier as a finish.) Otherwise well deserved spot in top 5.
5.) Drmeanfield - great to see the return of the team time trial. Im not sure on the cassel arrival but I'll give benefit of doubt. I liked the finish in Belfort to highlight the Vosges but wasn't a fan of the Besancon stage particularly because of the downhill run into a (potential) sprint finish. Better to add harder climbs before to reduce that chance so it isn't problematic. Pyrenees where very good in particular the Cauterets finish, Alps where quite good but I had some suggestions:
- When you talk of experimenting the harder stage formula it could have been a perfect opportunity to put Bonette at the start then Vars / Izoard. 3 hard climbs the hardest at the start with very little valley could throw the race upside down whereas I think the col de larche would neutralize GC action (there's also a threat of earthquakes here.)
- in line with the above for Valberg instead of having Bonette you could do Valberg via Couillole
- Stage 20 was good but would've been a perfect chance to add Col de l'Arpettaz to create an initial selection (though I'm uncertain of it's feasiblility so maybe not for the best)
Special mention - Bocmanis82
I wasn't a fan of elements of your route such as the cobbles on the TTT but there were lots of good things beside this, such as the finish in verbier which was excellent and the placement of the ITT. Some suggestions based on my personal preferences like above:
- you could have made stage 14 potentially even more explosive by doing something like col de chaussy > col de la Madeleine > Valmorel, or your route but with col de chaussy first.
- for stage 20 I would prefer something harder and mid mountain if you are heading north of the Alps (e.g Lelex in the Jura or in the Vosges you have lots of options such as Geradmer, champ du Feu, and smaller ski stations. You can then use a climb such as Le Grand Ballon as the hardest of the day at 30-50km from the finish as a focal point of the stage for long range attacks if a rider has to regain lots of time.
1.) Anderson - your route was well balanced and had many interesting locations as promised. In particular I loved the arrival in La Ciotat. For stage 19 you could have repeated the harder climb followed by easier climb of stage 18 by for instance something of the style Roselend > Bisanne > Areches Beaufort (8km 6%.)
2.) JAdmeal - a close second, in particular I really liked the choice to finish in La Mure after Col de Parquetout, I really hope aso feature this climb in the tour soon. I like when people try to take advantage of the french Basque Country but I was unsure some climbs you used would be suitable (in general I think narrow roads are fine for ascents but aso avoids these climbs because descending them could be quite dangerous.)
3.) Mauro - Solothurn stage might be the best individual stage I saw on this competition it was awesome. My main issue was the stage 20 time trial which I generally dislike, but overall the route was very good and balanced. I thought that for the stage to Orcieres Merlette it may have been more interesting to focus on smaller local passes (e.g Col d'Ornon > Parquetout > Noyer east then resume the original route from penultimate climb)
4.) AjachiChakrabarti - I would have preferred the hilly stage later on after the crashes last year, but then again you can't avoid the tension much even with an opening TT and going the other direction across Denmark can be interesting. I really liked the finish in Charleville as well as the finish on Col de Portet d'Aspet, Mente is a hard climb and should be highlighted more. My main issue with the route was that two of the harder mountain stages came outside France, I think it's ok to have one but even then I prefer if the climbs are not as hard (for example verbier as a finish.) Otherwise well deserved spot in top 5.
5.) Drmeanfield - great to see the return of the team time trial. Im not sure on the cassel arrival but I'll give benefit of doubt. I liked the finish in Belfort to highlight the Vosges but wasn't a fan of the Besancon stage particularly because of the downhill run into a (potential) sprint finish. Better to add harder climbs before to reduce that chance so it isn't problematic. Pyrenees where very good in particular the Cauterets finish, Alps where quite good but I had some suggestions:
- When you talk of experimenting the harder stage formula it could have been a perfect opportunity to put Bonette at the start then Vars / Izoard. 3 hard climbs the hardest at the start with very little valley could throw the race upside down whereas I think the col de larche would neutralize GC action (there's also a threat of earthquakes here.)
- in line with the above for Valberg instead of having Bonette you could do Valberg via Couillole
- Stage 20 was good but would've been a perfect chance to add Col de l'Arpettaz to create an initial selection (though I'm uncertain of it's feasiblility so maybe not for the best)
Special mention - Bocmanis82
I wasn't a fan of elements of your route such as the cobbles on the TTT but there were lots of good things beside this, such as the finish in verbier which was excellent and the placement of the ITT. Some suggestions based on my personal preferences like above:
- you could have made stage 14 potentially even more explosive by doing something like col de chaussy > col de la Madeleine > Valmorel, or your route but with col de chaussy first.
- for stage 20 I would prefer something harder and mid mountain if you are heading north of the Alps (e.g Lelex in the Jura or in the Vosges you have lots of options such as Geradmer, champ du Feu, and smaller ski stations. You can then use a climb such as Le Grand Ballon as the hardest of the day at 30-50km from the finish as a focal point of the stage for long range attacks if a rider has to regain lots of time.
"Life is like riding a bicycle. To keep your balance you must keep moving." - Albert Einstein
Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest
I'm sorry to say, but because of school change, I do not have the time to make major tours or voting. I hope another guy can take over the voting for this contest, maybe Fyr3.