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Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics [Cat. 2]
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Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics [Cat. 2]
Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
The 2nd contest of the season will be about Benelux Cobbled Classics. You are called to re-invent the following classics
You have to deliver two routes, one for the Men's races and one for the Women's races with classics inserted in that order.
Deadline will be saturday march 21, 2020 h 23.59
The 2nd contest of the season will be about Benelux Cobbled Classics. You are called to re-invent the following classics
- Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
- Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
- Ronde Van Drenthe
- De Panne Classic
- E3 Harelbeke
- Gent-Wevelgem
- Dwaars Door Vlaanderen
- Ronde Van Vlaanderen
- General
- All classics must start and finish into different cities from the original ones. 2019 cities are the one for reference.
- You can change names of the classics that contains a city in the name, changing the city
- You can use cities in 'other' classics, example Ypres cannot be used in Gent-Wevelgem (as it's start) but can be used in Ronde Van Drenthe
- You are not asked to keep the same zone, but classics should be entirely be in Benelux
- There should be at least three finishes in Netherlands
- Classics should present the same or at least similar characteristics of the original ones
- Omloop Het Nieuwsblad
- Race is intended to be a lighter version of the Ronde. Should be won by people that usually places in top 20-25 of Ronde, not cutting them out. Should not be for pure sprinters (like Viviani). Distance not more than 210 Km.
- Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne
- Race should have a middle section with cobbled bergs for attacks, then a final circuit that put sprinters back in field, giving them 60-70% chances to win the race.
- Ronde Van Drenthe
- It's a sprinter race with some cobbled sections sprinters have less chances than in Kuurne and present no bergs.
- De Panne Classic
- Pure sprinter race.
- E3 Harelbeke
- Race more similar to a Ronde. Harder than Omloop but easier than Ronde.
- Gent-Wevelgem
- It's a race in which pure sprinters can have a 50-50% chance with attackers.
- Dwaars Door Vlaanderen
- It's a <200 Km race that present some climbs but only few cobbled so climbers like Valverde can make a top 10-15. Sprinters are definitely taken out of the field
- Ronde Van Vlaanderen
- Think there is nothing to explain here. It's THE monument. It's forbbidden to re-propose the old Ronde Finish with Muur and Bosberg
You have to deliver two routes, one for the Men's races and one for the Women's races with classics inserted in that order.
Deadline will be saturday march 21, 2020 h 23.59
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Should/can we present all the races in the same Tour for more visibility?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Yes.benoît.guillot wrote: ↑24/02/2020, 11:40 Should/can we present all the races in the same Tour for more visibility?
Edit: One tour for ME and one tour for WE
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Should our Kuurne necessarily have cobbled climbs or can we have bergs and cobbled sectors a part ? Only two cobbled bergs is KBK...
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Just to make sure, women’s and men’s race means we have to deliver 16 routes in total, right?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Like you want.jibvalverde wrote: ↑25/02/2020, 1:04 Should our Kuurne necessarily have cobbled climbs or can we have bergs and cobbled sectors a part ? Only two cobbled bergs is KBK...
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Yes, 2 tours of 8 routes each
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Is a final circuit in Kuurne-Bruxelles-Kuurne a must? Or is just a flat section to get to the finish enough?
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At least one circuit lap like 2020 year.
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
With Nieuwsblad and GP E3 little Ronde, should you use the same region for three race or could we choose differents regions (like Wallonie for one and Flandres for others) ?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
You can choose different regionsjibvalverde wrote: ↑29/02/2020, 19:04 With Nieuwsblad and GP E3 little Ronde, should you use the same region for three race or could we choose differents regions (like Wallonie for one and Flandres for others) ?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Can we start a race in the city in which the real race finishes, or vice versa? Or is it forbidden too?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
You cantaaramae_crack wrote: ↑01/03/2020, 14:10 Can we start a race in the city in which the real race finishes, or vice versa? Or is it forbidden too?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Hi everyone!
Here are my races for the contest i only did the mens races the WE would just be shorter but very similar.
maps/tours/view/13958
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Here are my races for the contest i only did the mens races the WE would just be shorter but very similar.
maps/tours/view/13958
Thanks
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
You have to do WE races, otherwise you are not admittable to voting phase. And "shorter but very similar" is not enoughlennert wrote: ↑05/03/2020, 18:50 Hi everyone!
Here are my races for the contest i only did the mens races the WE would just be shorter but very similar.
maps/tours/view/13958
Thanks
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Do all of the races have to start and finish in the Benelux? And if so can you cross the border for a short trip outside the Benelux during a race?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
I've completed men races but I'm not good enough to propose women's races as well. I regretfully forfeit for contest 2...
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
For every race is it necessary to propose two tracks, one male and one female?
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Really don't get why women races HAVE to be in therebenoît.guillot wrote: ↑09/03/2020, 9:26 I've completed men races but I'm not good enough to propose women's races as well. I regretfully forfeit for contest 2...
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Re: Contest #2 - Benelux Cobbled Classics
Equality in the sport is important y’all. The women’s calendar is way behind on the men’s and I think designing these races for also the women also gives people who only focus on men’s cycling a look into women’s cycling. I like this challenge and don’t think designing a women’s race for every men’s race is hard