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Tour de France 2022 Contest

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Since it doesn't look like the voting is going to start, I'm going to start the 2022 Tour de France Contest.

Rules:
The first 3 stages should be in Denmark
The race can visit other countries but not Andorra
The race should finish on Champs-Élysées
The key-points of 2021 cannot be used
The UCI-rules should be followed (Max 3500 kilometers, no half-stages etc.)

The deadline is the 24th of July when the yellow jersey passes the finish line
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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BETTO wrote: 28/07/2022, 8:33 Guys, we have all the 2022 contests to vote for. :ahahah:
I know, but mauro doesn't start his votings, because he doesn't vote himself, and unfortunately, there is not enough route for Benoit's America contest.

The deadline will be made when half of the people had voted.
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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I think we need to finish voteing for all the contest before the next (Vuelta) contest.
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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Ok, what date is it then?
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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Bocmanis82 wrote: 28/07/2022, 21:26 Ok, what date is it then?
I will make a deadline when 7(ish) people have voted, then a will make some maths and make a deadline. You shouldn't worry about the deadline, you should just vote as quickly as possible.
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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Fyr3 wrote: 14/07/2022, 4:37 Fyr3's Tour de France 2022

Hi all here's my presentation for the competition. My goal was a balanced tour with interesting novelties such as the gravel sectors of Paris Tours, as well as rediscovering iconic climbs such as the Puy de Dome (rumored to return to the Tour in coming years) and the Col du Granon. The stages throughout the opening week increase in difficulty before a big head to head in the Pyrenees for the second week. Finally for the 3rd week the two hardest stages are discovered in succession with a slightly "easier" stage into Morzine to complete the Alpine triptych ahead of the finish in Paris.

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provisional map (credit to Bad Neos the creator of the blank template, you can find it on Le Grupetto) (I need to find an updated template with year 2022 and add some details like date of stage etc):

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Key Statistics:
- Total distance 3413km including 53,600m of elevation gain across all 21 stages
- Most elevation gain on stage 18, roughly 5600m
- Least elevation gain on stage 1, roughly 60m
- Longest road stage 235km on stage 4
- Shortest road stage excluding Paris 129km on stage 13
- 2 Individual time trials amounting to 61.4km against the clock
- 6 Flat stages
- 6 Mid mountain stages including 4 summit finishes
- 7 High mountain stages including 4 summit finishes
- Highest Point the Col de l'Iseran at 2770m, giving the Souvenir Henri Desgrange
- To Celebrate the 100th anniversary of its first passage the Col d'Izoard will award double points, as will the Iseran as the highest point of the race
- 8 HC climbs: Col d'Aubisque (13), Hautacam (13), Port de Pailheres (15), Col d'Izoard (17), Col du Granon (17), Col du Galibier (18), Col de l'Iseran (18), Col de Joux Plane (20)
- 10 Category 1 climbs and 11 Category 2 climbs making for a total of 29 mountain passes ranked 2nd category or above.
- First ever passage of the Col de Spandelles (stage 13)
- 2 countries passed in this Tour de France, with the opening 3 stages in Denmark and the rest in France barring a brief passage through Switzerland on the way to the finish of stage 19.
Spoiler!

Stage 1 - Copenhagen to Copenhagen - ITT - 60m D+

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The grand depart of the Tour de France will be in Copenhagen for the first time! The opening time trial will start in Amalienborg, home of the Danish royal family, before traversing the streets of the capital until the finish line outside Tivoli.

Stage 2 - roskilde to Nyborg - flat - 1209m D+

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3 Short 4th category climbs will award the first polka dot jersey on this stage to Nyborg. The crossing of the Great Belt Bridge offers the opportunity for bordures to appear, though they will be unlikely given the prevailing wind directions. That being said, each year there are cars blown over by the strong gusts along the 18km of exposed road, expect big time gaps if the wind blows from the right direction!

Stage 3 - Odense to Vejle - hilly - 1949m D+

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The final stage of the Danish Grand Depart will highlight the hills around Vejle. Often crossed by the Tour of Denmark, home riders may be familiar with the route and be able to take advantage. In particular, the finish shortly after the Kiddesvej has seen the likes of Michael Valgren crowned, a stage that promises attacks and potential splits among the GC riders.

Stage 4 - Mont St Michel to Cherbourg - hilly - 2639m D+

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The longest stage of this Tour de France will take on the challenging coastal roads of Normandy. The tour has already visited this finish in Cherbourg back in 2016, when Peter Sagan out sprinted Julian Alaphilippe, but this time the nature of the stage may favour a breakaway over a reduced sprint.

Stage 5 - Bayeux to Alencon - flat - 1882m D+

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The second of the 2 stages in Normandy should be a nailed on sprint, with the Mont des Avaloirs coming too far from the finish to realistically prevent a bunch finish.

