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Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 09/08/2020, 11:51
by emmea90
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Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020
Later than usually is in the season, it is still time for the 2020 Tour de France Contest

You have to re-draw and improve 2020 Tour de France

Constraints
- Gran Depart should be kept the same way (Stage 1 and 2 starts and finishing in Nice, in same points. You can switch finish of stage 1 and 2 or also starts, but a finish point should remain a finish point and a start point should remain a start point)
- Of course you have to end TDF in Champs-Elysees. This means that stage 20-21 transfer shall be 'realistic'
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages
- You have to put a stage start or a stage finish in at least 7 different france regions
- You can freely choose what to do before Alps or Pyrenees
- 2020 Tour has Covid-19 problem. So, to simplify things, you are not allowed to leave France for the whole route. All the Kms of Tour de France shall be in France.
- You must have from 5 to 7 stages for pure sprinters, Paris included - and no more than 2 of them consequently
- There should be at least 2 high mountain stages that does NOT end in a MTF

Deadline will be Sunday 20/9/2020, when the first rider will cross Tour de France 2020 Stage 21 line. Or 23.59 if the stage won't happen

Tour must be done using Tour de France - 2019 profiles, with Large X-Size and normal slopes on to have an easy comparison between different routes.

PLEASE PUT THE STAGE PRESENTATION BETWEEN SPOILERS TO AVOID LONG PAGES ON THE THREAD

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[spoiler]Stages presentation[/spoiler]

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 09/08/2020, 15:13
by TourDeFranceGO
How do you post presentation of the stages? (I got deducted points last time as i didn't know how to do it)

Also for stages 1 and 2, are you able to vary from intermediate points (so for example you don't have to climb the Cote de Rimiez and don't have to have multiple laps?)

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 09/08/2020, 21:46
by jibvalverde
"Gran Depart should be kept the same way" But we can totally change the stage, exception to the city, right ?

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 10/08/2020, 0:44
by ellvey
emmea90 wrote:
09/08/2020, 11:51
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages
Does that mean we're not allowed to use this year's La Planche des Belles Filles TT? They used that climb as a MTF in 2019.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 10/08/2020, 11:34
by emmea90
ellvey wrote:
10/08/2020, 0:44
emmea90 wrote:
09/08/2020, 11:51
- You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages
Does that mean we're not allowed to use this year's La Planche des Belles Filles TT? They used that climb as a MTF in 2019.
You can do an ITT if the part was done as IRR and the other way around.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 11/08/2020, 0:25
by emilio.torre
maps/tours/view/15326 - This is my Tour de France 2020 route (6 stages for sprinters, 6 medium difficulty stages, 6 high difficulty stages, 3 individual time trials)

maps/viewtrack/358565 - Tour de France starts with a Individual Time Trial, 20km around Nice's coast and hills with Mont Boron and Cote d'Avenue Reine Victoria like ìntermediate climb, start and finish on Boulevard des Anglais

maps/viewtrack/358569 - The second stage is very tough, it starts and finishes on Nice, it across Col d'Eze and Cote d'Avenue Reine Victoria to ride twice, Col St.Roch, Col de Braus, Col de Turini and Col de Chateauneuf, a ride where climbers and GC's puncheur can be really fight

maps/viewtrack/358574 - Provence hills are the principal focus of stage number 3,from Cannes to Salernes, it across the Verdon Canyon, that stages is for breakaway far specialists.

maps/viewtrack/358579 - Finally the sprinters, from Manosque to Orange, not completely flat but on the final reserves a two laps on Orange's city circuit with the short climb of Montèe Spartacus.

maps/viewtrack/358585 - Another hilly day, from Pont du Gard to Florac with Col de l'Exil, Cote de Fabreges and Cote de Mas-Soubeyran on the final with descent arrive on Florac.

maps/viewtrack/358592 - Stage number six is very nervous, hilly but for resistance sprinters, from Florac to Saint-Affrique,it across Cote de Montmirat, Col de Coperlac and Puech-Alt, last climb summit is distanced 13km from Saint-Affrique arrive.

maps/viewtrack/358595 - Stage number seven is the classical transition stage from Albi to Tarascon-sur-Ariege, down the Pyrenees. Not very tough stage reserved to a sure sprint.

maps/viewtrack/358600 - The first Pyrenees's stage from Tarascon-sur-Ariege a la ville de la Madonne de Lourdes, with six climb to accross : Col de Port, Col de Portech, Col du Portet-d'Aspet Monument Casartelli, Col de Mentè,Col de Beyrede and Col de la Croix Blanche. that stage is dedicate to memory of Fabio Casartelli, on his 25th anniversary from his tragedy on Portet-d'Aspet.

maps/viewtrack/358601 - The last arrive on the Pyrenees, the last stage of first week finishes on Luz-Ardiden, but before across Col de Marie-Blanque, the terrible Col d'Aubisque and Col d'Espandelles, last time Tour de France arrived here was on 2011. A very tough stage for real climber

REST DAY

maps/viewtrack/358634 - The stage number 10 starts from L'-Ile-d'Oleron on the Atlantic Coast and arrive at Montbron, a very flat stages where the sprinters can be take off her explosivity.

maps/viewtrack/358637 - Another sprinters stage from Limoges to Saint-Amand-Montrond, the final circuit include a tough short climb where Julian Alaphilippe have a ride record e try to attack her to win the stage.

maps/viewtrack/358641 - The first hilly top finish stage, from Nevers to Vulcania Puy de Lemptegy, upper the Clermont-Ferrand town on the theme park of Vulcania, but before it across le Mur de Chevalard, le Cote de Charade on the old circuit of Clermont-Ferrand, Col des Goules and Col de la Nugère, the final is on a 4th category climb, similar to a final of Amstel Gold Race.

