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Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by pesallu » 06/10/2016, 22:11

This is a hard Tour de France with:
- 7 flat stages
- 7 high mountain stages
- 4 medium mountain stages
- 2 ITT
- 1 TTT

full Tour: maps/tours/view/3770

The Grand Depart is Düsseldorf, like next year's tour de france, with a team time trial. Second stage goes trough a hilly terrain in Les ardenes. Next, several flat stages across the north and centre of France, including the Massif central. 2 hard long stages in the pyrenees. Several transition stages and the pièce de résistance, The Alps. 5 Alp stages and a mountain time trial that will mark the race. Finishing, several flat stages heading to Paris and the decisive long time trial in Dreux.

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Re: Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by emmea90 » 07/10/2016, 9:11

Just had a look
- What you call "col de Tentes" is better "Cirque de gavarnie". I prefer to reserve the word "Col" at the top point of the pass
- Col des Encombres is, unfortunately, not practicable in a Tour de France as the surface is very dirty in the top (with lot of holes). I think that is a really hard stage to be placed in the second week
- The same for Col de Voza (and i think the descent is too hard)
- I really don't like the stage distribution. Basically you have three sprints in the last four days of the race, and no sprints between stage 7 and 18. I think moving up to Paris could be a thing of early 2000's TDF, not actual ones. I would've at least saving a stage going from Troyes side.
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Re: Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by pesallu » 09/10/2016, 23:50

emmea90 wrote:Just had a look
- What you call "col de Tentes" is better "Cirque de gavarnie". I prefer to reserve the word "Col" at the top point of the pass
- Col des Encombres is, unfortunately, not practicable in a Tour de France as the surface is very dirty in the top (with lot of holes). I think that is a really hard stage to be placed in the second week
- The same for Col de Voza (and i think the descent is too hard)
- I really don't like the stage distribution. Basically you have three sprints in the last four days of the race, and no sprints between stage 7 and 18. I think moving up to Paris could be a thing of early 2000's TDF, not actual ones. I would've at least saving a stage going from Troyes side.
I know I included several unpractical Cols but I wanted to add some new names. I called Col de Tentes because Cyclingcols does it and regarding the tour's distribution, I see your point but I suppose it's a matter of taste. Nevertheless, Thanks for the tips.

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Re: Vuelta Ciclista a España

Post by pesallu » 12/10/2016, 21:55

Vuelta Ciclista a España

This edition of La Vuelta starts in the iconic San Sebastian with a short prologue finishing in Monte Igueldo. Stage 2 and 3 go through a hilly terrain with very explosive finishes. Next, the Cantabrian Mountains, 3 summit finishes that will mark the race. Between stage 6 and 7 there will be a rest day and the race will move towards the Mediterranean sea. Next, several nervous and explosive finishes through the Mediterranean coast. Finally, the Pyrenees and The Iberian System. The penultimate stage is a long and explosive TT.
More details at: maps/tours/view/3691

Grand Depart
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Stage 1: San Sebastian - Monte Igueldo ITT
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Stage 2: Andoain > Refugio de Lizarpe
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Stage 3: Eibar > Bilbao. Monte Arraiz
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Cantabrian Mountains

Stage 4: Portugalete > El Golobar
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Last Climb
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Stage 5: Reinosa > Sotres
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Last Climb
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Stage 6: San Vicente de la Barquera > Ermita de Alba
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Last Climb
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REST DAY: Almeria
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Stage 7: Almería > Castillo de San Julian
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Stage 8: Cartagena > Alicante
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Stage 9: Alicante > Mas del Pecho
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Stage 10: Alcoy > Alt de Mondúber
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Stage 11: Valencia > Mas de la Costa
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Stage 12: Castellón > Motorland Aragón
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Stage 13: Alcañiz > Cervera
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THE PYRENEES

Stage 14: Tàrrega > Lles Estació d'Esquí
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Last Climb
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REST DAY: Puigcerdà
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Stage 15: Puigcerdà > Pla de Beret
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Last Climb
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Stage 16: Rialp > Aramon Cerler. Ampriu
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Last Climb
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Stage 17: Huesca > Santuario del Moncayo
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Stage 18: Ágreda > Alto del Moncalvillo
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Stage 19: Soria > La Morcuera
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Stage 20: Guadarrama - Segovia ITT
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Stage 21: Segovia > Madrid
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Re: Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by Camenzind » 13/10/2016, 12:22

I think that Mountain stages are too much

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Post by pesallu » 13/10/2016, 14:06

Camenzind wrote:I think that Mountain stages are too much
yep, I might overdid it

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Re: Tour de France V2

Post by pesallu » 15/10/2016, 21:29

This is a well-balanced Tour de France with 7 flat stages, 3 medium mountain stages, 2 ITT and 9 high mountain stages. The Grand Depart is in Bretagne, finishing in the famous Mûr-de-Bretagne. The next three stages will go all over the west coast of France, with high risk of crosswinds. Then, the Pyrenees with 3 summit finishes including the unknown Font-Romeu Pyrenees 2000. Before moving to the north of France, they will have a rest day. And now, several transition stages through the noth of France, the Massif des Vosges and the piece of resistance, the Alps, with 6 mountain stages with colossus like Galibier, Verbier and Mont Ventoux which will mark the race. Before Champs-Élysées, the important flat timetrial in Bourges.