Stage 6 - Le Mans Circuit des 24h to Tours - hilly - 1351m D+

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Departing from Le Mans and its famous circuit, the 6th stage will be decided in the closing 50km with no less than 9 gravel sectors from the Paris Tours classic. In combination with several short climbs, the finale of this stage should suit long range attacks and a strong rouleur may well make it to the finish in Tours alone.

Stage 7 - Chatellerault to Gueret - flat - 2331m D+

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As we approach the first rest day and the mountainous terrain of the Massif Central, this seventh stage should be a gentle introduction. The presence of the climb to Le Maupuy should complicate things for the sprinters, as its 3km at 7% with a 4km false flat beforehand will make a breakaway difficult to control, and with only 15km left to the finish after the final climb it could be a break away that takes the spoils at the finish line.

Stage 8 - Montlucon to Puy de Dome - mountain - 2925m D+

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The Puy de Dome needs no introduction. An icon of the Tour de France, the climb returns though this time with restrictions - due to the nature of the railroad and the archaeological site at the summit as well as a protected area, crowds will not be able to stand by the roadside in the final 5km. From the Panoramique des Domes, only the riders and Neutral service will be allowed to the top.

Stage 9 - Panoramique des Domes to Station de Mont Dore Puy de Sancy - medium mountain - 2757m D+

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After a tough first mountain stage the previous day, GC riders will have to be wary of the finale in the shadow of the Puy de Sancy, the highest point in the Massif Central. The sequence of climbs in the final 20km is conducive to late attacks from rivals and time can easily be lost before the second rest day.

Stage 10 - Brive la Gaillarde to rocamadour - hilly - 2072m D+

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Following the rest day a road finish in rocamadour will please the puncheurs. With two circuits to be completed and multiple short ascents to be covered, it is not impossible that the eventual winner will go from afar rather than taking victory in a last dash to the finish line.

Stage 11 - Sarlat la Caneda to Montauban - flat - 2244m D+

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Unless there is a surprise presence of bordures in the final kilometers, there should be no surprises on GC and the finish in Montauban should be conducive to a mass sprint.

Stage 12 - Samatan to Lourdes - medium mountain - 2263m D+

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The finish in Lourdes is too far from the final climb to realistically interest the GC riders with the prospect of attacks. Bastille day's stage should go to an escapee unless a team decides to control the race for a reduced bunch sprint.

Stage 13 - Oloron Sainte Marie to Hautacam - 4292m D+

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With 4 climbs packed into just over 100km and little respite in between, it is certain that the finish in Hautacam should reveal the pretenders for yellow in Paris. The riders will also have to tackle a new difficulty, the Col de Spandelles, which could be a launchpad for success before the final climb to the line.

Stage 14 - Martres Tolosane to Foix - mountain - 4050m D+

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In spite of the presence of plenty of climbing the GC favourites are unlikely to be interested in attacking this stage. More likely, it is climbers who have lost significant time earlier in the race who fight for the win, while the finish in Foix should not interest the strongest GC riders.

Stage 15 - Canet en rousillon to Ax 3 Domaines - mountain - 4052m D+

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Before one final rest day, the riders will already climb from sea level to 2000 meters on the Port de Pailheres. A 17km climb at 7% average gradient, it is the perfect launchpad for early attacks if a rider does not want to wait to establish himself until the final climb to the Plateau de Bonascre.

Stage 16 - Istres to Martigues - ITT - 582m D+

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The 16th stage of this Tour de France will present the second and last time trial of the race. On a course of 45km, big gaps will be created between the rouleurs and climbers, setting stage for plenty of action once the race hits the alps.

Stage 17 - Gap to Col du Granon Serre Chevalier - mountain - 4605m D+

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The final summit finish looms ahead for the riders and it is perhaps the most brutal of them all. retracing in part the pedals of Bernard Hinault when he last wore the Yellow Jersey, the race will cross the Col d'Izoard 100 years after its first passage, awarding the first rider 40 mountain points in a key moment for the polka dot jersey battle. With the climb of the Izoard, a fast descent and then the final climb to the Col du Granon, attacks may already be made from far out if a rider cannot afford to wait to regain time in the general classification.

Stage 18 - La Mure to Val d'Isere - mountain - 5617m D+

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Penultimate mountain stage of this Tour de France, the riders will have to face the mighty Galibier already within the first 100km, before intense climbing with little respite to the highest point of the race, the Col de l'Iseran. The 2019 finish in Tignes having been spoiled by a freak weather event, this time the riders will have to cover less distance from the summit of the Iseran, finishing 20km later in Val d'Isere. Truly a stage not to miss, and one which could turn the race upside down as altitude so often does. Once again it will be an important moment in the fight for the Polka dot jersey, as just like the Izoard the Iseran will offer 40 points for the first to the top rather than the usual 20.