maps/viewtrack/358649 - Another breakaway far stage from Issoire to Le Chambon-Feugerolles, it across the climb of : Cote de Brenat, Cote de Faredonde,Col des Pradaux, Col des Limites, Cote de Gourgois with flat final at Le Chambon-Feugerolles.

maps/viewtrack/358651 - The first very hard time trial on Saint-Etienne hills with the arrive to Saint-Christo-en-Jarez, here GC's puncheur can be really fight with clock, the last hill climb is very tough and can be make a new redefined classification.

maps/viewtrack/358662 - The final stage of second week is very hard, from Chambery to Albertville, it across 4 climbs like : Col du Chat, Col de l'Epine. Col du Granier and Collet du Tamiè and descent final to Albertville

REST DAY

maps/viewtrack/358667 - The first stage on the Alps is very hard, from Annecy to La Rosiere, it across Col de l'Arpettaz, the Hors Categorie climb of Cormet de Roselend and the final climb of La Rosiere, last arrive here is two years ago when Tour and Dauphine arrived up here.

maps/viewtrack/358671 - From Bourg-Saint-Maurice to Les Deux Alpes for remember Marco Pantani on his 50th birth with the same arrive of 1998's stage, but before acrosses Col de la Madeleine, Col de Chaussy, Col de la Croix de Fer, L'Alpe d'Huez and Col de Sarenne.

maps/viewtrack/358675 - After the two alpines top finish, we arrive in descent from Grenoble to Bellegarde-sur-Valserine, it across that climbs like : Col de Porte, Col du Mont Tournier, Col du Clergeon, Col de la Croix de Famban, Col de Richemond and final descen to Bellegarde-sur-Valserine

maps/viewtrack/358790 - Another nervous stage from Bellegarde-sur-Valserine to Dijon, the final is for resistant sprinter but before across, Cote de Chatillon-en-Michaille, Col du Berthiand and on the final, the not hard climb of Cote de Gouville.

maps/viewtrack/358683 - A long individual time trial before Paris arrive, from Vagney to Gerardmer La Mauselaine, here the yellow jersey fighters can be really fight, the stage includes 4 tough climbs : Col du Haut du Tot, Col de Sapois, Col de la Pepiniere and the final ascent to La Mauselaine.

maps/viewtrack/370781 - Finally Paris, from Saint-Quentin-en-Yvelines town which host the Velodrome Nationale de France, the Sprinter World Championship on the Champs Elysees is been sured after 7 long laps on the famous Tour de France final circuit.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 11/08/2020, 20:32
by kanon16
"You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages"

Last year both Col du Galibier and Col de l'Iseran were in the Tour de France (of course they were "key points" of the race..)
So we cannot use these two climbs (for example) or can we use with a different final of the stages?

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 12/08/2020, 15:04
by mauro
Ecco il mio tracciato.
Here is my track.

maps/tours/view/15373

Alcune note
1) Nel disegnarlo mi sono ispirato alla regola del contest sul Giro d’Italia relativa ai siti UNESCO. Quindi, come nell’altro percorso, ho segnalato con la siglia IS i patrimoni dell’umanità ufficiali, con IS* le candidature e con la sigla WNBR i siti appartenenti alla “rete mondiale di riserve della biosfera” dell’UNESCO
2) La settimana centrale è interamente disegnata al nord, ma presenta due sole tappe per velocisti e alcune molto insidiose per i corridori di classifica
3) Il secondo giorno di riposo è in martedì (come al Tour 2019)
4) I lunghi trasferimenti senza giorno di riposo da Le Havre ad Amiens e da Vaison-la-Romaine a Parigi sono fattibili poiché già effettuati in passato al Tour con questa modalità

A few notes

1) In drawing it, I was inspired by the rule of the contest on the Giro d'Italia relating to UNESCO sites. So, as in the other path, I marked the official World Heritage Sites with the IS symbol, the candidacies with IS * and the sites belonging to the UNESCO "World Network of Biosphere Reserves" with the initials WNBR

2) The central week is entirely designed for the north, but has only two stages for sprinters and some very tricky for the ranking riders

3) The second rest day is on Tuesday (as in Tour 2019)

4) Long transfers without a rest day from Le Havre to Amiens and from Vaison-la-Romaine to Paris are feasible as they have already been carried out in the past on the Tour in this way

Spoiler!
1a tappa: Nice (IS*) (ITT – 10.3 Km)

Non si tratta del solito cronoprologo d’avvio, ma di una ITT difficile, caratterizzata dalla salita della Côte du Mont-Boron (2.8 Km al 6%) da superare nella prima metà gara. L’unico punto critico è il primo secco tornante della successiva discesa.

This is not the usual starting prologue, but a difficult ITT, characterized by the climb of the Côte du Mont-Boron (2.8 km at 6%) to be overcome in the first half of the race. The only critical point is the first sharp hairpin bend of the subsequent descent.

Siti UNESCO:

Nizza, la nuova città nata dal turismo, ovvero l'invenzione della Riviera (Nice, the new town born of tourism, or the invention of the Riviera) (CANDIDACY)

Spazio transfrontaliero Marittime-Mercantour (Le Alpi del mare), Marittime-Mercantour Transboundary Area (The Maritime Alps) (CANDIDACY)

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2a tappa: Nice – Nice (IS*) (103 Km)

Si corre interamente sulla Costa Azzurra, ma solo limitatissimi i tratti da percorrere sulla trafficata strada litoranea. La prima parte del tracciato si snoda sulle strade dell’immediato entroterra, poi si scende in riva al Mediterraneo per quindi tornare verso l’interno e affrontare le principali difficoltà altimetriche della tappa. La più impegnativa è la Côte d'Èze (non l’omonimo colle, dal quale si transita in partenza) da superare a 26 Km dal traguardo, a sua volta preceduto dal Mont-Boron affrontato nel prologo.