More details at maps/tours/view/3709

Grand Depart: Brest
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Stage 1: Brest > Mûr-de-Bretagne Hilly
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Finish:
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Stage 2: Pontivy > Noirmoutier-en-l'Îlle Flat, crosswinds
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Stage 3: Challans > Cognac Flat, crosswinds
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Stage 4: Angoulême > Cahors Flat, uphill finish
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Finish:
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THE PYRENEES

Stage 5: Agen > Col de la Pierre-Saint-Martin High Mountain, summit finish.
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Final Climb: Col de la Pierre-Saint-Martin
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Stage 6: Oloron Sainte-Marie > Pla d'Adet High mountain, summit finish
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Final Climb:
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Stage 7: Bagnères-de-Luchon > Font-Romeu Pyrénées 2000 High Mountain, summit finish
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Final Climb:
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REST DAY Charleville-Mézières
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Stage 8: Charleville-Mézières > Metz Flat
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Stage 9: Montigny-lès-Metz > Vittel Flat
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Massif des Vosges Stage 10 and 11

Stage 10: Vittel > Mulhouse Hilly
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Stage 11: Belfort > La Planche des Belles Filles mountain ITT
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Stage 12: Montbéliard > Berne Hilly
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THE ALPS

Stage 13: Berne > Airolo High Mountain. Swiss Alps
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Stage 14: Airolo > Verbier High Mountain, Swiss Alps, summit finish
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Final Climb: Verbier
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Stage 15: Sion > Saint-Gervais Mont-Blanc High mountain, summit finish
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Final climb: Le Bettex
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REST DAY: Chamonix-Mont-Blanc
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Stage 16: Sallanches > Valmorel High Mountain, summit finish. Queen Stage of this Tour de France
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Final Climb: Valmorel
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Stage 17: Moûtiers > Briançon High Mountain
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Last Climb: Galibier
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Stage 18: Embrun > Mont Ventoux High mountain, summit finish.
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Final Climb: Mont Ventoux
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Stage 19: Valence > Vichy Flat
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Stage 20: Bourges > Vierzon ITT Flat
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Stage 21: Orleans > Paris. Champs-Élysées Flat
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Re: Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by emmea90 » 16/10/2016, 10:03

Da dove sei arrivato a Pyrenees 2000? Sembra addirittura duro
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Post by pesallu » 16/10/2016, 12:24

emmea90 wrote:Da dove sei arrivato a Pyrenees 2000? Sembra addirittura duro

It's an Ski resort in the french pyrenees near the border with Andorra, it's also called Mollera dels Clots (http://www.cyclingcols.com/col/MolleraDelsClots). It seems hard, but the percentages never exceed 10% although it's 17 km long

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Post by emmea90 » 16/10/2016, 14:19

pesallu wrote:
emmea90 wrote:Da dove sei arrivato a Pyrenees 2000? Sembra addirittura duro

It's an Ski resort in the french pyrenees near the border with Andorra, it's also called Mollera dels Clots (http://www.cyclingcols.com/col/MolleraDelsClots). It seems hard, but the percentages never exceed 10% although it's 17 km long
Ok, i have tracked an arrive there but it was less steeper
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Tour de France V3

Post by pesallu » 28/10/2016, 22:27

Running from Sunday July 2nd to Monday July 24th 2017, the Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,600 kilometres.

These stages have the following profiles:

7 flat stages
4 hilly stages
7 mountain stages including altitude finishes (Les Arcs 2000, Tourmalet, Plateau de Beille, Mont Ventoux,Isola 2000)
2 individual time-trials stages (Total ITT 70 km)
1 team time-trial stage (Total TTT 36 km)
2 rest days (Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, Pau)

More details on maps/tours/view/4026

THE RACE
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GRAND DÉPART POTSDAM

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Stage 1: POTSDAM > BERLIN
Team Time-Trial
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Stage 2: WOLFSBURG > BIELEFELD
Flat stage
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Stage 3: DORTMUND > CIRCUIT DE SPA-FRANCORCHAMPS
Flat Stage

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Stage 4: BASTOGNE > NANCY
Flat stage
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LES VOSGES

Stage 5: NEUFCHÂTEAU > LE ROUGE GAZON
Hilly stage, summit finish

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Last Climb:
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Stage 6: BESANÇON > OYONNAX
Hilly stage
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LES ALPS Stage 7 and 8

