Facebook login is not available anymore due to Facebook policy. If you need access to your old account send a mail with username and your actual mail.

IMPORTANT: Routing and Elevation API are limited to 7000 calls per day. In case they are expired, they won't work until limit is re-charged. You can try in this case to do a GPX on RideWithGPS site and import it on the editor

Please don't spam us mail and PMs that we won't answer and notice that the official language of forum is English.

Comment with us the races in the discussion thread or in the Telegram Chat

Follow us on Twitter: @laflammerouge16

Deutschland Tour

Show your creations here.
User avatar
Möve
Spettatore
Posts: 16
Joined: 12/07/2021, 13:37

Deutschland Tour

Post by Möve »

Hi there,

since I'm from Germany it's pretty dissappointing not to have a bigger stage race in our country. Not that Germans wouldn't be into cycling at all, but apart from football the popularity of any sports depends very much on the success of German athletes. I think it's like that in most European countries, but it seems to be more extreme in Germany. So, after not having a stage race accross the country for ten years I was really excited about this relaunched version of the Deutschland Tour, and I am still. It is short, yes, but that's ok under the circumstances. It's not that easy to find host cities, people usually don't come to you, you have to go where they are (meaning urban areas), Germans are better in sprinting than climbing and at least there is the opportunity to extend the race to even 7 days in the next years (5 are to come 2022). That's still not much, regarding that they travelled 3 weeks through Spain at la Vuelta last year and only covered half of the country (and there is a 5 days stage race in small regions like Burgos, Wallonie or 9 in Switzerland, 5 wasn't even enough for Tour of Bavaria), but let's stick to what it is.

Still, the parcours could need some improvement from a sporting view, I think. In my opinion, a lot of stages ressemble each other to much, they travel about 160k through hilly regions from one city to another, do 2 hilly local laps and finish with a sprint of sometimes 4, sometimes 40 riders. And they leave out some nice opportunities - so from the start in 2018 I created a Tour of Germany each year, which I want to present to you in the following days or weeks, now that I found this Forum - and finally the opportunity to share my work of boredom and passion! You're invited to do your own Tours accross Germany, there aren't pretty much rules about it. The tour should be one for the classic riders, that's what the organisation always tells, but they have a MTF in the black forrest next year on top of a ~15k, 7% climb, so Politt or Stuyven eg won't do it :D

I just wanted to cover a lot of regions over the years and as much as possible within in one edition. Plus I wanted to create some variety and some development through the race, having a fight for the leaders jersey on most of the stages, with the possibilty of most stages to be the decisive one and a climax at the end. And of course, you need to have one or two pure sprinting stages, because Ackermann, Greipel, Kittel, Bauhaus... [edit: actually it would be better to say "opportunities for pure sprinters" instead of "pure sprinting stages" - on a 4-day-race nothing should be for granted and in 2/3 of Germany, if you go to the south it's almost impossible to create routes without some climbs. (But it's also nearly impossible to create really hard mountain stages like in the Grand Tours or Tour de Suisse, only a small part of the Alps is German or Bavarian, and passes like around Sella, San Gottardo or Huez and Maurienne-Valley don't exist here.)] My first edition from 2018 (I saved every GPS data on my Computer before I created some proper graphics with the LFR tools lately) will be uploaded soon and I would love to have some critcs, remarks or applause from the audience.

Greets, Möve (that means "seagull" and is the name of my local bicycle club, mind the "Ö" instead of the "O" in "move" :asd: )
Last edited by Möve on 22/12/2021, 14:50, edited 2 times in total.
User avatar
Möve
Spettatore
Posts: 16
Joined: 12/07/2021, 13:37

Re: Deutschland Tour

Post by Möve »

So, this is my updated version of the 2010 Deutschland Tour. Some ideas of the original route should stay as they are: No border crossing, MTF on the penultimate day, still a fan of the start at Lake Tegernsee with this uphill prologue and a finish in Berlin plus Bonn being a major part of the route. Inbetween, some stuff had to change, because 3 of the 4 final stages being totally flat is just pointless. So the stages right before the final Sprint royal in Berlin now will be: An ITT, a hilly stage with a steep uphill finish and a mountain stage in the Harz region with a MTF on north Germanys highest mountain.

Also, I changed the MTF on the first stage in the Allgäu region. Instead, the stage now ends 7k after crossing the highest German pass route, the Riedbergpass, in a downhill to the finish in Balderschwang. This climb is not that super steep as Ochsenbergalpe, but still steep and much longer. In combination with the downhill afterwards, I hope for earlier attacks and more action on this route. On top, it's much more realistic to end the stage in Balderschwang, because the infrastructure in this village is much more fitting for an event like the Deutschland Tour if you compare it to the small path to Ochsenbergalpe.

Bonn now hosts the finish and the start of a stage race instead of an ITT, that's my alternative plan to keep the city a central part of the route. As I wanted to go further north afterwards and push the ITT one day further back, this was the alternative plan I came up with. The ITT will now be held in the very north of Germany in Frisia region, connecting the two major regional towns of Emden and Leer. Stages 3 and 6 will be much more difficult than they were originally, having some climbs in the finale on stage 3, even in the city of Bonn, and an uphill finish on the sixth day. Instead of 3 total flat stages plus 2 merely flat ones, the race now will have 2 total flat stages and 2 more that more or less could be for the sprinters, but also provide some opportunities to attack.

And here is the updated route of my 2010 Deutschland Tour: maps/tours/view/22349
Post Reply