It runs entirely on the Cote d'Azur, but the stretches to be covered on the busy coastal road are only very limited. The first part of the route winds along the roads of the immediate hinterland, then descends to the shores of the Mediterranean to then return inland and face the main elevation difficulties of the stage. The most demanding is the Côte d'Èze (not the hill of the same name, from which one passes at the start) to be overcome at 26 km from the finish, in turn preceded by Mont-Boron faced in the prologue.

Siti UNESCO: si veda la prima tappa, see the first stage

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3a tappa: Cannes (IS*) – Arles (IS) (229 Km)

Si tratta delle prima delle cinque tappe destinate ai velocisti, totalmente pianeggiante negli ultimi 50 Km.

This is the first of the five stages for sprinters, totally flat in the last 50 km.

Siti UNESCO

Cannes : Boulevard de la Croisette e Îles de Lérins (CANDIDACY)

Monumenti romani e romanici di Arles; Arles, Roman and Romanesque Monuments

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4a tappa: Saint-Gilles (IS) - Saintes-Maries-de-la-Mer (WNBR) (TTT) (40 Km)

Per la cronometro a squadre ho scelto un itinerario totalmente pianeggiante ma spettacolare, perché si snode sulle strade della Camargue. In assenza di difficoltà altimetriche la principale insidia di gara potrebbe essere rappresentata dal forte vento che spesso spazza queste lande prive di rilievi orografici e che potrebbe ostacolare quelle squadre che scenderanno dalla rampa di lancio nel momento nel quale si alzerà il vento.

For the team time trial I chose a totally flat but spectacular itinerary, because it winds along the roads of the Camargue. In the absence of altimetric difficulties, the main pitfall of the race could be represented by the strong wind that often sweeps these lands without orographic reliefs and that could hinder those teams that will descend from the launching pad when the wind rises.

Siti UNESCO:
Saint-Gilles, chiesa abbazia di Saint-Gilles, inserita nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Strade francesi per Santiago di Compostela”; Saint-Gilles, Abbey of Saint-Gilles, included in the widespread heritage of the "Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France”

Camargue (WNBR)

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5a tappa: Marseillan-Plage – Castelnaudary (“Étape du Canal du Midi” IS) (171 Km)

La tappa, la seconda opportunità per i velocistik, è interamente dedicata al Canal du Midi, canale artificiale di 241 Km incluso nella lista dei patrimoni dell'umanità dell'UNESCO. Collega idealmente l’Oceano Atlantico con il Mediterraneo e viene superato ben 15 volte durante questa tappa (sull’altimetria sono indicati solo i primi 12 passaggi, gli ultimi tre – molto ravvicinati – avvengono nel corso del circuito finale)

The stage, the second chance for sprinters, is entirely at the Canal du Midi, an artificial canal 241 km long and included in the UNESCO World Heritage List. It ideally connects the Atlantic Ocean with the Mediterranean and is passed 15 times during this stage (only the first 12 passages are indicated on the altimetry, the last three - very close - take place during the final circuit)

Siti UNESCO:

Canal du Midi

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6a tappa: Toulouse (IS) - Mazamet (158.4 Km)

Alla vigilia delle tre tappe pirenaiche si corre una tappa di media montagna che già offrirà agli scalatori una chance per mettersi in mostra grazie alla presenza della salita al Pic de Nore a poco meno di 30 Km dall’arrivo, posto al termine della successiva discesa.

On the eve of the three stages of the Pyrenees, a mid-mountain stage is planned which will already offer mountaineers the opportunity to show off thanks to the presence of the ascent to the Pic de Nore just under 30 km from the finish, located at the end of the next descent.

Siti UNESCO

Canal du Midi (Toulouse)

Toulouse, Basilica di Saint-Sernin e Hôtel-Dieu Saint-Jacques, inseriti nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Strade francesi per Santiago di Compostela”; Toulouse, Basilica of Saint-Sernin and Hôtel-Dieu Saint-Jacques, included in the widespread heritage of the "Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France”

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7a tappa: Carcassonne - Font-Romeu (Pyrénées 2000) (193 Km)

Nonostante l’arrivo in salita e il fatto che si superino al traguardo I 2000 metri di quota, questa è la più facile delle tre tappe pirenaiche. L’interminabile salita che conduce al traguardo, spezzata da una lunga discesa dopo l’attraversamento della cittadella fortificata di Mont-Louis, non presenta mai pendenze serie e a creare principalmente la selezione, se ci sarà, sarà proprio la lunghezza dell’ascesa

Despite the uphill finish and the fact that you cross the 2,000m altitude at the finish, this is the easiest of the three Pyrenean stages. The endless climb that leads to the finish line, broken by a long descent after crossing the fortified citadel of Mont-Louis, never has serious slopes and the length of the ascent will mainly create the selection, if any

Siti UNESCO

Canal du Midi (Carcassonne)

Cittadella fortificata di Carcassonne, Historic Fortified City of Carcassonne

Villefranche-de-Conflent: mura, Forte Liberia e Cova Bastera, inseriti nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Fortificazioni di Vauban”; Villefranche-de-Conflent: city walls, Fort Libéria and Cova Bastera, included in the widespread heritage of theFortifications of Vauban”

Mont-Louis: cittadella fortificata e mura, inserite nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Fortificazioni di Vauban”; Mont-Louis: citadel and city walls, included in the widespread heritage of theFortifications of Vauban”

Ferrovia della Cerdagna, Cerdagne railway (CANDIDACY)