Stage 7:ANNECY > LES ARCS 2000
High Mountain stage, summit finish

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Last Climb:
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Stage 8: BOURG-SAINT-MAURICE > SAINT-JEAN-DE-MAURIENNE
High Mountain stage
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REST DAY : SAINT-JEAN-DE-MAURIENNE
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Stage 9: GRENOBLE > GRENOBLE
Individual Time-Trial
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Stage 10: VOIRON > LE-PUY-EN-VELAY
Hilly Stage
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Stage 11: LE-PUY-EN-VELAY > MONT-DORE
Hilly Stage
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Stage 12: AURILLAC > BERGERAC
Flat Stage
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Stage 13: LANGON > BIARRITZ
Flat Stage, crosswinds
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LES PYRÉNÉES

Stage 14: CAMBO-LES-BAINS > JACA
High Mountain stage
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REST DAY: PAU
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Stage 15: PAU > COL DU TOURMALET
High Mountain stage, summit Finish, Queen Stage
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Last Climb:
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Stage 16: BAGNÈRES-DE-LUCHON > PLATEAU DE BEILLE
High Mountain stage, summit finish
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Last Climb:
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Stage 17: LIMOUX > CARCASSONNE
Individual time trial
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Stage 18: BÉZIERS > SALON-DE-PROVENCE
Flat stage, crosswinds
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Stage 19: PERTUIS > MONT VENTOUX
High Mountain stage, summit finish
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Last Climb:
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Stage 20: SISTERON > ISOLA 2000
High mountain, summit finish
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Last Climb:
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Stage 21: ÉTAMPES - PARIS
Flat stage
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Tour de France V4

Post by pesallu » 11/01/2017, 12:50

The presentation of the route of the Tour de France immediately gives the favourites of the race an idea of the possible scenarios that they could expect next July.
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THE RACE

Running from Saturday July 1st to Sunday July 23rd , the Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,802 kilometres.

- 9 flat stages
- 3 hilly stages
- 8 mountain stages including altitude finishes (La Mauselaine, Puy de Dôme, Luz Ardiden, Les Sept Laux, TorrentAlp )
- 1 individual time-trial stage (38km)

Tour de France will visit two neighboring countries: Belgium and Switzerland

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Post by pesallu » 03/03/2017, 15:17

GRAND DÉPART

Noirmoutier-en-l'Île
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Stage 1: Noirmoutier-en-l'Île > Les Herbiers
Flat,with sterrato
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Stage 2: Angers > Lisieux
Flat, challenging finish

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Stage 3: Fécamp > Boulogne-sur-Mer
Flat, Uphill Finish, crosswinds

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Finish:
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Stage 4: Calais >Vélodrome de Roubaix
15 cobble sections, including Mons-en-Pèvèle and Carrefour-de-l'Arbre. First serious gaps among GC contenders
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Stage 5: Tournai > Sedan
Flat stage
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Stage 6: Metz > Obernai
Hilly stage, ideal for breakaways
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Stage 7: Strasbourg > Gérardmer. La Mauselaine
Mountain Stage with top finish.
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Stage 8: Besançon > Montceau-les-Mines
Flat, transition stage
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Stage 9: Paray-le-Monial > Puy de Dôme
High Mountain stage, HC summit finish

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Rest Day Aurillac
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Stage 10:Aurillac - Agen
Flat, with uphill finish
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THE PYRÉNÉES
stage 11 and 12

Stage 11: Eauze > Luz Ardiden
High Mountain stage, summit finish
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Finish: Luz Ardiden
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Stage 12: Bagnères-de-Bigorre > Saint-Gaudens
hish mountain stage
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Stage 13: Foix > Albi
Flat stage
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Stage 14: Rodez > Prat Peyrot. Mont Aigoual
Medium Mountain stage, top finish
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Finish:
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Stage 15: Les Vans > La Grand Combe
Hilly and very demanding Time Trial
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Stage 16: Orange > Gap
Hilly stage ideal for breakaways
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REST DAY: GAP
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THE ALPS
stage 17,18,19 and 20

Stage 17: Gap > Le Bourg-d'Oisans
First contact with the alps includes Col d'Izoard and Lautaret
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Stage 18: Valloire > Les Sept Laux - Pippay
Possibly the Queen stage of this Tour
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Finish:
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Stage 19: Grenoble > Moûtiers
High Mountain stage, descents are the key
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Stage 20: Chamonix-Mont-Blanc > TorrentAlp
Final mountain stage of the tour comes with a switzerland surprise
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Stage 21: Artenay > Paris. Champs-Élysées
Flat and final stage
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12, 13, 17 |schum
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emmea90 wrote:
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I didn't want to overload with top finishes, that's not the style of TDF

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Contest Tour de France 2017

Post by pesallu » 29/06/2017, 14:59

Welcome to the greatest show in the world, from July 1st to 23rd, Le Tour de France will ride across France climbing the most legendarious cols of Le Tour.