Stage 19 - Montmelian to Divonne les Bains - flat - 1966m D+

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Although stage 19 is classified as flat, as is often the case in the late stages of the race it may well go to a breakaway. The climbs along the route might not ordinarily be enough to stop the sprinters from seeing success in Divonne les Bains but after 2 brutal alpine stages, the queen stages of this Tour, it is uncertain the sprinters will be able to control the race and go for the sprint on the Tour du Lac.

Stage 20 - Evian les Bains to Morzine les Portes du Soleil - mountain - 3904m D+

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Final mountain stage of this Tour de France, as in 2016 the finish will be in Morzine. This time however the race will pass through Morzine twice, first after the Col de Joux Plane, a final HC climb where those who are still far behind must attack to contend for yellow. Then at the finish after the climb of the Col de la Joux Verte. A sequence of unforgiving climbs at the end of a 3 week race, could everything turn around one last time and a surprise winner be declared after the finish in Morzine?

Stage 21 - Paris La Defense to Paris Champs Elysees - flat - 889m D+

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The final processional stage in Paris will as always crown the champion of this Tour de France in view of the famous Arc de Triomphe.
I should clarify that when I mentioned the possibility of a return to Puy de Dome this was one of the articles that interested me in the possibility for a return https://www.lamontagne.fr/clermont-ferr ... _14149756/
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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Hello all so here is my vote:

1.) Anderson - your route was well balanced and had many interesting locations as promised. In particular I loved the arrival in La Ciotat. For stage 19 you could have repeated the harder climb followed by easier climb of stage 18 by for instance something of the style Roselend > Bisanne > Areches Beaufort (8km 6%.)

2.) JAdmeal - a close second, in particular I really liked the choice to finish in La Mure after Col de Parquetout, I really hope aso feature this climb in the tour soon. I like when people try to take advantage of the french Basque Country but I was unsure some climbs you used would be suitable (in general I think narrow roads are fine for ascents but aso avoids these climbs because descending them could be quite dangerous.)

3.) Mauro - Solothurn stage might be the best individual stage I saw on this competition it was awesome. My main issue was the stage 20 time trial which I generally dislike, but overall the route was very good and balanced. I thought that for the stage to Orcieres Merlette it may have been more interesting to focus on smaller local passes (e.g Col d'Ornon > Parquetout > Noyer east then resume the original route from penultimate climb)

4.) AjachiChakrabarti - I would have preferred the hilly stage later on after the crashes last year, but then again you can't avoid the tension much even with an opening TT and going the other direction across Denmark can be interesting. I really liked the finish in Charleville as well as the finish on Col de Portet d'Aspet, Mente is a hard climb and should be highlighted more. My main issue with the route was that two of the harder mountain stages came outside France, I think it's ok to have one but even then I prefer if the climbs are not as hard (for example verbier as a finish.) Otherwise well deserved spot in top 5.

5.) Drmeanfield - great to see the return of the team time trial. Im not sure on the cassel arrival but I'll give benefit of doubt. I liked the finish in Belfort to highlight the Vosges but wasn't a fan of the Besancon stage particularly because of the downhill run into a (potential) sprint finish. Better to add harder climbs before to reduce that chance so it isn't problematic. Pyrenees where very good in particular the Cauterets finish, Alps where quite good but I had some suggestions:
- When you talk of experimenting the harder stage formula it could have been a perfect opportunity to put Bonette at the start then Vars / Izoard. 3 hard climbs the hardest at the start with very little valley could throw the race upside down whereas I think the col de larche would neutralize GC action (there's also a threat of earthquakes here.)
- in line with the above for Valberg instead of having Bonette you could do Valberg via Couillole
- Stage 20 was good but would've been a perfect chance to add Col de l'Arpettaz to create an initial selection (though I'm uncertain of it's feasiblility so maybe not for the best)

Special mention - Bocmanis82
I wasn't a fan of elements of your route such as the cobbles on the TTT but there were lots of good things beside this, such as the finish in verbier which was excellent and the placement of the ITT. Some suggestions based on my personal preferences like above:
- you could have made stage 14 potentially even more explosive by doing something like col de chaussy > col de la Madeleine > Valmorel, or your route but with col de chaussy first.
- for stage 20 I would prefer something harder and mid mountain if you are heading north of the Alps (e.g Lelex in the Jura or in the Vosges you have lots of options such as Geradmer, champ du Feu, and smaller ski stations. You can then use a climb such as Le Grand Ballon as the hardest of the day at 30-50km from the finish as a focal point of the stage for long range attacks if a rider has to regain lots of time.
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Re: Tour de France 2022 Contest

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I'm sorry to say, but because of school change, I do not have the time to make major tours or voting. I hope another guy can take over the voting for this contest, maybe Fyr3.
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