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8a tappa: Ax-les-Thermes - Piau-Engaly (227 Km)

Assieme a quello dell’Alpe d’Huez è l’unico vero tappone di questo Tour de France. In 227 Km si devono superare sei colli per un totale di quasi 62 Km di salite. L’ascesa dalle pendenze più elevate è la penultima, il Col de Val Louron, mentre la più lunga è quella che conduce al traguardo di Piau-Engaly, poco più di 15 Km al 5.4%

Together with that of Alpe d’Huez it is the only real "tappone" of this Tour de France. In 227 Km you have to overcome six hills for a total of almost 62 Km of climbs. The ascent from the highest slopes is the penultimate, the Col de Val Louron, while the longest is the one that leads to the Piau-Engaly finish line, just over 15 km at 5.4%

Siti UNESCO

Tutti e tre i siti toccati da questa tappa sono inseriti nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Strade francesi per Santiago di Compostela”; All three sites touched by this stage are included in the widespread heritage of the " Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France”

Saint-Lizier, cattedrale di Saint-Lizier e chiostri, cattedrale di Notre-Dame-de-la-Sède, palazzo episcopale, bastioni; Saint-Lizier Cathedral and cloister, Notre-Dame-de-la-Sède Cathedral, episcopal palace, remparts

Audressein, chiesa di Notre-Dame de Tramesaygues; church of Tramesaygues

Aragnouet, ospizio di Plan e Cappella di Notre-Dame- de-l'Assomption; hospice of the Plan and chapel Notre-Dame- de-l'Assomption

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9a tappa: Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges (IS) - Oloron-Sainte-Marie (IS) (254 Km)

L’ultima tappa pirenaica è la più lunga delle tre ed è l’unica a non presentare l’arrivo in salita. Il percorso ricorda quello della tappa di Laruns del Tour 2020, con la differenza che in questo caso non è previsto il Marie-Blanque e si deve scalare solo il Col de la Hourcère, inserito a 50 Km esatti dal traguardo.

The last Pyrenean stage is the longest of the three and is the only one not to have an uphill finish. The route resembles that of the Laruns stage of the 2020 Tour, with the difference that in this case the Marie-Blanque is not foreseen and only the Col de la Hourcère must be climbed, inserted exactly 50 km from the finish.

Siti UNESCO

Come nella tappa del giorno precedente, anche in questa si toccano tre siti inseriti nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Strade francesi per Santiago di Compostela”; as in the stage of the previous day, also in this one touches three sites included in the widespread heritage of the " Routes of Santiago de Compostela in France”

Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges, antica cattedrale di Notre-Dame, basilica paleocristiana, cappella di Saint-Julien; Saint-Bertrand-de-Comminges Cathedral, paleo-Christian basilica, chapel Saint-Julien

L'Hôpital-Saint-Blaise, chiesa di Saint-Blaise; St. Blaise’s church

Oloron-Sainte-Marie, chiesa di Sainte-Marie; St. Mary's Church

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10a tappa: Château de Chenonceau – Amboise (IS, ITT, Étape du Val de Loire) (41 Km)

Dopo il giorno di riposo, nell’affascinante scenario della Valle della Loira si snoda la seconda delle tre ITT. La prima parte di gara è la più complicamente perché per una quindicina di chilometri si serpeggia sulle basse colline che prospettano verso le rive del fiume Cher, affrontando una serie di quattro brevi salite e percorrendo strette stradine secondarie disegnate tra le campagne. Più filante è la fase centrale verso Amboise poi, dopo esser transitati nei pressi del castello di Clos Lucé, dove visse e morì Leonardo Da Vinci, riprendono i saliscendi nel finale di gara.

After the rest day, in the fascinating scenery of the Loire Valley the second of the three ITTs unfolds. The first part of the race is the most complicated because for about fifteen kilometers it winds on the low hills that look towards the banks of the Cher river, facing a series of four short climbs and along narrow secondary roads drawn between the countryside. The central phase towards Amboise is more streamlined then, after passing near the castle of Clos Lucé, where Leonardo Da Vinci lived and died, the ups and downs resume in the final part of the race.

Siti UNESCO

Valle della Loira, Loire Valley

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11a tappa: Le Mans - Juno Beach (Courseulles-sur-Mer) (IS*) (225 Km)

È la prima delle due tappe per velocisti inserite nell’insidiosa settimana centrale del Tour. Si attraversano le colline della Sartre prima di approdare sulle ventose rive della Manica

It is the first of the two stages for sprinters included in the insidious central week of the Tour. You cross the Sartre hills before landing on the windy shores of the English Channel

Siti UNESCO

Juno Beach (Courseulles-sur-Mer): le spiagge dello sbarco in Normandia, 1944; Allied landing beaches in Normandy, 1944 (CANDIDACY)

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12 tappa: Utah Beach (IS*) - Saint-Gatien-des-Bois (Aéroport de Deauville-Normandie) (192 Km)

È una specie di Liegi-Bastogne-Liegi in miniatura la dodicesima tappa del Tour. Dopo quasi 140 Km privi di difficoltà altimetriche, nel finale si devono affrontare una successione di sei brevi salite, con tratti di recupero tra un GPM e l’altro che si riducono man mano che ci si avvicina al traguardo. A rivestire il ruolo della Redoute del caso è il breve muro di Saint-Laurent, mezzo chilometro al 12.2% che si deve affrontare a 24 Km dall’arrivo. L’ultima salita, la Côte de Bonneville-sur-Touques, è l’unica a non prevedere una discesa: i 5.5 Km successivi allo scollinamento che conducono al traguardo sono totalmente pianeggianti.