The tour includes
- 8 high mountain stages, only 4 of them are uphill finish ( legendarious Cauterets, Tourmalet, Galibier and Mont Ventoux). That means downhill attributes will be crucial.
- 8 flat stages with surprises on each of them. So breakaways will be usual and baroudeurs will have options.
- 3 time trials. 1 openning team time trial, 2 individual time trials (1 of them uphill finish in Alpe D'Huez).
-2 hilly stages for puncheurs

Theme of the race: legendary cols

Grand Départ

NICE

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The Favourites

In this well-balanced Tour de France Chris Froome,Nairo Quintana , Alberto Contador, Vincenzo Nibali and Romain Bardet are the big pre-race contenders

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The Route

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Giro d'Italia by Pesallu

Post by pesallu » 05/07/2017, 13:43

This is a decent proposal for a hectic Giro d'Italia, across Italy from south to north, from Taranto to Milano.

This giro includes:
- 6 flat stages
- 5 medium mountain stages
- 7 high mountain stages mostly gathered in the infernal final week with finishes ( Tre Cime di Lavaredo, Montecampione, Alpe di Pampeago...)
- 3 individual time trials ( an openning one, a long time trial on stage 17th and a final one in Milano)

More info on: maps/tours/view/5538

THE ROUTE

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Some examples of the alpine mountain stages in this giro:

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Re: Pesallu Grand Tours

Post by David_Fletcher » 06/07/2017, 10:50

Finally you did the Giro!!! I'm so jealous of the quality of your maps, amazing! Keep up the good work

PS: Cima Coppi climb is only supposed to be the highest pass of the race. The 1st Category and HC climbs are both named 1st Category climbs. For example: if you have the Monte Zoncolan and the Passo dello Stelvio in the same Giro, Stelvio would be the Cima Coppi and Zoncolan would be a 1st Category (even though it's an HC)

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Post by pesallu » 08/07/2017, 13:49

David_Fletcher wrote:
06/07/2017, 10:50
Finally you did the Giro!!! I'm so jealous of the quality of your maps, amazing! Keep up the good work

PS: Cima Coppi climb is only supposed to be the highest pass of the race. The 1st Category and HC climbs are both named 1st Category climbs. For example: if you have the Monte Zoncolan and the Passo dello Stelvio in the same Giro, Stelvio would be the Cima Coppi and Zoncolan would be a 1st Category (even though it's an HC)
Thanks, had no idea about that, I take note! :beer:

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Tour de France Contest

Post by pesallu » 20/07/2017, 13:46

Le Tour de Cheese

Cheese is one of the most magical and delicious creations to ever grace this earth and France produces more than 400 types of superb cheese.

The Grand Départ will be Emmental, Canton de Berne in Switzerland, another awesome cheese producer country.

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FAVOURITES

Tour de France Podium Favourites are:

Chris Froome, the man to beat. 3 time winner of the Tour de France Chris Froome is the main favourite to be crown in Champs-Élysées on July 23rd. This year his strenghts in the mountain are similar to other favourites like Richie Porte or Romain Bardet. However, his excellent TT skills favour him over the other contenders

Richie Porte. Richie has had a strong season so far, winning the Tour Down Under, the Tour de Romandie and finishing 2nd in the Dauphine. Probably, the only one who can beat Froome in the TT, so he's a clear podium candidate.

Nairo Quintana. Same level as Froome in the high mountain but his TT skills reduce his aspiration to win the Tour


Romain Bardet. The frech hope, he has improved significantly in the mountain although he is still one steep back in the TT over his rivals Froome or Porte.

Fabio Aru. He's been pushing hard lately, his defiant style in the mountain favour him but TT is his weakness.

Alberto Contador. During the decline of his career he can achieve Top5 if crashes in the first week don't dwindle his strenghts.


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Grand Départ

The race will start in Emmental region, Switzerland. It starts in the spectacular Emmental AOP Show Dairy of Affoltern im Emmental, where Emmentaler swiss cheese is produced.

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The Route

This Tour will visit the most iconic cheeses of France, and some regions of Switzerland.

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Running from Saturday July 1st to Sunday July 23rd, the Tour de France will be made up of 21 stages and will cover a total distance of 3,532 kilometres.

- 8 flat stages
- 6 hilly stages
- 5 mountain stages including altitude finishes (Ordino-Arcalis, Courchevel Altiport, Plateau de Solaison)
- 2 individual time-trials stages ( 57 km totally)
- 2 rest days
The Tour de France will include a total of 60 mountains climbs or hills and altitude finishes ranked in fourth, third, second, first or HC class distributed in Jura, Massif central, Pyrénées and The Alps.

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Detailed Profiles coming soon
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