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Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 25/10/2021, 14:10
by Will4563
In this topic you can vote for the German Tour, according to the following rules.

PLEASE READ ALL THE POST BEFORE VOTING

How to vote

1 - You have to judge the track according to the requirements: contests/non-official-contest-german-tour-t7438.html

2 - You have to write in a post your best FIVE routes, from worse to best, providing a brief motivation for each choice
FIFTH PLACE
(Motivation)

FOURTH PLACE
(Motivation)

THIRD PLACE
(Motivation)

SECOND PLACE
(Motivation)

FIRST PLACE
(Motivation)
How does it work?
- First choice got 6 points, second 4, third 3, fourth 2 and fifth 1 point.
- Presentation bonus grant you 3 points (we will add later with penalties who took the bonus)
- Ranking will be made according to points obtained
- In case of equality I will decide the winner
- YOU CAN'T VOTE FOR YOURSELF
- You can also comment other people's reviews regarding your or other one's routes
- YOU CAN'T CHANGE YOUR VOTE ONCE SUBMITTED

Who can vote?
- Every user that submitted a contest (full points vote)
- Every user in the La Flamme Rouge Staff (Emmea90, Pigna, Sagan99, Matthorse, Nasdon33, Linkinito, Bose12)
- Every other user (full points vote)

Penalties
- Every user that submitted a contest and doesn't submit a valid vote (with 5 choices and motivations) will get a 10 points penalty for his route.

Requisites for the +3 bonus
- Providing link of the tour in the post
- Providing viewable image of each stage with a description in the post

Deadline for vote phase is November 21, h 23.59

Routes:
Tim ze claimbeer: maps/tours/view/19503
Will4563: maps/tours/view/19495 +4 bonus
mauro: maps/tours/view/19515 +1 bonus
benoît.guillot: maps/tours/view/19500 +1 bonus
BETTO: maps/tours/view/19609 +1 bonus
Anderson: maps/tours/view/19704 +3 bonus
lukkier: maps/tours/view/19534 +3 bonus

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 25/10/2021, 16:32
by mauro
I beg your pardon, but (as also in the official contests) I don't have the time to examine all the courses and cast votes.

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 25/10/2021, 19:16
by Will4563
My votes:

5th place: lukkier
I like your route, there was not anything I didn't like, but they other routes was just a tiny bit better.

4th place: BETTO
It was hard to say who of you and lukkier their was best, but at last I decided you, because of your stage 19, there was really good.

3rd place: benoît.guillot
Your stages was good too, the only thing there don't give you a second place is the fact that you have a really long time trial at the second stage.

2nd place: Tim ze claimbeer
You had some of the best stages, espacially your gravel stage on stage 19, but I think your start is a little to flat.

1st place: Anderson
Masterful tour. Everything was their. I didn't hate anything and their was the right balance. Good job.

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 26/10/2021, 15:56
by Will4563
mauro wrote: 25/10/2021, 16:32 I beg your pardon, but (as also in the official contests) I don't have the time to examine all the courses and cast votes.
Sorry to hear. I had hoped that we could get as many votes as possible.

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 27/10/2021, 16:35
by BETTO
5th place - Will4563
In your tour I think that GC would be decided most in TT; I dont' like that stages 19 and 20 are flat.

4th place - Benoit.guillot
I love history too but I don't like the KZ idea, I'm sorry. Your HM stages are good; interesting stage 20 despite that 3rd week seems a little weak

3rd place - Tim ze Claimbeer
Your route is good and I think your stage 20 is the best in the contest. I couldn't rank you higher due to some critics: in stage 18 I would draw an other passage on the last climb, stage 19 I think is not draw quite well and in my opinion bonisprints are put with no sense in your tour. (There's also some track imperfections)

2d place - Lukkier
Spectacular route! Anyway I think is too hard to see a GT like this in real life, in 3rd week misses a stage where GCR can recover. Also, I think that this Tour had to finish in Berlin o Wien

1st place - Anderson
Very good and balanced. The only thing I dislike is that I would like Berlin as Gran Departure or even better the arrive of the Tour