The twelfth stage of the Tour is a kind of Liège-Bastogne-Liège in miniature. After almost 140 Km without altitude difficulties, in the final you have to face a succession of six short climbs, with recovery sections between one GPM and the other that they decrease as you get closer to the finish line. The short wall of Saint-Laurent plays the role of the Redoute of the case, half a kilometer at 12.2% that must be faced 24 km from the finish. The last climb, the Côte de Bonneville-sur-Touques, is the only one that does not foresee a descent: the 5.5 Km following the brow that lead to the finish are totally flat.

Siti UNESCO:

Le spiagge dello sbarco in Normandia, 1944; Allied landing beaches in Normandy, 1944 (CANDIDACY): Utah Beach, Omaha Beach, Gold Beach, Juno Beach, Sword Beach

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13a tappa: Amiens (IS) - Arenberg (IS) (147 Km)

In un Tour de France che visita I patrimoni francesi dell’umanità non poteva mancare una tappa sui settori di pavè della Parigi-Roubaix. Molte di quelle stradine si trovano infatti nell’area del bacino minerario del Nord-Pas de Calais, iscritto tra i patrimoni UNESCO, e parecchie miniere si trovavano proprio nella zona della Foresta dell’Arenberg, segnalata agli organizzatori della Roubaix dall’ex corridore Jean Stablinski, che prima di dedicarsi al ciclismo aveva lavorato come minatore in quelle zone. I tratti di pavè da superare sono dodici e in particolare, grazie ad un circuito finale di 13,5 Km da ripetere due volte, si deve transitare per due volte nella mitica “foresta” e per tre volte sul settore denominato “Pont Gibus” in onore di Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle.

In a Tour de France that visits the French World Heritage Sites, a stop on the cobblestone sectors of Paris-Roubaix could not be missed. Many of those streets are in fact located in the area of the Nord-Pas de Calais mining basin, registered among the UNESCO heritage, and several mines were located right in the area of the Arenberg Forest, reported to the organizers of Roubaix by the former racer Jean Stablinski, who before turning to cycling had worked as a miner in those areas. There are twelve stretches of cobblestone to overcome and in particular, thanks to a final circuit of 13.5 km to be repeated twice, you have to pass twice in the mythical "forest" and three times on the sector called "Pont Gibus" in honor of Gilbert Duclos-Lassalle.

Siti UNESCO:

Cattedrale di Amiens, Amiens Cathedral

Arras, torre campanaria del municipio, inserita nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Torri campanarie di Belgio e Francia”; Arras, Belfry of the City Hall, included in the widespread heritage of the " Belfries of Belgium and France

Bacino minerario del Nord-Pas de Calais, Nord-Pas de Calais Mining Basin

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14a tappa: Le Cateau-Cambrésis - Reims (IS)

Ventiquattrore dopo la tappa del pavè se ne disputa un’altra non meno insidiosa, pur non presentando settori da percorrere sulle pietre. L’oggetto della tappa sono le colline dello Champagne, iscritte tra i patrimoni dell’UNESCO e attraversate in più punti nel finale di una tappa che è la rielaborazione di quella terminata ad Épernay al Tour del 2019. Alle brevi ma ripide salite affrontate in quella tappa ho affiancato alcuni muri inediti, mentre quello di Mutigny deve essere ripetuto due volte. Ad aggiungere altre “bollicine” alla tappa dello Champagne è la presenza di 7 Km da percorrere sullo sterrato – suddivisi tra quattro settori, il primo dei quali in ripida salita – nel tratto conclusivo della tappa.

Twenty-four hours after the cobblestone stage, another no less treacherous stage is disputed, although there are no sectors to be covered on the stones. The object of the stage is the Champagne hills, registered among the UNESCO heritage and crossed in several points at the end of a stage which is the reworking of the one ended in Épernay at the 2019 Tour. To the short but steep climbs faced in that stage I added some new walls, while that of Mutigny has to be repeated twice. To add other "bubbles" to the Champagne stage is the presence of 7 km to be covered on the dirt road - divided into four sectors, the first of which is a steep climb - in the final stretch of the stage.

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Colline, case e cantine della Champagne, Champagne Hillsides, Houses and Cellars

Reims, cattedrale di Notre-Dame, Abbazia di Saint-Remi e Palazzo del Tau; Cathedral of Notre-Dame, Former Abbey of Saint-Remi, and Palace of Tau

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15a tappa: Reims (IS) - Lac de Madine (175 Km)

È domenica e a questo punto avrei voluto inserire una tappa di montagna sui Vosgi, che però sono troppo distanti per essere inseriti al termine di una tappa con partenza dalla zona dello Champagne. Così ho deciso di rimandare al martedì il secondo e ultimo giorno di riposo e di inserire a questo punto una frazione dedicata ai velocisti, la penultima prima della passerella finale parigina.

It is Sunday and at this point I would have liked to include a mountain stage in the Vosges, which are too far away to be included at the end of a stage departing from the Champagne area. So I decided to postpone the second and last rest day to Tuesday and at this point to insert a section dedicated to sprinters, the penultimate before the final Parisian catwalk.

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Reims, si veda la tappa precedente, see the previous stage

Memoriali della prima guerra mondiale (fronte Ovest), rappresentati in questa tappa dal passaggio dall’Ossario di Douaumont; World War One cemeteries and memorials (Western Front), represented in this stage by the passage from the Douaumont Ossuary (CANDIDACY)

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16a tappa: Nancy (IS) - Le Markstein (191 Km)

L’unica tappa prevista sui Vosgi è la seconda delle tre tappe di montagna a non presentare l’arrivo in salita. In pratica, però, è come se lo fosse perché gli 8 Km che separano la cima del Col du Platzerwasel, ascesa più impegnativa della tappa, dal traguardo di Le Markstein si snodano prevalentemente in quota, con tratti in lieve ascesa da superare dopo l’ultimo GPM e quindi una lieve planata poco prima del traguardo, che non consentirà molti margini di recupero a chi avrà perduto qualche minuto sul Platzerwasel

The only stage planned in the Vosges is the second of the three mountain stages not to have an uphill finish. In practice, however, it is as if it were because the 8 km that separate the summit of Col du Platzerwasel, the most challenging ascent of the stage, from the finish line of Le Markstein wind mainly at high altitude, with slightly uphill sections to be overcome after the last GPM and then a slight glide just before the finish line, which will not allow many recovery margins for those who have lost a few minutes on the Platzerwasel

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Nancy, Place Stanislas, Place de la Carrière e Place d'Alliance

Saint-Dié-des-Vosges, Fabbrica Claude-et-Duval, inserita nel patrimonio diffuso “L'opera architettonica di Le Corbusier, un contributo eccezionale al Movimento Moderno”; Usine Claude-et-Duval, included in the widespread heritage “The Architectural Work of Le Corbusier, an Outstanding Contribution to the Modern Movement”

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17a tappa HeritaTour: Annecy - Courchevel (IS*) (152 Km)

Il gran finale sulle Alpi del Tour è costituito da tre tappe d’alta montagna in mezzo alle quali si colloca la terza ed ultima ITT. Dopo l’ultimo giorno di riposo ci si rimette in marcia da Annecy con una tappa che ha in serbo la doppia scalata a Courchevel, la prima volta salendo fino al Col de la Loze e la seconda fermandosi sulla pista dell’altiporto, tradizionale luogo d’arrivo delle tappe del Tour, dove il 16 luglio del 2000 Pantani colse l’ultima vittoria della sua carriera.

The “big finish” of the Tour in the Alps consists of three high mountain stages in the middle of which is the third and last ITT. After the last day of rest, we set off again from Annecy with a stage that has in store the double climb in Courchevel, the first time climbing up to the Col de la Loze and the second stopping on the track of the Altiport, traditional place of arrival of the stages of the Tour, where on 16 July 2000 Pantani took the last victory of his career.

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Saint-Jorioz, Marais de l'Enfer e canneti di Saint-Jorioz, secteur des Mongets, appartenenti al patrimonio diffuso dei “Siti palafitticoli preistorici attorno alle Alpi”, Marais de l'Enfer e reedbeds of Saint-Jorioz, Mongets sector, belonging to the widespread heritage of the “Prehistoric Pile dwellings around the Alps”

Parc national de la Vanois. Vanois National Park (CANDIDACY)

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18a tappa: Bourg-Saint-Maurice - L'Alpe-d'Huez (215 Km)

Questo è il secondo ed ultimo vero tappone (anche se si deve ancora affrontare la tappa del Ventoux), 215 Km e tre “moloch” del Tour uno dietro l’altro, prima l’Iseran, poi il Galibier e infine l’arrivo sull’Alpe d’Huez

This is the second and last “tappone” (even if the Ventoux stage has yet to be tackled), 215 km and three "moloch" of the Tour one behind the other, first the Iseran, then the Galibier and finally the arrival on the Alpe d'Huez

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Parc national de la Vanois. Vanois National Park (CANDIDACY)

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19a tappa: Briançon (IS) (ITT – 37.7 Km)

Si snoda interamente ad alta quota questa ITT, da un minimo di 980 metri – raggiunto all’inizio della salita di Sainte-Marguerite – ai 1334 metri del Champ de Mars, il piazzale di Briançon dove è posto il traguardo. La prima metà del percorso è prevalentemente tracciata in discesa, poi si deve affrontare la citata salita di Sainte-Marguerite (3 Km al 6.9%), seguita da un tratto vallonato che termina ai piedi della ripida rampa finale della cittadella fortificata di Briançon.

This ITT winds entirely at high altitude, from a minimum of 980 meters - reached at the beginning of the Sainte-Marguerite climb - to 1334 meters of the Champ de Mars, the Briançon square where the finish line is set. The first half of the route is mainly traced downhill, then you have to face the aforementioned climb of Sainte-Marguerite (3 km at 6.9%), followed by a hilly section that ends at the foot of the steep final ramp of the fortified citadel of Briançon.

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Briançon, mura della città, Redoute des Salettes, Fort des Trois-Têtes, Fort du Randouillet, struttura di comunicazione Y e ponte Asfeld (inseriti nel patrimonio diffuso delle “Fortificazioni di Vauban”); Briançon, city walls, Redoute des Salettes, Fort des Trois-Têtes, Fort du Randouillet, communication structure Y and Asfeld Bridge (included in the widespread heritage of theFortifications of Vauban”)

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20a tappa: Tallarde – Vaison-la-Romaine (165 Km)

L’ultima occasione per ribaltare la classifica è offerta dalla penultima tappa, con l’arrivo fissato a Vaison-la-Romaine dopo esser scollinati 32 Km prima sulla mitica cima del Mont Ventoux

The last chance to overturn the ranking is offered by the penultimate stage, with the arrival set in Vaison-la-Romaine after having climbed 32 km earlier on the mythical summit of Mont Ventoux

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Mont Ventoux (WNBR)

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21a tappa: Parigi “Étape des rives de la Seine” (114 Km)

Nella città di Parigi sono presenti due siti UNESCO, uno è la Tour Saint-Jacques (non toccata dal percorso dell’ultima tappa), l’altro sono le due rive della Senna, delle quali ne sono protette un’area di 365 ettari. È nel settore protetto dall’UNESCO che si snoda il primo dei due circuiti, circa 12.5 Km da ripetere quattro volte che, percorrendo le due rive del fiume, sfiora monumenti celebri della capitale francese come il Musée d'Orsay (in corrispondenza del quale è previsto il “chilometro zero”), la Tour Eiffel, il Pont de Bir-Hakeim, il Louvre, l’Hôtel de Ville e la cattedrale di Notre-Dame. Abbandonato questo primo circuito ci si sposterà successivamente su quello più tradizionale degli Champs-Élysées, da ripetere 8 volte.