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 21/11/2021, 18:52
by Tim ze claimbeer
Here is my voting:

Sorry for not providing the link, I completely bottled that :roll: Anyways…

5th place: benoit.guillot
Just like Betto above, I don’t really like the KZ idea, i think that the history is important, but a tour should celebrate the places it visits, and you should really not celebrate a KZ. With that said, I think your tour is a very solid one.
4th place: Betto
I love some of your circuit stages, but I don’t like the fact that the transition distance are very far between many stages. On top of that, the first part of your tour is too easy, with a super hard last week in contrast to that. Plus points for your last stage though.
3rd place: Lukkier
I like your tour, but it didn’t catch my eyes like some others did. I like your mountain stages, especially the one to Roßfeld, but then again, I dislike that the finish of the tour is in Bern.
2nd place: Will4563
I really like your start with the Brocken stage especially. The second week is a bit easy to me, whereas the start of the 3rd week is way to hard, compensating for some earlier stages. Overall, still a good tour.
1st place: Anderson
I think your tour is the most complete and I really love your mountain stages like stage 12 or 19 for instance, they are really Vuelta-like. Only thing I didn’t like is that the 20th stage is a flat one (even though it’s labeled as Hilly).

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 21/11/2021, 19:21
by Anderson
My voting:

5th place: benoît.guillot
Your Swiss stages are interesting, but I don't like the French stage finish and the last 4 stages (I think it was planned as a copy of this year's Vuelta, but stage 20 is not hard enough).

4th place: BETTO
You found some great finish locations (Linz, Zinar, Nürburgring), but I can't see the balance between many flat stages and some extremely hard ones (especially 15 and 19).

3rd place: Tim ze claimbeer
Overall your tour is lovely, but there are some bigger issues: I don't understand the Sylt and Grindelwald stages (both not feasible) and the transfers are long and sometimes confusing.

2nd place: Will4563
Your route follows a visible line which is great for organization (transfers etc.) and the stages are really well drawn. But the 1st week is a bit too hard for me and stages 19 and 20 are completely wasted.

1st place: Lukkier
The winner! You've drawn a great tour with some promising stages (12, 14, 18, 20). I could clearly see the race idea and you've also inserted touristical highlights in your route (Dresden, Linz, Bavarian and Swiss lakes etc.).

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 22/11/2021, 8:27
by Will4563
Voting is closed

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 22/11/2021, 8:38
by Will4563
Final ranking:
Anderson: 21 points (3x 1st place, 3 presentation bonus)
Will4563: 13 points (2x 2nd place, 1x 5th place, 4 presentation bonus)
Tim ze claimbeer: 10 points (1x 2nd place, 2x 3rd place, no presentation bonus)
lukkier: 7 points (1x 1st place, 1x 2nd place, 1x 3rd place, 1x 5th place, 3 presentation bonus, -10 voting penalty)
BETTO: 7 points (3x 4th place, 1 presentation bonus)
benoît.guillot: -2 points (1x 3rd place, 1x 4th place, 2x 5th place, 1 presentation bonus, -10 voting penalty)
mauro: -9 points (1 bonus point, -10 voting penalty)

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 22/11/2021, 8:44
by Will4563
Ranking only with voting:
Anderson: 18 points (3x 1st place)
lukkier: 14 points (1x 1st place, 1x 2nd place, 1x 3rd place, 1x 5th place)
Will4563: 9 points (2x 2nd place, 1x 5th place)
Tim ze claimbeer: 8 points (1x 2nd place, 2x 3rd place)
benoît.guillot: 7 points (1x 3rd place, 1x 4th place,2x 5th place)
BETTO: 6 points (3x 4th place)
mauro: 0 points

Re: Non-official Contest: German Tour Voting

Posted: 22/11/2021, 8:47
by Will4563
Gongratulations to Anderson for winning the first annual German Tour Contest. Let's see if you can win again next year.

And thanks to everybody there took time to make a route and vote. The contest couldn't have been this succes without you.