In the city of Paris there are two UNESCO sites, one is the Tour Saint-Jacques (not touched by the route of the last stage), the other is the two banks of the Seine, of which an area of 365 hectares is protected. The first of the two circuits runs in the UNESCO protected sector, about 12.5 km to be repeated four times which, along the two banks of the river, touches famous monuments of the French capital such as the Musée d'Orsay (at which it is expected “kilometer zero”), the Eiffel Tower, the Pont de Bir-Hakeim, the Louvre, the Hôtel de Ville and the Notre-Dame cathedral. After leaving this first circuit, we will then move on to the more traditional one of the Champs-Élysées, to be repeated 8 times.

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Parigi, rive della Senna; Paris, Banks of the Seine

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Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 12/08/2020, 15:12
by emilio.torre
kanon16 wrote:
11/08/2020, 20:32
"You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages"

Last year both Col du Galibier and Col de l'Iseran were in the Tour de France (of course they were "key points" of the race..)
So we cannot use these two climbs (for example) or can we use with a different final of the stages?
I'd make a little editing : I removed Iseran and Galibier and I inserted Col de la Madeleine, Col de Chaussy, Col de la Croix de Fer, L'Alpe d'Huez, Col de Sarenne with the final climb at Les Deux Alpes

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 12/08/2020, 17:14
by TourDeFranceGO
Hello everyone if you have already read this sorry for the inconvenience but I've changed my route ahead of the deadline as I wasn't satisfied and want to stray a bit from the real 2020 route more. And less in some ways :)

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 12/08/2020, 19:46
by emmea90
kanon16 wrote:
11/08/2020, 20:32
"You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages"

Last year both Col du Galibier and Col de l'Iseran were in the Tour de France (of course they were "key points" of the race..)
So we cannot use these two climbs (for example) or can we use with a different final of the stages?
You can use but not at key part. So iseran can be for example a climb in the first part of the race.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 13/08/2020, 10:13
by emilio.torre
emmea90 wrote:
12/08/2020, 19:46
kanon16 wrote:
11/08/2020, 20:32
"You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages"

Last year both Col du Galibier and Col de l'Iseran were in the Tour de France (of course they were "key points" of the race..)
So we cannot use these two climbs (for example) or can we use with a different final of the stages?
You can use but not at key part. So iseran can be for example a climb in the first part of the race.
Precedently I included Iseran from the other side and the 1998's Tour de France Les Deux Alpes stage final with Telegraphe and Galibier. After I read well rule card and I edit the route make a lengthment of 19km and changed ride.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 13/08/2020, 20:01
by emmea90
emilio.torre wrote:
13/08/2020, 10:13
emmea90 wrote:
12/08/2020, 19:46
kanon16 wrote:
11/08/2020, 20:32
"You cannot repeat key parts of Tour de France 2019 real stages"

Last year both Col du Galibier and Col de l'Iseran were in the Tour de France (of course they were "key points" of the race..)
So we cannot use these two climbs (for example) or can we use with a different final of the stages?
You can use but not at key part. So iseran can be for example a climb in the first part of the race.
Precedently I included Iseran from the other side and the 1998's Tour de France Les Deux Alpes stage final with Telegraphe and Galibier. After I read well rule card and I edit the route make a lengthment of 19km and changed ride.
The other side is ok.

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 17/08/2020, 0:47
by JAdmeal
Despite the rule of the route having to be 100% in France, can I pass through Monaco in stage 1?

Also, can we use key climbs of last Tour if we use them in reverse and the second-last climb, for example Tourmalet and a finish in Luz-Ardiden or Hautacam?

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 18/08/2020, 9:23
by emmea90
JAdmeal wrote:
17/08/2020, 0:47
Despite the rule of the route having to be 100% in France, can I pass through Monaco in stage 1?

Also, can we use key climbs of last Tour if we use them in reverse and the second-last climb, for example Tourmalet and a finish in Luz-Ardiden or Hautacam?
1) No

2) Yes

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 18/08/2020, 14:33
by SmokingPuppy841
Are we allowed to use Tignes as a stage finish, as it wasn't reached IRL?

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 18/08/2020, 17:28
by emmea90
SmokingPuppy841 wrote:
18/08/2020, 14:33
Are we allowed to use Tignes as a stage finish, as it wasn't reached IRL?
Yes

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 19/08/2020, 23:31
by YellowJersey
Tour de France 2020 Variant: maps/tours/view/15836
Flat Stages: 7
Hill Stages (Summit): 5 (1)
Mountain Stages (Summit): 7 (4)
Team Time Trials: 1
Individual Time Trials: 1
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Stage 1
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The opening stage starts and finishes in Nice, it's one for the sprinters however doesn't cancel the possibility of a breakaway success, it isn't a pure sprinter stage but should be for the fast men to get the first maillot jaune.

Stage 2
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Which will likely be lost then on this second day as it's a hard one. It isn't one though like in real life where I assume there will be an overall marking and no attacks. This stage is proper for attacks there are over 3000 meters of climbing and a lot of climbs, with the Madone there present near the end alongside a steep and unused side of the Col d'Èze before the descent to Nice.

Stage 3
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Stage 3 goes through Provence, it's one for the sprinters with possibilities of wind to be present, finishing in Marseille for an urban ending to the stage.

Stage 4
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Stage 4 is similar, there's another opportunity for the fast men to seize alongside the Rhone river where most of the stage will take place.

Stage 5
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Stage 5 is the first in the Massif Central, it's one for a breakaway, or puncheurs, it has quite a hard start including the climb to Montée de Saint-Jean de Roure which has 5Km at 10%. That start will lure climbers and puncheurs to the front, whilst the second half of the stage is much flatter and so it will make for a very open race.

Stage 6
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Stage 6 is a collective challenge, it's the race's sole team time trial and has 37Km of straight roads where the powerful teams can make profit and early damage.

Stage 7
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Stage 7 is another puncheur/breakaway suited day, it takes place in the Morvan park and there's a lot of little climbing in it, lots of rolling roads and places to attack which alongside it's 215Km of distance it makes it one for the classics riders.

Stage 8
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Stage 8 is another on for the classics riders but perhaps a bit different ones, it's not a very hilly stages but has a familiar finish in the gravel roads near Tours. It's a very traditional and rough day where GC battle and defence will for sure be the main point of the stage.

Stage 9
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Stage 9 is a transitional one, with the race start in the South there's a need to travel up north and this stage not only allows the sprinters to battle it out it also allows the race to keep a good structure without big transfers.

Stage 10
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Stage 10 is the biggest of the race, it goes through the roads of Limousin and also goes ahead to the ancient Puys of the Massif Central, where the Pas de Peyrol makes for a hard finish in Saint-Jacques-des-Blats after some rough climbing.

Stage 11
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Stage 11 is the last one in the Massif and it will be an important one for the overal. On the road to Mende there will be a lot of climbing including the Col du Pré de la Dame, there's a dificult approach to Mende where the race will finish atop the Col de la Croix Neuve.

Stage 12
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Stage 12 will make the transition from the Massif to the Pyrinees. The start in Rodez will be in altitude and the race will consequently go down to Toulouse.

Stage 13
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Stage 13 is the sole road stage in the Pyrinees and it will be the GC favourites' first chance to make real damage in the race. There are several climbing stages before but there's a brutal summit finish to make big differences. There's over 4400 meters of climbing with the Portet d'Aspet, the Menté, Peyresourde, Val Louron-Azet to set things up for a finish in Lac de Cap-de-Long high up in the Pyrinees.

Stage 14
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Stage 14 is the race's sole ITT and it's one of the most important stages of the race. There's 53Km of individual racing and some climbing, but a lot of ground to make damage within a loop around Foix.

Stage 15
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Stage 15 is one of the last opportunities for the sprinters and it goes through the Languedoc region. It's totally flat and goes through a lot of the main cities of the area before finishing in the cycling city of Nîmes.

Stage 16
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Stage 16 is a not-so-well welcomed return to Provence, where the riders will have to tackle it's "Géant". It's a rough stage with some climbing beforehand, but the summit to Mont Ventoux is the hardest of the race and is an introduction to what we will see in the Alps.

Stage 17
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As will this stage, already well within the Alps but not one where differences will be made. It's a day for a breakaway, it goes through Gap and Barcelonnette, also in Guillestre after going through the Col de Vars, before a finish in Briançon which should be fitting to the escapees, who will stay the night in the city for the start in the next day.

Stage 18
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The start in Briançon will be familiar as the riders will go over to Lautaret before tackling the Col du Galibier the highest point of the race. The start is hard but it's only a step in this the first of the final trebble of decisive stages in the Alps. After going through the Maurienne valley the riders will go up the Col de la Croix the Fer before a short descent that will lead to the summit finish in La Toussuire.

Stage 19
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Stage 19 is one for raiding, and a lot of destruction in any group. It's spearheaded by three climbs, all of them long and steep starting in the Col du Grand Cucheron and a transition to Chambéry and a passing in the Mont du Chat via it's hardest side, before going down and then tackling the other Jura giant the Col du Grand Colombier which will also be tackled in it's hardest side with some sections of above 20% halfway through the climb, before a fast and technical descent and a fast run-in to Culoz.

Stage 20
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And the final mountain stage the final showdown. This is an epic finish to an epic race, the start in Annecy will follow through into Culoz where the riders will tackle the mythical duo of the Romme/Colombière. This will break the race and will allow serious attacks to happen and the race to be turnt on it's head in the final day, with the Col des Aravis then making a transition in the middle of where it will then lead to, which is Saint-Gervais-les-Bain where the riders will have their final climb of the race in Le Bettex.

Stage 21
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The final one, you know it!

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 21/08/2020, 15:01
by benoît.guillot
"Quand le Tour de France passe, la France est au pas de sa porte ! "
When Tour de France is coming, France wait at her own doorstep


Tristan Bernard

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Fight, fight against the others, fight against the climb, fight against the wind, fight against the cobble, fight against your pain, after all, it's only other guys like you, it's only climb, it's only wind, it's only cobbles, it's only pain, it's only a jersey, but a yellow one.


maps/tours/view/15818

This tour was drawn not to be the hardest but in order to win it, riders will have to stay very constant in their effort.

A few stats :

- 21 stages on 23 days.
- 8 plain stages, 4 medium moutain stages, 7 high moutain stages, 2 time-trial.
- 3373 km included 89 km of time-trial
- 3 top finishes and 79 KOM sprints included 3 HC climb : Col de Turni, Col du Tourmalet and Col de la Madeleine


I hvae not succeed to put correct spoilers so the entire presentation of the tour will be made on my personnal topic following this link : post31625.html#p31625

Re: Contest #7 - Tour de France 2020 [Cat. 1]

Posted: 21/08/2020, 20:46
by ellvey
Can we use one of last year's finishing town as a starting one? Like Brioude?